Posted on 06/21/2005 7:31:19 PM PDT by gusopol3
p.746:The history of the media towards Nixon and his administration, which became more and more intense in 1970-72, mingled with the attacks by the new youth culture toward authority of any kind, gave a misleading impression that Nixon was in trouble. It led the Democrats, in 1972, to permit themselves the indulgence of a candidate who was popular with the students and the liberal media, George McGovern of South Dakota. His platform was an immediate and unconditional withdrawal from Viet Nam and an increase in welfare spending. Nixon was delighted. He told his staff:"Here is a situation where the Eastern Establishment media finally has a candidate who almost totally shares their views." The "real ideological bent of the New York Times, Washington Post, Time, Newsweek and the three TV networks" was "on the side of amnesty, pot, abortion,confiscation of wealth (unless it is theirs), massive increases in welfare, unilateral disarmament, reduction in our defenses and surrender in Viet Nam." At last, he concluded, "the country will find out whether what the media has been standing for during these last five years really represents majority thinking."
A "big tent" conservative presents his credentials, whether he instituted wage and price controls, which he abandoned rather than extending or fine-tuning.
Nixon was a conservative. People who didn't live through those times don't realize how much giving some lip-service to the liberals was a matter of life and death. They were just as goofy as they are now, but they also featured anti-Vietnam homicidal nuts.
I agree, which is why I'm dismayed at the ready acceptance of Kennedy on the boards and general disparagement of Nixon.
JFK would be considered a conservative by today's standards.
And if that's not ironic, nothing is.
I hear ya.
sometimes a person's enemies define him better than anything else. Nixon's enemies were also Goldwater's, Reagan's and Bush's. The same people are friends of Kerry, McGovern and Kennedy.
The left has pretty much stayed the same only they have adopted a much nastier tone since they lost power.
I agree. Not a conservative on every issue mind you and a big-tent establishment Republican. Nixon was a pretty stuffy uptight guy who hated the wacky leftists. So did Spiro who was a former dem from Maryland. These guys had a blend of moderate and conservative elements to them.
Nixon put perhaps the 2 most liberal justices on the Supreme Court.
Anti-Communism was the big tent for conservatives. National Review got a whole lot less cohesive to me after the fall of the USSR.
If you ever have a chance to watch Barry Goldwater's 1964 convention speech you'll notice that Nixon in the background was less than thrilled.
I know, and Whizzer White was probably Kennedy's best appointment. Remember, Nixon had two(?) probably more conservative appointees blocked-- one was Carswell.
Goldwater's opening remark was to thank Nixon.
JFk was an NRA member, he wanted a strong defense- but yet avoided war, lowered taxes, supported american industry and jobs with tarriffs, prohibited trade with our enemies, was against crime esp the mafia, wanted a strong US dollar, kept the gold standard, was against federal deficits and submitted a balance federal budget,
No question that JFK is more conservative than any republican in or running for national office today.
assassinated Diem, leading to Viet Nam involvement by slow degrees; was so "conservative" that Goldwater was traveling the country gathering forces to challenge him, and almost decided not to run when he was replaced by Johnson ( were conservatives at the time confused that they needed an alternative to the great "conservative" in the White House?); was so against the Mafia that he shared a "girlfriend" with Sam Giancana, and with crime in general that he let his AG brother off without investigation of his involvement with Marilyn Monroe on the day that she died; ordered up IRS investigations on folks with loud outboard motors on their boats; told everybody in the Presidential debate he was going to defend Quemoy and Matsu, off the coast of Formosa, but then failed to intervene on an island 90 miles from Florida; talked tough defense, but McNamara was his legacy.
any analysis is incomplete without putting the liberal, monolithic media at the center of the web. Their ability to destroy, distort and censor was the prime factor of an awful lot that happened between 1960-80 and beyond.
any analysis is incomplete without putting the liberal, monolithic media at the center of the web. Their ability to destroy, distort and censor was the prime factor of an awful lot that happened between 1960-80 and beyond.
any reply is incomplete without posting it twice.
I agree, though I wanna start earlier. I don't know how much earlier, because I can't speak from personal experience. But, I know a little bit of the earlier history, so wanna include parts of it.
My family situation involved Dave Beck, tho it's complicated to explain how & why. Louis Nizer wrote about it in one of his books.
LOL
if you ever have time to outline the story, ping me. It sounds interesting. Thanks.
If your list is the best you can come up with, it makes Kennedy look pretty good, esp in these days when our current president has trillion dollar deficits, is buddies with communist china, and is involved in an endless war in the middle east - something Kennedy would never have done.
wage price controls, did not end the vietnam war(Eisenhower ended Korea in 6 months), took us off the gold standard, opened the door with communist china to where we are now dependent on the communist chinese for our manufactured goods and to lend us money, appointed liberals to the supreme court, etc.
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