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Clinton, McCain Considered Favorites for 2008
AP ^ | 6/22/05

Posted on 06/22/2005 1:12:27 AM PDT by Crackingham

THE BIGGER THEY ARE: Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republican John McCain are considered the front-runners for their parties' presidential nominations in 2008. "They're 800-pound gorillas," says one Democratic consultant. ONE RACE AT A TIME: Clinton won't even talk about the presidential race, saying she's focused on her 2006 re-election campaign in New York.

TWO MORE YEARS: McCain has said he wants to be president, but will wait a couple of years to decide whether to run. The maverick who gave Bush a run for his money in the 2000 primaries will turn 72 in 2008.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary2008; liars; maccainhillary2008; mccain2008; mediawhores

1 posted on 06/22/2005 1:12:27 AM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

McCain for some third party and Clinton for either the Democrat or Communist USA party.


2 posted on 06/22/2005 1:15:05 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Crackingham

MSM lies


does anyone know any GOP activists who will vote for McCain?

Even poll worshipping Dick Morris doesnt believe these polls


3 posted on 06/22/2005 1:15:57 AM PDT by atlanta67
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To: Crackingham

4 posted on 06/22/2005 1:27:34 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Crackingham
"They're 800-pound gorillas," says one Democratic consultant.

HA!

5 posted on 06/22/2005 1:34:15 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Crackingham
Clinton, McCain Considered Favorites for 2008

Yeah, on the same ticket, and in that order.

6 posted on 06/22/2005 1:35:35 AM PDT by RWR8189 (I Will Sit on My Hands in 2008 Instead of Voting for McCain)(No Money for the NRSC)
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To: Crackingham
"The maverick who gave Bush a run for his money..."and in the process exposed his leftie stripes to those who had been previously unaware of them...

After all, he did not win that primary, did he?

Another article and "poll" driven by wishful thinking on the part of the left.

7 posted on 06/22/2005 1:38:31 AM PDT by Allegra (But It's A Dry Heat...)
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To: Crackingham

This is bunk! No way the Republicans are going to nominate McCain, imho.


8 posted on 06/22/2005 1:44:54 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: atlanta67
Because of Cheney being the VP and not wanting to run himself, Republicans have a real problem right now with the media playing up liberal-moderate candidates McCain and Giuliani. There isn't really any other Republican heavyweight with high name recognition who is carrying the conservative banner.

The current president is still the face of the Republican party and will be through the primaries.

The 2008 GOP primary season is gonna be quite an interesting time. Romney vs. Allen vs. Frist vs. Newt vs. McCain vs. Giuliani vs. Tancredo vs. Owens vs. who else?

9 posted on 06/22/2005 1:46:03 AM PDT by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: Crackingham

Sorry to burst the bubble of all the McCainiacs out there, but tradesports.com has George Allen in the lead for the 'Ican nomination by 2 points.


10 posted on 06/22/2005 1:52:55 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: Crackingham

I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR MCCAIN!

And yes, I will simply find an alternative. If the GOP can't find a viable conservative they will not get my vote. If that means "President Hillary" so be it. Perhaps one day our nation will rise again from the ashes.

11 posted on 06/22/2005 1:59:33 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
George Allen in the lead for the 'Ican nomination by 2 points.

I like George Allen a lot. I hope he runs and tramples the hildebeast...

12 posted on 06/22/2005 2:00:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

I'd likely back Allen, but only if Cheney doesn't want the job.


13 posted on 06/22/2005 2:10:45 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: Crackingham
nice.
a rerun of the 2004
VS.
 
/casting vote for myself as a write-in
//just remembered - I live in washington state!
///change of plan will cast 15 votes for myself as a write-in
14 posted on 06/22/2005 2:32:05 AM PDT by tomakaze (Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
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To: tomakaze
LOL!
15 posted on 06/22/2005 2:34:32 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Crackingham

Is the MSM (in this case the AP) so out of touch with GOP reality?
Don't they get it?
The only way McCass is going to be elected president is that if he's Hillary's running mate


16 posted on 06/22/2005 3:08:42 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: atlanta67
does anyone know any GOP activists who will vote for McCain?

This is the 'Rats/MSM dream match-up. If McCain got the GOP nomination, they would make the general election campaign all about him; his unreliability, his corruption, his ill temper, and his shallowness. Hillary! would fly under the radar. The GOP base would be demoralized and detached. The 'Rat base would be stoked. The Witch would win in a walk.

No, I don't think McCain can win the nomination, but I expect the 'Rats to give every bit of help they can.

17 posted on 06/22/2005 3:30:07 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: A CA Guy

McCain is the Democrats' favorite Republican. No one else's.


18 posted on 06/22/2005 3:48:37 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: billclintonwillrotinhell

I think Dick Cheney should run for the good of the country.

I am very concerned that electing Hilary will cause everything we have achieved in the Middle East to unravel and the war on terrorism will be brought to a screeching halt. Anti-terrorism will consist of useless police action and treating terrorism as a crime. It is war, asynchronous as it may be, it is war and one that we will probably be fighting for the next 20 years.


19 posted on 06/22/2005 3:52:15 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: Crackingham
Two of the biggest liars in public life.

McC and mrs. grifter.

20 posted on 06/22/2005 4:10:46 AM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICAN WARS SET MEN FREE)
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To: Caipirabob

I see nothing that would convince me that McC would be any better for America than her heinous.


21 posted on 06/22/2005 4:12:29 AM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICAN WARS SET MEN FREE)
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To: Crackingham

RINO McSHAME is NOT an option. NEXT please.


22 posted on 06/22/2005 4:23:20 AM PDT by deadeyedawg
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To: atlanta67

I will never,never vote for McCain. I would vote for a third party candidate or stay home first. He make me sick.


23 posted on 06/22/2005 4:24:55 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: Crackingham

Is McCain running as a Democrat?


24 posted on 06/22/2005 4:27:34 AM PDT by anton
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To: Crackingham
Clinton, McCain Considered Favorites for 2008

Sounds like propaganda to me.

25 posted on 06/22/2005 4:28:06 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: atlanta67

The only way i would vote for McCain is if it was between him and Hillary. However in the primary i would sooner vote for my cat who passed away then for that loon


26 posted on 06/22/2005 4:35:40 AM PDT by DM1
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To: Crackingham

Favorites of the Media.


27 posted on 06/22/2005 4:36:55 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Crackingham

The Republicans are no more likely to nominate a non-Conservative than the Democrats are to nominate a non-Liberal.


28 posted on 06/22/2005 4:45:04 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Soul Seeker
Considered Favorites for 2008?

Bingo! Favorites of the media given that there is not one credible poll showing McCain leading any credible candidate on the Republican side.

29 posted on 06/22/2005 4:47:39 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: rawhide
This is bunk! No way the Republicans are going to nominate McCain, imho.

Republican? I thought it they were both on the same ticket....Independent.

30 posted on 06/22/2005 4:47:57 AM PDT by Fawn (http://tva.canoe.com/emissions/salutbonjourwe/salutptcom/downloads/dontworry.htm)
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To: billclintonwillrotinhell

The ticket will be Allen / Rice.


31 posted on 06/22/2005 4:56:40 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: A CA Guy

I donated a considerable sum to President Bush's reelection. I would not give a DIME to John McCain!!!!


32 posted on 06/22/2005 4:57:40 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: Crackingham

McCain is political toast. He broke the cardinal rule of not pissing off the base. Conservatives are the activists of the party, and he has sealed his fate with the gaggle of 14. He just couldn't help himself even though he had been rehabilitating himself for at least a year with conservatives. I wonder when he will realize his fatal political error?


33 posted on 06/22/2005 4:59:03 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: atlanta67

For your own safety, always remember: Never get in between John McCain and a TV camera.


34 posted on 06/22/2005 5:05:50 AM PDT by kjo
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To: Crackingham
This from Polipundit:

Out to Lunch


From the AP and {who else?} Ron Fournier:

“Clinton, McCain ‘Gorillas’ of 2008 Race.”

McCain, huh?

Okaaaay, then.

Me thinks Fournier is projecting.

* * *

Roughly 18 months ago our trusty “Fourth Estate” was predicting that Howard Dean would be the runaway Democrat nominee, that an “anti-incumbent sentiment” was sweeping the nation (not a single incumbent GOP Senator lost his or her re-election bid), and that President Bush was in deep trouble. They also shouted that Gray Davis would beat the Recall, and the Democrats were poised to gain net House and net Senate seats back in 2002. Heck, if we go back a bit further, they shouted that Clinton was heading for a Reagan-esque landslide over Dole, and the Democrats would re-take both Chambers of Congress that year. They also screamed at us that the Democrats were poised to re-take Congress in 1998 (they went nowhere in the Senate, and picked up only a few House seats).

So, ergo, when you’re in doubt, listen to what the liberal media says.

Then bet against that outcome.
35 posted on 06/22/2005 5:56:52 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Crackingham

Well, I'm sure the democrats are going to have every indian on the reservation register as republican as well as every illegal alien they can find, in order to try to get McCain through the primary in his own state, but I don't think it'll work. I don't know anyone who will support this guy for president.


36 posted on 06/22/2005 6:00:17 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Crackingham
McCain is an 800-pound gorilla? About 750 pounds of that is an ego that gets stroked regularly by media reports like this.
37 posted on 06/22/2005 7:24:42 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: atlanta67
Insight & truth seldom find their way into the MSM.

It has become Demspeak... Democrat talking-points enhanced with a glib, progressive banter. It's all part of the 'hard-selling' of socialism.

38 posted on 06/22/2005 7:34:50 AM PDT by johnny7 (How often does a '47 Rodham require servicing?)
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To: Crackingham
McCain's status as the "darling" of the Left Wing media "talking heads," such as Chris Matthews, will keep him in the MSM headlines as their preference, but, thankfully, they will not decide the matter. America needs strong, uncompromising leadership in the philosophical struggle between tyranny and liberty. McCain may be pro-military, but that is not enough. This is a battle for hearts and minds.

FoxNews has, this hour, run his acceptance and commendation for Durbin's overdue "apology" and McCain's desire to "put this behind us." McCain, of all people, should know the harm Durbin's remarks have done to America's cause in certain parts of the world. He should have pointed out that the damage was done as soon as Durbin made front-page news abroad, and that American soldiers will suffer because of his deliberately misleading characterization of this Administration's policies. His retraction will not be noticed among our enemies.

Even if we agree that Durbin's intent was not to damage our troops, but to damage the President for political reasons, he and others must realize that "ideas have consequences," and his ideas have fueled anti-American sentiment in a dangerous world.

Like toothpaste squeezed from a tube, Durbin, with one "tearful" statement, CANNOT put his accusations and analogies back in "the tube." They are out there to be quoted by his country's and his grandchildren's enemies to foment anti-American sentiment among individuals whose philosophy of hate was responsible for aiming an airplane at DURBIN'S OWN WORKPLACE, the Capitol.

McCain, who experienced REAL abuse by captors and knows first-hand of the enemy's misuse of the political propaganda of the Far Left in America, is not exhibiting the strong qualities essential for being America's leader in the war of ideas that must be won for the sake of posterity. The candidate for 2008 should be someone who understands, can articulate, and is dedicated to, the ideas of liberty underlying the claims of the Declaration of Independence:
-- that it is the Creator from whom our lives, liberty, and law are derived, and that government is merely the people's structure for protecting those things.
That philosophy, with all that it implies, resulted in the structuring of a government (a constitution) for a free people, one that would protect life, liberty, and property.

In the words of Jefferson, the author of that document:

"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."- No equivocating here! This interpretation is radically different from one that teaches that there is no "higher power," or, worse, that such a "power" exists and entitles them to deny life and liberty to other individuals.

39 posted on 06/22/2005 7:38:21 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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Correction....

That last phrase should read: "to other innocent individuals."

40 posted on 06/22/2005 7:52:09 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Crackingham

Media favorites for sure...


41 posted on 06/22/2005 8:16:03 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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To: Crackingham

which beach you votin' 4?


42 posted on 06/22/2005 8:18:20 AM PDT by ken21
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To: Crackingham

What a choice! Open borders McCain or socialist Hillary. Switch to a third party now before it is to late. Eventually you will.


43 posted on 06/22/2005 8:21:20 AM PDT by doc
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To: Crackingham

McCain has a snowball's chance in hell of getting nominated on the Republican ticket and no chance in hell of getting elected as a Republican.

His track record as a liberal, his efforts to undermine the Administration's appointment of conservative federal judges, his entire dossier of activities after the Viet Nam War where he admittedly served with apparent distinction, disqualify him from ever running as a Republican on the Presidential ticket.

On the contrary, his most recent antics merit an effort by mainstream Republicans nationwide to contribute towards his defeat in the primaries in Arizona, or if necessary, his defeat by a Democrat should he be re-nomiated there.

These news releases are wishful thinking on the part of the liberal media elites. They hope Americans will be limited to a choice of Liberal Brand "A" and Liberal Brand "B" at the polls in 2008.

I hope the Republican rank and file are too smart to fall for this transparent duplicity.


44 posted on 06/22/2005 8:26:13 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

I agree with you. There's no way McCain gets the GOP nomination.


45 posted on 06/22/2005 8:37:47 AM PDT by Looper
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To: Crackingham

At this point in the proceedings, I believe John "I love TV Cameras and microphones as much as Bill Clinton did" McCain would be as horrible a POTUS as Hellary Clinton would be. Since I started watching less TV, I don't miss his sorry and endlessly apologetic RINO mug at all. Can anyone imagine the 'leftist' nominees he would send up for a vote for any position anywhere???


46 posted on 06/22/2005 9:05:05 AM PDT by Pagey (Whether Hillary Clintons' attacks on America are a success or a failure depends upon YOU TOO!)
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To: Crackingham
The maverick who gave Bush a run for his money in the 2000 primaries will turn 72 in 2008.

What did he win 3 states and one of those was all Dems?? Hard to win primaries when you have a need to disenfranchise the Base!

Pray for W and Our Troops

47 posted on 06/22/2005 9:08:06 AM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: McGavin999

Granted.

A bulk of his support in 2000 came from Democrats crossing over. They'll up the ante.

Problem (for McCain) is that a strong ABM movement grows every day that man opens his mouth. We may have the highest turnout for a Republican primary ever held--to foil the faux Republicans trying to tilt it to McCain.


48 posted on 06/22/2005 5:28:12 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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