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Local Insurgents: ‘Islamic Thinkers’ Menace Gay N.Y. [Attack conservative les]
New York Observer ^ | June 22, 2005 | by Ben Smith and Jessica Bruder

Posted on 06/22/2005 3:59:50 PM PDT by aculeus

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To: ViLaLuz
A "lesbian conservative"? There is no such thing, as much as the media would like us to believe.

Why do you have to be heterosexual before you can be called a conservative, and for that matter, why should a gay man or woman be automatically considered a knee-jerk leftist by default? I happen to be heterosexual, but that is not what defines me as a conservative. I'd say this woman is at the very least, a courageous free-thinker whose refusal to let others define her is worth applauding in of itself.

21 posted on 06/22/2005 4:59:08 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is not conservative!)
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To: RightWingAtheist

Good post. People who say gays (or atheists) can't be conservatives aren't thinking straight. So to speak.
They give all conservatives a bad name.


22 posted on 06/22/2005 5:01:35 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: expatpat

The Mohammedans hate all that stuff, yet the Left adores Mohammedanism...

When will they wake up?


23 posted on 06/22/2005 5:03:30 PM PDT by Guillermo (The last competent French General lies in Napoleon's Tomb.)
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To: Rummyfan; All
I'm surprised it took 17 replies to get it. I waited to see if anybody else posted it and Rummyfan, you have not disappointed.
Excelsior!
24 posted on 06/22/2005 5:14:23 PM PDT by olde north church ( So It Officially Becomes WWIV when???)
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To: aculeus
Here are some of the placards which upset Ms. Withers. I hope this settles the question of who are the good guys and who are the bad guys here. Screw nuance:

These images come from an interview with Withers you can read here

This isn't Bizzaro World, folks, it's the Real Rorld. The far left has shown its true stripes by allying itself with bigoted, homophobic, religious fanatics who share their goal of destroying America, capitalism, and all of Western Civilization. I know whose side I am on, and I hope Ms. Withers gets more support from my fellow FReepers

25 posted on 06/22/2005 5:17:38 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is not conservative!)
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To: expatpat

Well they basicly hate everything and anything that isn't fundamentalist islam. So that basicly means they hate you and they have shown by their rhetoric & actions that if they think they can kill you they will try. Make your preparations & plans accordingly.


26 posted on 06/22/2005 5:21:21 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Rummyfan

Uh yes as a matter of fact I do think that the groups name is indeed a oxymoron.


27 posted on 06/22/2005 5:24:46 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: California Patriot

Thank you. I'm not threatened by two men or two women living together, making an honest living, paying their taxes, and generally making the sort of contribution to society that we expect any decent person to do. I am threatened by leftist radicals who disguise their true motives under the weasel words of "liberal" and "progressive", who lend moral support to terrorists, who agitate for harmfule and wrong-headed policy, and who would strip the rest of us of our First and Second Amendment rights while insisting on special protection for themselves, and their "right to dissent". And while I can only speak for myself, I certainly hope that most people here feel the same way.


28 posted on 06/22/2005 5:25:39 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is not conservative!)
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To: RightWingAtheist

What they are doing is recruiting.
And they are finding lots of takers, especially among disaffected black yutes.
Gives them justification for their anger.
I used to have a certain 'tolerance' for NOI - hey, anyone who can get young guys to wear bow ties can't be ALL bad!
But I've since changed my mind.
If they're not all bad, they're close enough...

And, why is Islam attractive to young people?
Because they have NO faith at all anymore.
And something beats nothing, every time.


29 posted on 06/22/2005 5:39:45 PM PDT by Shazolene
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To: rbg81
Agree. At some point the Left will need to choose between supporting Muslims and their traditional base (gays, Jews, etc).

They've already all but thrown the Jews over the side. When Howard Dean has pander to Jewish voters because leftist whackjobs were caught passing out anti-Semitic literature at DNC Headquarters last week during Conyers' mock "committee hearing", I'd say that's one constituency that's just barely hanging on.

30 posted on 06/22/2005 5:48:57 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: California Patriot; ViLaLuz; RightWingAtheist
A "lesbian conservative"? There is no such thing, as much as the media would like us to believe.

Why do you have to be heterosexual before you can be called a conservative, and for that matter, why should a gay man or woman be automatically considered a knee-jerk leftist by default? I happen to be heterosexual, but that is not what defines me as a conservative. I'd say this woman is at the very least, a courageous free-thinker whose refusal to let others define her is worth applauding in of itself.

Good post. People who say gays (or atheists) can't be conservatives aren't thinking straight. So to speak. They give all conservatives a bad name.

The comment is particularly unhelpful to conservatives because lefties want gays to think that they must not only be liberals but fear and even hate conservatives. I agree with the poster who said he'd like to buy this brave woman a beer.

31 posted on 06/22/2005 5:57:47 PM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: Sonny M

Related story in today's NY Times.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1428049/posts


32 posted on 06/22/2005 6:03:20 PM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: Guillermo

When will they wake up?


They won't wake up. Its a textbook case of "be careful what you wish for--you might just get it." I'd love to see the look on the faces of the Leftists if/when they ever succeed in overthrowing Western Civilization as they know it. They think that, when all is said and done, they'll be able to ride the tiger and hang on in the cozy enclaves while the rest of the country/world suffers the effects of their policies & philosophy. On some level, it would be very satisfying to see these guys forced to worship someone else's God or suffer the whip. Unfortunately, the price would be the destruction of America.


33 posted on 06/22/2005 6:27:55 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: aculeus

Haven't read the article yet and have just wasted 20 minutes trying to figure out what the title means.


34 posted on 06/22/2005 6:29:19 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: Shazolene
And, why is Islam attractive to young people?

Because Mohammedism literally gives a licence to kill anyone you don't like, and take their stuff. Contriving a justifiable Mohammeden reasoning for doing so is a trivial exercise, given the specious philosophical tools Mohammedens arrogate to themselves.

35 posted on 06/22/2005 6:31:35 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: aculeus

It's like an endangered bird eating an endangered fish.


36 posted on 06/22/2005 6:38:42 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Decisions, decisions, decisions.

It's a real problem for the Times when a story doesn't contain any white male villains. ;)

37 posted on 06/22/2005 6:45:44 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: aculeus

Gosh, doesn't sound like she is celebrating "Diversity" to me.


38 posted on 06/22/2005 6:52:22 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: RightWingAtheist
The collage of posters harkens back to the days of the Beer Hall Putsch and Brownshirts hauling posters and placards warning the pure Aryans of the dangers those nasty Jews presented.

Today, it's homosexuals. Tomorrow it'll be Capitalism. And then, those degenerate muslims will come for all those still left hiding in the corners...out of sight.

Tolerance is reserved only for those who can play well with others and not for those who have the annihilation of their different countrymen in store.

39 posted on 06/22/2005 7:25:59 PM PDT by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: aculeus

Right you are.


40 posted on 06/22/2005 8:01:45 PM PDT by California Patriot
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