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China, Israel discuss expanding defense ties
Jerusalem Post ^ | 06/22/2005 | Nina Gilbert

Posted on 06/22/2005 5:19:10 AM PDT by thierrya

Jun. 22, 2005 0:50 | Updated Jun. 22, 2005 3:01

China, Israel discuss expanding defense ties

By NINA GILBERT

Expansion of defense ties with Israel was on the agenda during talks with his Israeli counterparts this week, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing said Tuesday.

Li, who spoke at the start of a meeting with the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, did not go into detail about the current dispute between Israel and the US over the Israel upgrade of Chinese Harpy drones.

He said that during his visit he had held talks on expanding ties in the fields of "trade, army, culture, education and tourism."

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom apologized to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice earlier this week over the deal, and expressed hope that the crisis would be quickly resolved.

Defense Minister Director-General Amos Yaron is expected to be sacked as part of the deal to resolve the crisis with the US.

Li was asked by Labor MK Danny Yatom about US-Chinese relations and how the ties were affecting Israel's ability to sell arms to China. Li responded that ties between the US and China were improving, and that the main problem in the ties was Taiwan. He said China also opposed the sale of US arms to Taiwan that could pose a threat to it, according to Yatom, who heads the Israel-China parliamentary friendship association.

Li also told Israel to prepare for an imminent influx of Chinese tourists as an outgrowth of deepening ties.

"I can let you know with some certainty that thousands of Chinese tourists will visit Jerusalem and other parts of the country. You are such an attraction. I have already advised enterprises of this country to prepare more hotel rooms for the upcoming Chinese tourism," he said.

Li also told the MKs that he was moved by his visit to Yad Vashem, saying it made him feel a bond between the Jewish people and the Chinese. He said 20 million Chinese were "slaughtered by the Japanese aggressors" during the same period of World War II.

"We should never forget history, instead we should turn it into united efforts to maintain world peace," he said.

Committee chairman Yuval Steinitz said the relations with China were "extremely" important for Israel, referring to China as the "giant" and Israel as the "dwarf."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinkinisraelsarmor; israel; whoneedsenemies; withallieslikeisrael
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1 posted on 06/22/2005 5:19:11 AM PDT by thierrya
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To: thierrya

WTF. He's laying it on pretty thick.

"I can let you know with some certainty that thousands of Chinese tourists will visit Jerusalem and other parts of the country. You are such an attraction. I have already advised enterprises of this country to prepare more hotel rooms for the upcoming Chinese tourism," he said.


2 posted on 06/22/2005 5:29:02 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: thierrya
I know Israel has been in a very tenuous position since its creation. That must be a tough way to live. However, with US support they would have never come into existence nor would they continue to survive. During the cold war and the years of MAD we risked our own destruction by standing up for them on occasion.

Sometimes it seems as our relationship with Israel is a one-way street, all give on our part. Ther e was the surprising, to me anyway, Pollard spy case and now they are cozying up to China. I hope there is more there than meets the eye.
3 posted on 06/22/2005 5:32:47 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Yea, I hope there is too. It seems like we complicate everything we try to do in the MidEast and Europe by backing the Israelis but they don't do much in return.


4 posted on 06/22/2005 5:37:06 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

To be fair, given their long history and the persecution they've undergone it isn't surprising that they are unwilling to rely on anyone save themselves. If I was Israel, I would make sure I had as many military sources and political/economic avenues open to me as possible...

That said, I think Pollard should have swung as soon as he was found guilty. Going softly on spies from friendly nations only encourages such spying.


5 posted on 06/22/2005 5:41:52 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

"However, with US support they would have never come into existence nor would they continue to survive."
Freudian slip, right?
Maybe you should first consider stop footing the Chinese defence bill by buying $300 bln-worth of merchendise from them, and then, maybe, consider stopping selling weapons to muslims that eventually will kill the Americans. Ah, whatever.


6 posted on 06/22/2005 5:53:02 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: thierrya
Committee chairman Yuval Steinitz said the relations with China were "extremely" important for Israel, referring to China as the "giant" and Israel as the "dwarf."

China wasn't a giant until we started pumping money into their moribund economy. Now that they are becoming wealthy, they are becoming far more influential -- and the last thing that we could possibly want is for a large totalitarian state to become more influential.

I have to admit that I am surprised at Israel's engagement with China, though. I think that speaks volumes, as does Argentina's and Indonesia's.

7 posted on 06/22/2005 6:01:21 AM PDT by snowsislander
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Israel recently sold China its drone aircraft under great "protest" from the U.S.

I am a strong supporter of Israel but that support must be a two-way street.

We need to say to Israel - will it be the U.S. or will it be China, because from a U.S. point of view it cannot be both.


8 posted on 06/22/2005 6:15:27 AM PDT by Wuli
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"will it be the U.S. or will it be China, because from a U.S. point of view it cannot be both"
Yes, it can. See my post above.


9 posted on 06/22/2005 6:30:42 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: Mi-kha-el

Your post is irrelevant because it assumes that the US will allow this double dealing to go on. The U.S should force Israel to choose and then let it live with the consequences. Also, your comment about arming islamofascists is pretty amusing considering Israel is doing everything in their power to arm over a billion communists...


10 posted on 06/22/2005 6:36:16 AM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: Wuli
Israel recently sold China its drone aircraft under great "protest" from the U.S.

Analyst worries over China's use of Israeli drone
Israeli-made drone aircraft at the heart of a fierce political row between Israel and the US are likely to be a key element of any Chinese invasion of Taiwan, a Taiwanese military analyst said yesterday.
11 posted on 06/22/2005 6:36:53 AM PDT by thierrya
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US discusses cutting Israel off?


12 posted on 06/22/2005 6:38:51 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Mi-kha-el

Shhhh! You are supposed to be an "innocent bystander" during this bit of choreography and delightful pretense.
Please refrain from bolting onto the stage and mouthing truthful sayings.


13 posted on 06/22/2005 6:39:44 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: thierrya

Israel's strategy has always been to be close allies with a superpower. This looks like a warning shot across our bow. In which case, they are making a grave error.


14 posted on 06/22/2005 6:39:49 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: CBart95

ADD: Unless of course you are the 'delightful stooge' in all of this .


15 posted on 06/22/2005 6:42:45 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: Mi-kha-el
Good point.

It is all about money...

Why should the US twist Israels arm and force them to give up land to the PALS (Those same PALS that danced on 911).

Why does the US sell high tech arms to Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries...arms that one day WILL (not might be) be used against Israel.... and maybe used against the US...

But then again, why should Israel sell high tech to China...hight tech that will be used against Israel and US through surrogates...

It is all about who can sell more....
16 posted on 06/22/2005 6:42:45 AM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Thank you America)
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To: Mi-kha-el

ADD: The Harlequin suit does look particulaly natty ,though.


17 posted on 06/22/2005 6:48:03 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: Mi-kha-el

Now that the US has pumped into China billions of dollars expect more and more countries to cozy up to China. That would include Isreal, India and Australia.....and so on.


18 posted on 06/22/2005 6:51:54 AM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Mi-kha-el

You're saying it can be both? That Israel should not face strong U.S. reactions for its military hardware trade with China? Or that that trade does not matter?

What does your "Yes It can" mean?


19 posted on 06/22/2005 7:02:32 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

It means that you are buying a lot of stuff from China thus supporting its degense and space programs. And these moneys may translate into lost American lives if China attacks Taiwan, since America has a mutual defence treaty with Taiwan. So you see, it's both America and China for you.


20 posted on 06/22/2005 7:10:31 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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