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Betrayal (Are Republicans bidding farewell to pro-life supporters?)
National Catholic Register ^ | June 12-18, 2005

Posted on 06/21/2005 1:35:35 PM PDT by cpforlife.org

Are Republicans bidding farewell to pro-life supporters?

If they are, then many Catholics will be bidding farewell to the Republican Party.

More Catholics voted for Republicans in the last election than ever before — and they did it even despite Catholic voters’ opposition to the Iraq war. Abortion was the biggest reason why.

A Gallup Poll conducted just before the November elections found that 19% of likely voters say the abortion issue directs which candidates they are willing to support. A big majority of those voters chose President Bush — so much so that Gallup said it gave the president a 7% advantage among all voters, and the presidency.

In the Democratic Party’s platform, conventions and party leadership, any opposition to abortion is strictly forbidden. Pro-lifers have largely given up on them, and hoped the Republican Party’s official pro-life stance would make it a more natural home for them.

But the GOP is starting to look less like home.

When Democrats controlled the Senate, President Clinton’s judicial appointees sailed through despite their out-of-the-mainstream support for abortion. With little objection from the GOP, America got Supreme Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg and the federal judges who routinely overturn the pro-life measures states manage to enact.

But with Republicans in charge, Democrats wouldn’t allow the most reliably pro-life appointees to even get a vote — and Republicans were too afraid to give them the vote the constitution guarantees them. Baltimore Cardinal William Keeler wrote to U.S. senators Jan. 6, urging them to resist pressure to impose a pro-abortion litmus test on federal judicial nominees. Cardinal Keeler, chairman of the bishops’ Committee on Pro-Life Activities, objected to the judiciary’s virtual “Catholics need not apply” policy. To no avail.

America’s pro-life majority elected a Republican president and Republican Senate. Will these people be able to successfully seat a pro-life Supreme Court justice for us in return? That remains to be seen. But the GOP doesn’t seem as willing to fight as hard for pro-lifers as pro-lifers fought for them.

Look at what happened in the House.

The Republican-controlled body voted to spend money from American taxpayers’ paychecks to pay for unethical research that isn’t promising enough to attract private investors. Embryonic stem-cell research has been hyped as cure-all miracle research. But a review of the facts reveals it for what it is: the creation of human beings for the sake of science experiments that have so far produced only tumors in patients.

Adult stem-cell research, on the other hand, has produced amazing treatments for medical conditions. But no one is asking for taxpayer money to spend on it. Pharmaceutical companies are more than happy to invest in it themselves, because it works.

Formerly pro-life members of Congress are using pro-abortion arguments to explain their betrayal. They say these children are unwanted anyway, or that they aren’t fully human — even after being visited on Capitol Hill by “unwanted” embryos slated for death who were adopted, allowed to grow up, and now walk, talk, play and, some day, will vote.

If pro-lifers are starting to feel out of place in the Republican Party, the feeling might grow in 2008.

The party’s dream candidates for President — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and California Governor Arnold Schwarzeneggar — are not pro-life.

Some party watchers say not to lose hope.

“I don’t think there is anything happening in the party per se on this issue. We are a pro-life party and will remain so,” Republican campaign strategist Bill Dal Col, who managed Steve Forbes’ 2000 presidential campaign, told the Washington Times.

The answer, says Steve Ertelt of Lifesite, is for pro-life advocates to work overtime to make sure the party knows what pro-lifers expect.

There is a long list of possible pro-life Republican presidential candidates, he said, including Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist; pro-life Senators Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, Sam Brownback of Kansas, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska; and former Virginia Governor George Allen.

A pro-abortion Republican can’t win the next presidential election. The religious supporters that the GOP counts on won’t vote for the opponent, certainly — they simply won’t vote at all.

As Americans, our House and Senate leaders should support pro-life positions because if they vote the wrong way, they’ll end human beings’ lives.

As politicians, they should support pro-life positions because, if they vote the wrong way, they’ll end their political careers.


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Of course the GOP knows that if Hillary runs in 08 then "most" "Republican" people will vote for ANYBODY (including pro-aborts like Condi or Rudy) that would run against her.
1 posted on 06/21/2005 1:35:36 PM PDT by cpforlife.org
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.


2 posted on 06/21/2005 1:36:24 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: cpforlife.org
Oh sheesh, what bunk, blame the Pubbies for democrat obstruction.

Do you guys come from the Barney Fife school of politics?

3 posted on 06/21/2005 1:38:26 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: cpforlife.org
In the Democratic Party’s platform, conventions and party leadership, any opposition to abortion is strictly forbidden.

And there is the main difference between the Democrat and Republican Parties . . . we don't "forbid" discussion. There is room for pro-life and pro-choice views within the Republican Party structure. As President Ronald Reagan always said, "If you agree with me 80% of the time, you are my friend."

4 posted on 06/21/2005 1:38:32 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: cpforlife.org

Could be happening but then this could be totally wrong. When Rudy was speaking at a Catholic University - there was supposed to be a huge pro-life protest against Rudy speaking - it turned out only 2 or 3 people protested and Rudy had a standing room only crowd inside cheering him on.


5 posted on 06/21/2005 1:39:57 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: cpforlife.org
The pro-life position of the GOP is the main reason for their success.

If Gore were a serious pro-lifer and pledged to overturn Roe, he'd be president.

6 posted on 06/21/2005 1:40:22 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Dane

Your comments are right on the mark. I just posted my two cents on another thread about the whiners against Republicans. This is getting disgusting on here with all the trashing of Republicans. Want to bet if Frist weilded an iron fist that he would still get trashed?

Beginning to think we have professional posters on this site agitating a lot in recent months.


7 posted on 06/21/2005 1:43:31 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: Dane
And are you a moral relativist?

Did Santorum HAVE to support Specter over Pro-Life Toomey?

Does the GOP White House and GOP controlled Congress HAVE to increase Title X funding for abortion EVERY year since Bush took office?

When will people wake up?

8 posted on 06/21/2005 1:44:02 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: areafiftyone
Could be happening but then this could be totally wrong. When Rudy was speaking at a Catholic University - there was supposed to be a huge pro-life protest against Rudy speaking - it turned out only 2 or 3 people protested and Rudy had a standing room only crowd inside cheering him on.

Too early for people to pay attention....Rudy doesn't have the nomination yet.....You can bet there would have been more there if it really looked like Rudy was going to be the nominee...wait until it get closer to actually picking a candidate....

9 posted on 06/21/2005 1:44:14 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Dane
Oh sheesh, what bunk, blame the Pubbies for democrat obstruction.

That would be a yes. Or do you also misunderstand the meaning of the word majority? The Pubbies control the executive branch and both houses of the legislative branch and still can't seem to press the pro-life agenda.

Pubbies fault? Yessir, buddy.

10 posted on 06/21/2005 1:45:02 PM PDT by NCSteve
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To: Tribune7
If Gore were a serious pro-lifer and pledged to overturn Roe, he'd be president.

I don't necessarily agree with that. If Gore had been a serious pro-lifer and pledged to overturn Roe . . . 1) He would have never received the Democrat nomination, and 2) Even if he did, many of his voters would have gone to Nader, allowing President Bush to win with a bigger margin.

The pro-life position of the GOP is the main reason for their success.

While the pro-life plank is definitely a huge factor for much of our success, I wouldn't call it the "main reason". I think the main reason is that we are the party that advocates individual responsibility.

11 posted on 06/21/2005 1:45:03 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: cpforlife.org
There is a long list of possible pro-life Republican presidential candidates, he said, including Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist; pro-life Senators Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, Sam Brownback of Kansas, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska; and former Virginia Governor George Allen.

George Allen isn't pro-life. They also left off McCain, who is pro-life.

12 posted on 06/21/2005 1:45:55 PM PDT by mbraynard (Mustache Rides - Five Cents!)
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To: Dane
Do you guys come from the Barney Fife school of politics?

Apparently the Republicans in Congress do.

13 posted on 06/21/2005 1:46:26 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Well I am going to support whomever the nominee is. I think this race is not going to be as easy as we think. The Dems are in fighting mode and will try to move back and forth to the middle.


14 posted on 06/21/2005 1:46:26 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: cpforlife.org

This sort of lumping all Republicans together angers me.

Who gets hurt by this? The good Republicans.

If the 46% of the House that is Democratic colludes with the 10% that is liberal-Republican, guess what? The Democrats hold sway. But then blame the Democrats and the liberal Republicans, not the Republican Party.

Oust Chafee! Oust Snowe! Oust Collins! Oust Specter! Oust McCain! Oust Voinovich! Heck, oust Santorum if he's not conservative enough for you. But this talk of "the Republicans" is foolish nonsense designed to destroy the party, and don't think it isn't.


15 posted on 06/21/2005 1:46:50 PM PDT by dangus
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To: cpforlife.org
Of coure they are.

We have Republican control of all the houses....and yet nothing is done.

George Bush is no Christian and the Republicans love the pro-life....pro abortion issue because it gives them power over the gullible Republicans who think they will do something about killing babies.

16 posted on 06/21/2005 1:47:03 PM PDT by Radioactive (I'm on the radio..so I'm radioactive)
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To: areafiftyone

>> Well I am going to support whomever the nominee is. <<

I will do everything I can imagine to defeat Atty Gen Gonzalez' nomination.


17 posted on 06/21/2005 1:47:25 PM PDT by dangus
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To: cpforlife.org

Guiliani won't get the nomination and his views on abortion are only part of the reason why. His bitter, public divorce and his 1994 endorsement of Mario Cuomo might actually hurt him more.


18 posted on 06/21/2005 1:48:42 PM PDT by JohnBDay
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To: areafiftyone

I agree completely......


19 posted on 06/21/2005 1:48:59 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Tribune7

Jerry Falwell once said something to the effect that the Christian Right needed to use their numbers to force the issue of abortion and then worry about "educating" people on the "why" after the fact. I think that's misguided.

The Catholic Church and all Christian churches that oppose abortion need to win in the "arena of ideas" as Rush calls it. We need to make our case powerfully and convince people that abortion, while legal, is not a moral option. Once we successfully do that, the practice of abortion will fade from existence.

I believe that, if the War Between the States hadn't occurred, slavery would have eventually disappeared in America because the anti-slavery side held the moral high ground. The economic arguments for slavery would have lost to the moral arguments. The same thing will happen with abortion if the churches stay with preaching the gospel and not try to ramrod a legislative agenda.


20 posted on 06/21/2005 1:51:07 PM PDT by gregwest
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To: cpforlife.org

I'll give up on politics as a viable solution to the problems facing the USA.


21 posted on 06/21/2005 1:51:39 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
He would have never received the Democrat nomination,

OK. I'll grant we must assume the Dems were not fanatical pro-deathers and gave him the nod :-)

I think the main reason is that we are the party that advocates individual responsibility.

There are obviously a lot of factors -- tax cuts, crime, the military. But a big-government Dem who was socially conservative -- like Truman or even Kennedy although he supported tax cuts -- would win, I think.

Actually, the more telling point is that GOP voters are voting on principles & ideals. We want to do what's right for the country, not necessarily what's convenient or best financially for us.

22 posted on 06/21/2005 1:52:09 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: cpforlife.org; PhiKapMom
What a bunch of bull!

The hysterical writer of this screed, (in a Catholic paper owned by the Legionnaires of Christ, an organization with problems of its own), is wringing his hands over possibilities!!

Bush is the most pro-life president this country has ever had, and has taken some difficult and heroic pro-life stances.

Yet, in this ridiculous article, his name is never mentioned.

23 posted on 06/21/2005 1:52:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: gregwest
The Catholic Church and all Christian churches that oppose abortion need to win in the "arena of ideas" as Rush calls it.

That's true. And we are.

24 posted on 06/21/2005 1:53:22 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Radioactive; All

EXACTLY!

And it bears repeating that the GOP White House and GOP controlled Congress have increased Title X funding for abortion EVERY year since Bush took office.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” And gullible Republicans!!


25 posted on 06/21/2005 1:53:29 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: cpforlife.org

Bump!


26 posted on 06/21/2005 1:54:52 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Radioactive
George Bush is no Christian

From the same poster that insists no plane flew into the Pentagon on 9/11.

27 posted on 06/21/2005 1:55:02 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: cpforlife.org

Five bad Republicans can scuttle every pro-life judge, no matter how many good Republicans are in support support.

If just 5 people in your church could set policy for the entire church, would you blame the pastor and church as a whole for the actions of those 5 people?


28 posted on 06/21/2005 1:55:21 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: johnb838
I'll give up on politics as a viable solution to the problems facing the USA.

That is one of the most sensible things I've ever seen written in regards to the abortion debate!

Truthfully, I am pro-life, but I am not a one-issue voter, nor is it even my number one issue when considering what candidate to support. However, I am very thankful that the one-issue pro-lifers are on the Republican side.

That being said, I've often wondered what would have happened if the pro-life movement had invested HALF of the time and money into advertising and education campaigns that they have into political efforts.

29 posted on 06/21/2005 1:57:19 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: cpforlife.org
I smelled the change a lot earlier than this; not just the gutless failure to vote on judges, but with the failure to remove Arlan Specter. Removing Specter would have set the tone; failure to do so also set a tone. Specter is pro-abortion and has not done what he said he would in order to keep his chair.

Basically, GWB has accomplished NADA (Spanish for zilch, he speaks illegal) for the country, only his foreign policy is excellent. If he does nothing that people voted him in for ASAP, he will loose the GOP majority in both houses. I see a BIG majority being disgusted and not voting.

BTW, it is not only Catholics, but also all other orthodox people who voted Republican, including Orthodox Jews.

30 posted on 06/21/2005 1:57:30 PM PDT by A.B.Normal
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To: Radioactive
George Bush is no Christian

How do you figure?

31 posted on 06/21/2005 1:57:57 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: sinkspur

Certain people's disagreement of an article only strengthens it.


32 posted on 06/21/2005 1:58:06 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: sinkspur

I noticed the same thing -- your first sentence described this article perfectly!


33 posted on 06/21/2005 1:58:48 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: cpforlife.org

Certain people's disagreement WITH an article only strengthens it.


34 posted on 06/21/2005 1:59:25 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: cpforlife.org

Anybody? Not if anybody's McVain. He's a kook, and I'd rather have a crook than a kook.


35 posted on 06/21/2005 1:59:58 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: cpforlife.org

"Did Santorum HAVE to support Specter over Pro-Life Toomey?"

Yes, because the First Commandment of Politics is "Thou Shalt Not Undercut Incumbents in Your Party's Caucus."


36 posted on 06/21/2005 2:01:13 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: cpforlife.org

"Certain people's disagreement of an article only strengthens it."

Certain people's agreement with an article proves that it's FOS.


37 posted on 06/21/2005 2:02:01 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: linkinpunk

Yes. The Pastor should have removed those 5 bad people from influence.


38 posted on 06/21/2005 2:02:02 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: cpforlife.org

What we need are Congressional GOP leaders with the testicular fortitude to stand up to the 'Rats and tell them that we are ready to go to any lengths to force up or down votes of judicial nominees in the Senate. People can try all they want to blame this on Bush, but the problem is that the GOP leadership in the Senate has been unwilling to go to the mat on this issue.


39 posted on 06/21/2005 2:02:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: cpforlife.org

"Yes. The Pastor should have removed those 5 bad people from influence."

How does President Bush do that with 5 bad Senators?


40 posted on 06/21/2005 2:02:43 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

FOS -- Full of sagacity?


41 posted on 06/21/2005 2:04:00 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: cpforlife.org

what do these pro-lifers expect is going to happen? we don't have the votes, we can't even get a UN ambassador appointed. even if Gary Bauer were elected president, he could not overturn Roe given the current political reality and makeup of the senate.


42 posted on 06/21/2005 2:07:33 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: cpforlife.org
Close but no cigar.
I would vote for Condoleezza Rice, but there is no way I would vote for Rudy Giuliani, and Arnold Schwarzeneggar is ineligible.
My guess is Giuliani and/or McCain will be the nominee. If so my vote goes to the Constitution party or Libertarian party candidate.
43 posted on 06/21/2005 2:10:12 PM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: cpforlife.org

Just remember, they are sometimes allies but they aren't really friends.


44 posted on 06/21/2005 2:11:16 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Tribune7
If Gore were a serious pro-lifer and pledged to overturn Roe, he'd be president.

Because the pro-lifers would vote for him. A socialist, and they would vote for him. An eco-nazi, and they would vote for him. An oxygen theiving waste of skin that would use the Constitution and Bill of Rights to wipe his butt, and they would vote for him.

That is exactly why the pro-lifers don't have any business calling themselves Republicans, and it is exactly why the Republican party cannot trust them. It is also why I have no respect for them, at all.

45 posted on 06/21/2005 2:13:46 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Radioactive

"George Bush is no Christian"




And who are you to make such declarations without knowing what's in the man's heart? Hell, the Left acts as if Bush is the first and only religious president we've ever had...who's leading us towards a theocratic state; while people like you disparage him for not being religious enough. Sometimes you just can't win.


46 posted on 06/21/2005 2:15:39 PM PDT by cwb
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To: cpforlife.org

People should know by now...the GOP always hurts the ones they claim to love....They always walk away from conservative principles and then want us to run to the polls to vote for them....It's getting a little worn....


47 posted on 06/21/2005 2:16:09 PM PDT by NATIVEDAUGHTER
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To: cpforlife.org

Of course in this case, the president cannot remove the senators.


48 posted on 06/21/2005 2:16:27 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Does that mean that there is room for "pro-slavery" and "pro-segregation" supporters in the GOP?...Face it, for conservatives the GOP is a failure...


49 posted on 06/21/2005 2:18:02 PM PDT by NATIVEDAUGHTER
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
He should have avoided the cancerous and moral relativistic "Thou Shalt Not Undercut Incumbents in Your Party's Caucus." and supported Toomey over Spector, for starters. Imagine what THAT would have done. It would have been HUGE. Would have changed, possible ended the dynamic of lip service.

He could have made abortion more of the issue from within his own ranks, instead, I'll say it yet again: The GOP White House and GOP controlled Congress increased Title X funding for abortion EVERY year since Bush took office.

He could of line item vetoed that! He has not. Not once.

I designed VOTE PRO-LIFE yard signs FOR BUSH. Over 30,000 were distributed between the 2000 and 2004 elections in heavily Pro-Life Louisiana.

I now think Bush is not as Pro-Life as we were told he was, and that the GOP owns Pro-Lifers like the DNC owns welfare recipients.

It's a sham bigger than I first imagined.
50 posted on 06/21/2005 2:18:11 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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