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Democrats Demand Retraction From Rove
Guardian.co.UK & AP ^ | 6/23/05 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 06/23/2005 8:53:47 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: truthluva

"Sorry you were offended"

Yours was much better written than mine. The I one wrote for him said: "Eat me."


141 posted on 06/23/2005 10:48:19 AM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
THE KARL ROVE SONG
142 posted on 06/23/2005 10:49:48 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: thomas16

Yeah, I agree.

Rove just provided an opportunity to detail how his remarks are true keeping Durbin's comments alive. The Dems are fools for not recognizing this. Too bad for them, good for Americans that still need to learn they've become terrorist appeasers.


143 posted on 06/23/2005 10:50:33 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Publius6961

Ann Coulter

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter.html

recently put it best:

"...He [Little Dickie Durbin, CDB] then offered the typical Democrat "if/then" non-apology: i.e., "if my remarks offended anyone," based on the rather remote possibility any sentient, English-speaking adult who didn't hate America could have heard them and not been offended..."


144 posted on 06/23/2005 10:53:33 AM PDT by CDB
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To: Justanobody

Rove/Delay for Senate!

Then we'd have two men in the Body.


145 posted on 06/23/2005 10:53:59 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: normy

It also has the added benefit of ensnaring the Liberals hiding out in the Republican party without using their names that are sharing in the mantra of the Dem party.


146 posted on 06/23/2005 10:55:11 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: cubreporter

Rove should just put out a one line statement that says, "IF any dem's feelings were hurt by what I said, TOO BAD!!!!"


147 posted on 06/23/2005 10:55:11 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Dear Dems,
Call 1-800-Eat-Dirt


148 posted on 06/23/2005 10:56:09 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

"Bump" comment of the day:

Dems send fake letters to our Republican congressmen. The MSM pushes the idea of "no polls".

The outcome? Republicans read and react to constituent letters that are fake.

Rush figured out he was getting fake calls, FreeRepublic realized trolls were among us, but the GOP reps still haven't figured it out.


149 posted on 06/23/2005 10:56:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for suckers.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

You gotta be kiddin' me....


150 posted on 06/23/2005 10:59:23 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Rushgrrl

ROTFLMBO!!!!! Thanks - I needed that!


151 posted on 06/23/2005 10:59:51 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: mbraynard; truthluva
Here is what the bastard actually said:

http://durbin.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=239278

“Some may believe that my remarks crossed a line.
To them, I extend my heartfelt apologies.”

Some "may" believe his remarks crossed the line (he implied that most did not believe so, including him), and to those few oversensitive crybabies, Dickhead "Turban" Durbin offered his lame "apology."


152 posted on 06/23/2005 11:01:16 AM PDT by XR7
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To: Soul Seeker
Then we'd have two men in the Body.

How can I help??? Seriesly!!

153 posted on 06/23/2005 11:01:29 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: truthluva

Close. "I'm sorry you mis-interpreted my comments."


154 posted on 06/23/2005 11:02:09 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Ah, spring. Such as it is.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Break out the popcorn. This gonna make for great political theater. A summer blockbuster I dare say. LOL!


155 posted on 06/23/2005 11:02:51 AM PDT by USAConstitution
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Rove said the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for ``moderation and restraint'' after the terrorist attacks.

Did the Democrats actually use those words?

156 posted on 06/23/2005 11:03:41 AM PDT by USAfearsnobody
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Gotta LOVE ROVE. He can say what would be "Un-Presidential" coming from Bush but Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush, etal use this in private, "BIG TIME!"


157 posted on 06/23/2005 11:04:28 AM PDT by zerosix
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

From LexisNexis



Copyright 2001 Newspaper Publishing PLC
The Independent (London)

September 12, 2001, Wednesday

SECTION: COMMENT; Pg. 3

LENGTH: 1153 words

HEADLINE: ANGER IS THE FIRST RESPONSE, BUT UNDERSTANDING IS BETTER

BYLINE: David Aaronovitch

BODY:
THIS, AS James Rubin, America's former State Department spokesman, said yesterday, was the terrorist's Pearl Harbor, and any horror ever dreamed up by the most imaginative Hollywood script-writer now seems tame. A slow-motion airliner flies tilted, silhouetted against the blue Manhattan sky, on a mission to destroy thousands of lives. The plume of smoke issuing from the towers of the World Trade Centre mocks the torch held by the Statue of Liberty; before they fall, the dome of the Capitol in Washington amidst the smoke echoes St Paul's during the blitz. A great city is covered in white ash. In 20 years these will be the images that define the year 2001. They also define a terrible failure.

In a London afternoon, turning on the television, your first feeling might be one of simple incredulity, and your second anxiety for friends in America. The third could be to listen out for the sounds of sirens in your own streets, and the fourth to speculate on who could conceivably have been sufficiently devoid of conscience, and sufficiently brilliant, to co-ordinate these acts of total war. And then you want to rub them out, these monsters who could organise to have passengers on airliners - people like you and your kids - smashed (can we even guess at how those last seconds felt?) against the buildings of New York. Then the numbers are counted and some of the dead are named.

These suicide pilots used our technology of peace against us. Our planes, which unite families and carry travellers, were used to destroy our buildings, which house clerks and executives and IT specialists and traders. Psychologically, though, it was barbarism in the age of the Internet, with men and women who you could contact by e-mail obliterated in an undiscriminating blast.

All of a sudden we feel more vulnerable than ever, even here in Britain. More vulnerable than at the height of the IRA's London campaign, because the emerald "volunteers" would always make strenuous efforts to preserve themselves, and usually some effort to preserve others. Today it feels as though sophisticated and free societies have little real chance of protecting themselves against such complete ruthlessness.

Well, if we can't protect ourselves from attack, perhaps we can destroy those who would attack us? We have war planes with smart bombs, we have the SAS, the CIA, the Deuxieme Bureau; Vladimir Putin (Chechnya in mind) will surely want to lend us the expertise of the Russian intelligence and armed forces. And if it was Osama Bin Laden, why don't we take Afghanistan out? Especially since, with this week's suicide-assassination of the one remaining anti-Taliban leader in that cratered country, there is no one else there to prevent their total victory. If, of course, it was hard- line Iranians (as one pundit speculated yesterday), then that is more tricky. But hell, this is war. The stakes have been raised beyond a point that any have imagined possible.

I would love to do this. I want to see cross-haired pictures of cruise missiles smacking into terrorist bunkers; I want to see A10 gunships blast camps; I want to see mad mullahs and fanatic sheikhs dragged from their bunkers to trial in the United States and Europe. This is, after all, war. And as ever there are voices saying that we know who committed these crimes and that we know where they are. There are always such voices, and I suppose they could be right. It's just that their track record isn't that good.

In the middle of this great desire for revenge, we have a duty to the dead - and to those who will otherwise die - to remember that, even in the post- modern world, terrorism (and especially terrorism like this) always requires a context. We have a responsibility, despite the intolerable provocation, to be intelligent.

Much of the period since 1989 has been a time of hope for peace. The end of the Cold War made possible the Oslo agreement and the handshake (previously completely unimaginable) between Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat. Apartheid ended in South Africa and a proxy insurgency ended in Mozambique. By the middle of this year, Slobadan Milosevic was standing in a court in The Hague and Sinn Fein sat in the Northern Ireland assembly. The business of making peace was, as ever, hard, tortuous, often reviled and punctuated by attacks on the peacemakers.

But people forget quickly. They lose sight of just how bad war is when compared to peace. They fail to repeat Erasmus's words that there is nearly no peace which is not better than any war. Peacemaking has been replaced, in the Middle East at least, by fiddling, foot-dragging, obstinacy and name-calling, and - ultimately - by frustration and violence. Meanwhile the American administration has, since the end of the Clinton presidency, been more interested in selling the son of Star Wars to its allies than in forcing the Israelis to reflect on what they have to do to help end the intifada.We have watched the peace crumble, and known something would result from it. We simply couldn't imagine that it would be so bad.

The greatest possible mistake now would be to replace complacency with battle -rage. What, after all, did the suicide-mass murderers want? Other than an entry into the Paradise of mad young men, they wanted a massive and blunt-edged retaliation for their crimes, a retaliation that would turn innocent Muslims into victims and thousands into suicide radicals like themselves. They wanted all-out war between the US and its allies and the whole of the Muslim world. That's what their evil geniuses, probably still alive, will want.

It may be possible that renewed international co-operation will allow the precise targeting and the "surgical" removal of those who planned the events of 11 September 2001. If so I would not care in the least if they were all vaporised. But the best chance of preventing anything like this terrible day ever happening again lies in recalling the words of W B Yeats. "Too long a sacrifice," he wrote, "can make a stone of the heart."

When some Palestinians celebrated the attacks (long before, it has to be said, they knew quite what had happened) you could see the water that those who recruited the bombers had found to swim in. Do we really want to create more of the kind of people who can feel that it is a virtuous act to crash four planes full of fellow human beings into office buildings?

Our world is strangely small and dangerous. Peace is hard to get and requires compromises that, initially at least, are loathed. But if we don't act to solve the problems of the Middle East and other places, we too will eventually suffer. Today's stone-throwers will want to kill our sons and daughters. We've had the picture now. We know what it looks like. Smoke rising, not above Gaza or the wreckage of a Jerusalem pizzeria, but above Manhattan.

David.Aaronovitch@btinternet.com


158 posted on 06/23/2005 11:08:11 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Rove should tell the demonrats to go "F" themselves. In just as many words.

What are they going to do about it? Be obstructionists until he apologizes? Have him censured? Cry?

159 posted on 06/23/2005 11:08:15 AM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: truthluva

I would offer this as an "apology": "For those of you liberals who believe my comments were directed towards you, I offer no apology because you represent the scum of America for which no apology is needed. For the rest of you who recognize that my comments were not directed at you (because you are no scumbag liberal) then no apology is needed."


160 posted on 06/23/2005 11:08:25 AM PDT by plain talk
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