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MAN'S WORLD? NOT. THEY'VE NO IDEA. (Mantropy: signs of shriveling masculinity outlined below)
NY POST ^ | June 23, 2005 | HOLLY M. SANDERS

Posted on 06/23/2005 2:18:38 AM PDT by Liz

The latest marketing research.... has found that the testosterone-laden persuasion are pretty clueless the world over when it comes to notions of masculinity.

"We appear to be witnessing a new experience of male insecurity and confusion," the study concludes.

Slightly more than half of those surveyed said their societal role is unclear.......nearly one in 10 believe their role in society is becoming less dominant.....the most influential factor appears to be the rise of feminism and empowered women in the workplace.

...... led one participant to carp: "In the end, feminism has turned us all into women."

The "2005 Man Study," based on an unscientific poll of 2,000 men in 13 countries, said it is not as complicated as it might appear. Most men fall into one of four categories: the metros, the retros, the patriarchs and the power-seekers.

......masculinity is less clearly defined these days. Witness the onslaught of ad campaigns that simultaneously feed on and make fun of men's fears.

"A lot of people are taking the stereotypes and running with it," said Dave Carson, the co-CEO of Heavy.com, the largest online entertainment network for men. "Many fail to recognize that guys are much more well-rounded."

Lad mag Maxim, along with ad agency Crispin Porter & Bogusky, defines "Mantropy" as a silent killer that strikes men in the prime of their life.

One tell-tale sign: Excessive smoothie consumption. Waxing, peasant shirts and scooters also are symptoms of shriveling masculinity.

Marketers are reacting to the popularity of movies and TV shows such as "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" and a general attitude shift that has made it acceptable for men to get a pedicure and wear fitted jeans.

As Heavy's Carson said, "The de-manning of America is over, and men are back."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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Lad mag Maxim.....defines "Mantropy" as a silent killer that strikes men in the prime of their life. One tell-tale sign: Excessive smoothie consumption. Waxing, peasant shirts and scooters also are symptoms of shriveling masculinity.

Excessive smoothie consumption? Toodling around in scooters? Body waxing? Well, maybe in certain sections of the Hamptons....over at Fire Island, perhaps.

OK, FReepers, 'fess up. Who among you has been slurping smoothies, and getting body waxes?

1 posted on 06/23/2005 2:18:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

The only smooth things I ever consumed to some excess would be old brandies - of course, straight. Do these count?


2 posted on 06/23/2005 2:25:34 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Liz

I don't know exactly what a smoothie is. I have PBR and Coke in the garage fridge though. And what the h*ll is a peasant shirt?


3 posted on 06/23/2005 2:27:09 AM PDT by SoDak (A million miles away)
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To: GSlob

Mmmmmmmm.....no, you're OK.....smoothies are usually milk and fresh fruit based, blendered with ice.

So, have at it. Keep it neat, and keep it old.


4 posted on 06/23/2005 2:28:44 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz

body waxes???

Only if my pajamas chaff!! :-)


5 posted on 06/23/2005 2:29:49 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: SoDak

Peasant shirt.

6 posted on 06/23/2005 2:31:27 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: JoeSixPack1

Oh. Then that's ok.


7 posted on 06/23/2005 2:32:08 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz
Clearest possible sign of a reduction in testosterone is the reduction in the numbers of volunteers to fight in Iraq. Several months in a row, the services haven't found enough real men to sustain their requirements and the primary cause seems to be that their mommies won't let them join!

My theory is that besides the feminization of all children at an early age (no fighting, no conflict, no war toys - boys get dolls instead of cap guns), most of the primary Alphas got thinned out in the string of serious wars over the last century. What we have left are the progeny of the 4Fs and the draft dodgers, to a large extent.

We're becoming France, for exactly the same reasons - they lost their manhood generations ago at places like Verdun!

8 posted on 06/23/2005 2:33:41 AM PDT by USMCVet
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To: Liz

OMG, wearing that would kead to an *ss kicking in my circle of friends.


9 posted on 06/23/2005 2:34:43 AM PDT by SoDak (A million miles away)
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To: ken5050; martin_fierro; Libloather; mewzilla; Fedora; Conspiracy Guy; Fracas; geedee; ...
The "2005 Man Study," based on an unscientific poll of 2,000 men in 13 countries, said it is not as complicated as it might appear.

Most men fall into one of four categories: the metros, the retros, the patriarchs and the power-seekers.

10 posted on 06/23/2005 2:36:14 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz

Of course the fact that I can walk down the street and pass 100 women, maybe 3 of which I don't hear four letter words pouring out of like hot lava, has nothing to do with it.

And if it's a good day, maybe 5 of the hundred will be wearing a dress...


11 posted on 06/23/2005 2:36:57 AM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: SoDak

Phew, (sigh of relief). Glad to hear it.


12 posted on 06/23/2005 2:36:57 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: USMCVet
We're becoming France, for exactly the same reasons - they lost their manhood generations ago at places like Verdun!

We've got something like ten times the population, and we've suffered like 1/10th the casualties. I don't think the Verdun thesis holds much water.

...the primary cause seems to be that their mommies won't let them join!

That's because Mommy watchs the network news. Retention is pretty good, and those are the folks who really know what's going on in Iraq.
13 posted on 06/23/2005 2:38:30 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: USMCVet
..... the feminization of all children at an early age (no fighting, no conflict, no war toys - boys get dolls instead of cap guns)....

Mostly liberal "equality" crap.

14 posted on 06/23/2005 2:38:55 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: USMCVet

I would hate to agree with your assessment Colonel, but it sure does give pause for thought.

Semper Fi


15 posted on 06/23/2005 2:39:38 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: djf

Yeah, for sure men would act like men if women would act like women.


16 posted on 06/23/2005 2:41:16 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz
peasant shirts

Wow, I must be WAY OUT of the mainstream culture

Why would anyone want to wear a shirt called a "peasant" and why is it called that

17 posted on 06/23/2005 2:41:45 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: USMCVet

I wouldn't worry too much about boys with dolls. I once read a study on the differences between boys and girls. In this study, they gave Barbie dolls to boys, who immediately bent them a the waist, pointed the legs at their friends, and shouted "Bang, bang".


18 posted on 06/23/2005 2:42:28 AM PDT by wolfpat (dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: Popman

The shriveled males wear peasant shirts b/c they are slaves to fashion trends.

Called peasant shirts b/c they're copied from Basque sheep-herders clothing (or something like that).


19 posted on 06/23/2005 2:44:19 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz

Before my wife passed, for the 12 years we were together, I never once, not once, heard her curse.

I miss her very much, and haven't come close to finding anyone else who could compare.


20 posted on 06/23/2005 2:44:45 AM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: wolfpat; USMCVet

And I know a liberal mother who refused to let her little boy play with guns.......he then took his tinker toys, made his own gun, and went around aiming and shooting at people.


21 posted on 06/23/2005 2:46:52 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: djf

So sweet.


22 posted on 06/23/2005 2:47:39 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz

"In the end, feminism has turned us all into women." - This can definatelly be said about all liberals. Everyone remembers Kerry with the botox.


23 posted on 06/23/2005 2:48:00 AM PDT by Panerai
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To: djf
And if it's a good day, maybe 5 of the hundred will be wearing a dress...

Mmmmmmm, good point -- masculinity doesn't occur in a vacuum, and they aren't measuring it in a vacuum, either.

Perhaps they need to control for environment, like making sure their measured sample is engaged in dirt-biking, bikini-watching, watching an NHL or NFL game on TV, guzzling cheap beer, shooting pool with a coupla guys named Fast Eddie and Vinnie, jumping out of perfectly sound airplanes at 13,000 feet, or performing other estrogen-free, nag-free, dykery-and-LUGgery-free activities at the time their androgen and testosterone levels are measured.

It's a study protocol problem.

24 posted on 06/23/2005 2:48:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Liz

waay too early for such heady, er..heavy stuff....I have to go pluck my eyebrows..


25 posted on 06/23/2005 2:48:43 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Panerai

Good example---Kerry was the paradigm powdered and perfumed metrosexual.


26 posted on 06/23/2005 2:49:24 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz

This is an appropriate time I think to ask, what's a smoothie?


27 posted on 06/23/2005 2:49:48 AM PDT by I_dmc
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To: ken5050

......and don't make the eyebrow arch too sharp.....


28 posted on 06/23/2005 2:50:24 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz
Thanks, I googled the term and saw for myself.

My wife has several of these, I had no idea they were called that.

Just think how much money we could save by wearing each others clothes. < /sarcasm >

29 posted on 06/23/2005 2:50:48 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
I think that the services are missing the boat with their ads (or lack of them) for recruiting. They should show videos of the Marines and soldiers in Fallujah and Ramadi and say:

"We're looking for men as good as these...and we need your help. We're not going to kid you - this can be dangerous - but if you've got the guts to take that chance and you want to protect our country and the world from terrorism, join us.

Those that join after that kind of message are the kind of people we need.

30 posted on 06/23/2005 2:50:51 AM PDT by USMCVet
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To: Liz
And I know a liberal mother who refused to let her little boy play with guns.......he then took his tinker toys, made his own gun, and went around aiming and shooting at people.

By God, I'm proud of that kid, even if his smoothie-slurping, Birkenstocker mama isn't. In 19 years he'll be field-stripping and reassembling an AR-15 blindfolded while hanging from his heels.

Attaboy!

31 posted on 06/23/2005 2:51:00 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: I_dmc

Usually a smoothie is blendered fresh fruit and milk with ice thrown in to chill it out.


32 posted on 06/23/2005 2:51:36 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz
I dunno....I've been working and living around all these soldiers and Marines for the last year and a half. I haven't come across a single metrosexual or Smoothie-drinker among them. No green Mohawks, no multiple piercings...I have a skewed vision. (snicker!)

Tis is definitely spoiling me for my return to "real life." LOL

33 posted on 06/23/2005 2:52:22 AM PDT by Allegra (But It's A Dry Heat...)
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To: USMCVet

That's sort of an ongoing debate in those circles.

Duty, Honor, Country vs. Join the Army and we'll pay for college.


34 posted on 06/23/2005 2:53:13 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Liz
Yes Dear...
35 posted on 06/23/2005 2:53:16 AM PDT by Hunble (Retired after 20 years in the U.S. Army)
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To: Liz

Pedicures? Body waxes? Smoothies? Peasant shirts?

WTH????


36 posted on 06/23/2005 2:53:24 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (If you're not part of the solution, YOU ARE the problem.)
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To: Popman

See, you learn somehting new everyday on FR.


37 posted on 06/23/2005 2:53:26 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: wolfpat
"I wouldn't worry too much about boys with dolls. I once read a study on the differences between boys and girls. In this study, they gave Barbie dolls to boys, who immediately bent them a the waist, pointed the legs at their friends, and shouted "Bang, bang"."

That's funny! Semper Fi...

38 posted on 06/23/2005 2:53:37 AM PDT by USMCVet
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To: Hunble

Now, that's more like it....LOL.


39 posted on 06/23/2005 2:54:18 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: I_dmc; Liz

"smoothies" are found by the tens of thousands on Fire Island beachs during the summer months..


40 posted on 06/23/2005 2:54:25 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Liz

wel, kind of hard NOT to since I use duct tape..


41 posted on 06/23/2005 2:55:09 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

Now how do you know that??? hmmmm....????? :-)


42 posted on 06/23/2005 2:55:25 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: USMCVet

Thank you for your service USMCVet and you hit the nail on the head with your post.


43 posted on 06/23/2005 2:55:25 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (If you're not part of the solution, YOU ARE the problem.)
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To: ken5050

Duct tape? You know, that's very clever. Maybe you could write a book on men's grooming tips.


44 posted on 06/23/2005 2:57:21 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz
This type of feminization crapola has been happening since the late 60's.


45 posted on 06/23/2005 2:57:30 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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Matching hat, too....oh, my.


46 posted on 06/23/2005 3:00:20 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz
OK, FReepers, 'fess up. Who among you has been slurping smoothies, and getting body waxes?

Well, from my nickname, and the stuff I post around here, you probably think I look like this:

...but in real life, I'm just a harmless, loveable little fuzzball ( if you can ignore the scars... )-- however...

I will admit that in years passed, I've been known to wear ruffled shirts and pink colors for assorted girlfriends and wives who really liked the stuff. Without getting too graphic, let's just say they really liked unwrapping the package...but...

I draw the line at scooters and waxing- yuk!

Far as smoothies go- whazzat? I like iced tea "so strong you can see it raise its dukes" ( thanks, Ted Sturgeon ) or a nice cold Rolling Rock. Miller High Life in a pinch.

47 posted on 06/23/2005 3:00:41 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Real men don't worry about their clothes and hair.

We worry about our TOOLS!!!

:-) !!!


48 posted on 06/23/2005 3:00:48 AM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: backhoe
Oh, I dunno....this kinda comes to mind.............

What a way to go.

49 posted on 06/23/2005 3:04:49 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz

Smoothies are great in the summer..so that makes me ...what ?


50 posted on 06/23/2005 3:09:43 AM PDT by hineybona
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