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'Indians are bastards anyway' - Kissinger (1971)
India-Defence ^

Posted on 06/22/2005 1:17:38 PM PDT by Srirangan

HUA HIN, Thailand - Indians are "a slippery, treacherous people", said president Richard Nixon. "The Indians are bastards anyway. They are the most aggressive goddamn people around," echoed his assistant for national security affairs, Henry Kissinger. The setting: a White House meeting on July 16, 1971, during the run-up to the India-Pakistan war which ultimately led to the birth of Bangladesh, erstwhile East Pakistan.

The US State Department recently declassified some of the Nixon White House tapes and secret documents that bring to light the way in which the Nixon administration went about the Bangladesh saga, reflecting the potential of mindsets and personal equations taking precedence over ground realities in White House decisionmaking.

In 1971, some 3 million people are estimated to have been killed in the genocide unleashed by Pakistan's military government on East Pakistan, leading to a rush of refugees into India, drawing India into a swift and decisive war that eventually forced Pakistan's hand. But all along, the Nixon administration sided with the military establishment of Pakistan over democratic India because of Nixon's "special relationship" with Pakistan's handsome military dictator, General Yahya Khan, and his uncontrolled revulsion at the "old witch" Indira Gandhi, India's then prime minister.

Despite the avowed goal of containing war, the US administration, in its zeal to put India in a spot, even went to the extent of pleading with the Chinese to initiate troop movements toward the Indian border in coordination with Pakistan, and assured it support in case the Soviet Union jumped into the fray. Near the end of the war, in a highly secret meeting on December 10, 1971, Kissinger pitched the idea to Chinese ambassador to the UN, Huang Ha.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 1971; america; bastards; eastpakistan; gandhi; india; indira; kissinger; nixon; usa
And now Kissinger can't stop lobbying for the Indians..
1 posted on 06/22/2005 1:17:39 PM PDT by Srirangan
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To: Srirangan

The Indians must be "a slippery, treacherous people". How else are they in a position to take American jobs outsourced to India but an American can't move to India with the job. Now an Indian can emigrate to the US, work and is protected by US laws. When the American jobs are sent to India, that Indian can return to his own country and take the job but an American cannot emigrate to India with the job which is now officially an Indian job. That would be hiring Americans to take Indian jobs. And that the Indian govt refuses allow to happen.


2 posted on 06/22/2005 1:33:25 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Srirangan

I happen to listen to a Nixon/ Kissenger phone conv tape on c-span. They weren't being hateful but Kissinger had just been to India and Nixon said to him that when you go there they lie so much it's like a cloud is around you and you can't see what teh heck is really going on. Simple fact is many cultures in this world consider lying to be basic operating procedure. I'm not sure we're not one of them.


3 posted on 06/22/2005 1:34:41 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Srirangan

What's really funny is the Jewish Henry Kissenger calling Indians "pushy"


4 posted on 06/22/2005 1:40:01 PM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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To: lilylangtree

"but an American cannot emigrate to India with the job which is now officially an Indian job. That would be hiring Americans to take Indian jobs. And that the Indian govt refuses allow to happen."

Not true.
There are no government restrictions to Americans comming here and working in India. As a matter of fact a lot of Americans ARE working in India in places like Bangalore, Hyderabad and Pune.

Just that most Americans wont be ready in the first place to work at the wages an Indian(in India) would be ready to do.

Anyway this post isnt about offshoring.


5 posted on 06/22/2005 1:46:22 PM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Srirangan

http://images.google.com/images?q=Apu&hl=en&lr=&client=safari&rls=en-us&sa=N&tab=wi


6 posted on 06/22/2005 1:50:16 PM PDT by sully777 (If anyone asks, I'm a monger-monger.)
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To: Srirangan

Such an irony that tomorrow when US fights a war with China, us "bastards" will be the allies!


7 posted on 06/22/2005 1:50:55 PM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Gengis Khan

I don't believe you'ld be our allies. I think you would find a way to play both ends against the middle. Much as Nehru did.


8 posted on 06/22/2005 1:58:42 PM PDT by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Gengis Khan

more like, when India and China start slugging it out, will the US be dragged in?

On another note, according to an Indian friend of mine, India doesn't have nukes cause of Pakistan, but because of China. Pakistan just isnt that much of a threat to China. Makes you think, doesn't it?


9 posted on 06/22/2005 2:01:55 PM PDT by stormlead
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To: Roccus

I dont think thats why Condolezza Rice would make so many trips to India so frequently. PM of India Dr.Manmohan Singh will be visiting the US next month.

We are heading towards an alliance and it would come much sooner then you think.


10 posted on 06/22/2005 2:05:41 PM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: stormlead

I have had this argument many times before. As things stand China is much more on a confrontation path with the US (and Japan) then with India. In fact they have even offered a strategic partnership with India. Now we only need to be too foolish to accept it.


11 posted on 06/22/2005 2:09:55 PM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Gengis Khan

We shall see. But after our experiences with India in the Cold War, I don't trust you folks much.


12 posted on 06/22/2005 2:11:45 PM PDT by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Srirangan

Nixon ain't President anymore.


13 posted on 06/22/2005 2:15:34 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: dennisw

"What's really funny is the Jewish Henry Kissenger calling Indians "pushy""

Mr. Buchanan... is that you?


14 posted on 06/22/2005 2:25:13 PM PDT by Betaille ("Within the covers of the Bible are all the answers for all the problems men face." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Betaille

I'm just joking ... and happen to be Jewish anywho.


15 posted on 06/22/2005 2:26:56 PM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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To: Srirangan

Just another Washington Whore.


16 posted on 06/22/2005 2:27:00 PM PDT by JustAnotherOkie
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To: dennisw

"I'm just joking ... and happen to be Jewish anywho"

I didn't know you were Jewish so I thought it might have been a "half-in-jest" sort of comment. I've never seen serious anti-semitism on FR except from trolls.


17 posted on 06/22/2005 2:31:51 PM PDT by Betaille ("Within the covers of the Bible are all the answers for all the problems men face." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Betaille

Being MOT (member of tribe) I get to make anti Jewish jokes. Even lame ones.


18 posted on 06/22/2005 3:01:27 PM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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To: dennisw

George Carlin's rule: "You can knock your own bunch."


19 posted on 06/22/2005 3:11:20 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Srirangan
They are bastards.

Just what we need to deal with the SW Asia Islam problem.

Back to the Khyber Pass!

20 posted on 06/22/2005 3:13:37 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: dennisw

"Being MOT (member of tribe) I get to make anti Jewish jokes. Even lame ones."

Are you Seinfeld's dentist?


21 posted on 06/22/2005 3:13:41 PM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: toddlintown

Who's this Jerry Steinfeld everybody's talking about?


22 posted on 06/22/2005 3:16:43 PM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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To: Betaille

By definition?


23 posted on 06/22/2005 3:19:26 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Betaille

Cant believe anti-semitism still exists, maybe its more prominent in the liberal coasts than in midwest/south ?


24 posted on 06/22/2005 8:53:05 PM PDT by desidude_in_us (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: desidude_in_us

"Cant believe anti-semitism still exists, maybe its more prominent in the liberal coasts than in midwest/south?"

Anti-semitism is very rare in the US today. To the extent it exists, it's mostly among anti-Israel arabs or paranoid leftists. I've never been to the midwest, but in the south I never experienced anti-semitism.


25 posted on 06/22/2005 9:38:58 PM PDT by Betaille ("Within the covers of the Bible are all the answers for all the problems men face." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Betaille
nope. They don't care in the south. However when I lived in Boston, a democrat friend of mine was talking to me about her best friend since childhood and asked me "you know she's Jewish, don't you?" It was all very random. So I asked her "do you think she knows about it?" humor is lost on liberals.

As for the Indians, to hell with Tonto.

26 posted on 06/22/2005 11:51:01 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (are you threatening me? I am the great cornholio!)
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To: dennisw

happen to be or just happen to be? If this was a democrat site, it would matter greatly.


27 posted on 06/22/2005 11:55:18 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (are you threatening me? I am the great cornholio!)
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To: Srirangan

He has been quoted as saying a lot of nast things.


28 posted on 06/23/2005 12:04:25 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: Srirangan

that would be nasty things., sorry.


29 posted on 06/23/2005 12:08:20 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Anti-semitism has been called "the poor mans bigotry", but my experience has been the exact opposite. The only places I've seen real anti-semitism is on university campuses, and the more posh and private the university, the more intense the anti-semitism. On the other hand I feel like I've been treated as a holy object by most Christians, whether black or white.


30 posted on 06/23/2005 9:11:42 AM PDT by Betaille ("Within the covers of the Bible are all the answers for all the problems men face." -Ronald Reagan)
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