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Mexican drug commandos expand ops in 6 U.S. states
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | June 21, 2005

Posted on 06/21/2005 12:41:10 PM PDT by robowombat

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To: backtothestreets

All the druggies are talking about on these threads are how unmanaged and dangerous alcohol is.
Then in the next breath, they say because we have this horrible failure and being illegal drugs to them are similar, that we should also release that horror into society is as well.

I disagree totally, illegal drugs stay illegal.


241 posted on 06/22/2005 4:37:43 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: G32
A lot of educated people use drugs. It's all poor judgement and character and disregard of the law as far as I am concerned.

Yes, exactly- we're in agreement. But keep in mind that what passes for education today is very limited- book smart, rather than reality smart. A person can be extremely intelligent- intellectually- yet be an emotional idiot. More than that, people have lost contact with their physical intelligence- the intelligence of their instinct.

I believe a sound and balanced individual is one who is in contact with and has developed their 'sensing/instinctive body mind', their 'feeling emotive mind' as well as their 'intellective/thinking mind'- I believe that the first two, when properly developed, should form a solid foundation upon which the 'intellective/thinking mind' can depend for undistorted thinking.

Unfortunately, Liberals (and by extension Democrats) confuse their emotive thinking with their intellective thinking, which is why their logic, programs and policies are so distorted in relation to reality. On the flip side, many Republicans tend to disregard the intellect of the emotion, which is why they fail to reach emotive thinkers, either in Senate, Congress, in the White House, or on the campaign trail.

Just a thought... :^)

242 posted on 06/22/2005 4:57:01 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Crap impersonating intellectual discourse is the final fruit of decadence (It's time the Left left!))
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To: A CA Guy
I'm not convinced they're all druggies. I think many are looking for a way to end a part of the madness surrounding the drug culture.

While drugs is the topic discussion, I'll tell you who I dislike more than the dealers and users. I have the lowest regard for government officials, elected, appointed or employed, that assist in the illegal drug trade. Since most of the drugs are originating from outside our country, I view any assistance given as an act of treason, and as such punishable by death. There is absolutely no possible way we can be having the level of problems we are encountering with the illegal drug trade without some assistance within our government.

I don't care if these individuals are low level bureaucrats, wear a uniform, wrap themselves in our flag, or once served 30 years in the military. Treason is treason, and death is the punishment for treason. With that said, as long as we do have our present drug policy, I'd apply the act of treason to anyone involved in the distribution of drugs in our nation that originated from outside our nation. And I'd want extremely swift justice.
243 posted on 06/22/2005 5:42:38 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets

The use end of the drug culture is where all madness is. Maybe you are suggesting users pay much heavier fines so they fear getting into it, I guess that would help.

Maybe a thousand dollar ticket to start?


244 posted on 06/22/2005 6:01:27 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: backtothestreets

True, they are not all druggies, some are pure anarchist trying to infect our society in any way possible.
I'm sure Communism USA gets involved now and then in the pro illegal drug politics as well.

We can read it all the time at DU.


245 posted on 06/22/2005 6:07:54 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: kms61; bayourod
Somebody 'splain to us again how the Drug War is a good thing.

Bayourod would have that answer. He's the only one I know of who has all the answers about why illegals are good for America. I think he said they help the economy, and besides, they're just doing the jobs that Americans don't want to do. We're just lazy white Christians who are strung out of drugs, you know. LOL!

246 posted on 06/22/2005 6:09:38 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (I don*t know what the future holds, but I know who holds the future. His name is Jesus Christ....)
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To: robowombat

Faced with the fallout on its southern frontier, the State Department has twice issued travel warnings for the Mexican border, where more than 30 U.S. citizens have been kidnapped.

Southern frontier? Looks like the State Dept needs to do a little more than issue travel warnings.


247 posted on 06/22/2005 6:10:44 PM PDT by Isabelle
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To: Dead Dog

Works for me.


248 posted on 06/22/2005 6:18:12 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: backtothestreets
Prohibition failed because it could not stop the use

Is there any reason to think use of other drugs can be stopped by government?

250 posted on 06/22/2005 8:20:25 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: rahbert
theres no guarantee of purity when some dopah manufactures a drug in the kitchen from some folk recipe.

Of course not, just as there was no guarantee of purity with Prohibition-era bathtub gin. The answer, then and now, is legalization and regulation.

251 posted on 06/22/2005 8:25:10 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: 1L
Tell that to the people in the ghettos that can't go outside or let their children out of their site for fear of violence.

Tell that to the people who are victims of robbery used to support a habit.

Both would be lessened if drugs were legal.

Tell that to victims of DUI.

DUI is no more an argument for a drug ban than it is for a car ban.

Tell that to the companies that pay higher health insurance premiums as well as deal with employee leave issues due to drug abuse. (You want to fire them? Fine with me

There you go ... problem solved.

Tell that to whoever has to keep paying for rehab that doesn't work

Nobody HAS to.

252 posted on 06/22/2005 8:30:23 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: conservativeconstitutionalist
OK, I'll help you buy a vowel in this perplexing issue for you.
The constitution allows the voters to also create their own laws or to have their representatives they voted in make laws. In this process, the enforcement of law regarding drugs came to be.

Reason is simply that drugs and terrorism are about the two worst things to happen in a civilization, and while you conjure up a cute debate theory regarding the constitution, people are dying directly from both.

You are welcome to talk about the constitution till you are blue in the face, but the people, not the constitution are what are most important as the bottom line and your theory over current law means nothing unless you can get the highest court in the land to agree with you.

Outside of that, people should give up the illegal drug lust, get straight and quit crying out for drugs on a conservative web site. Comes off as real bad IMO. You can find the illegal drug worshipers talking the constitution as well at DU regarding drugs. HINT HINT
253 posted on 06/22/2005 8:33:25 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: who knows what evil?

"The twin swords of political correctness and feminism "

We have become - WOMAN-HEARTED.


254 posted on 06/22/2005 8:35:04 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: A CA Guy
the people, not the constitution are what are most important as the bottom line

Typical liberal argument.

255 posted on 06/22/2005 8:43:19 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Black Tooth
I totally agree with you.

A political office was never intended to be a career appointment.

Elected officials are often faced with difficult decisions, decisions which which are unpopular but correct.

Career politicians are more concerned with making a decision which will keep them in office than one which will be in the best interests of the nation of whole.

Accordingly they pander to well-organized special interest groups which do not represent the wishes or best interests of the majority of Americans.

The unwillingness of the present administration or their political opponents to prevent America from becoming another Latin American, Spanish speaking nation is a perfect example.

Instead of being our servants, our elected officials have become our masters by playing on our weaknesses and working the system for their personal profit.

There are very few Ronald Reagans, George Washingtons, or Teddy Roosevelts today.
256 posted on 06/22/2005 8:43:28 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: A CA Guy
All the druggies are talking about on these threads are how unmanaged and dangerous alcohol is. Then in the next breath, they say because we have this horrible failure and being illegal drugs to them are similar, that we should also release that horror into society is as well.

I disagree totally, illegal drugs stay illegal.

And you present no argument as to why alcohol shouldn't also be illegal. Your intellectual cowardice is appalling.

257 posted on 06/22/2005 8:46:02 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
The representatives of the people created the constitution and it is a foundation, but not the entire body of all law needed for all time.
There is nothing wrong with newer laws here to deal with modern times.

I have no problem with drug law enforcement.
It is reasonable, meanwhile recreational use of illegal drugs is asinine and would be liberal/anarchy.
Certainly is irresponsible.
258 posted on 06/22/2005 8:47:34 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Know your rights

Start an alcohol thread and well discuss alcohol, but alcohol may NOT be used as a vehicle to allow other vices into society.


259 posted on 06/22/2005 8:48:44 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Because we have to deal with one problem in society with alcohol, we don't need more of them released into society with pot or other drugs.

By your logic, we should reduce problems further by banning alcohol. But banning alcohol was tried and failed, just as banning drugs is failing.

260 posted on 06/22/2005 8:50:44 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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