McCain Would Trounce Hillary in ’08 Match-up (New Zogby Poll)

Zogby ^ | 6/23/05

[Republican Wildcat]

Zogby always makes "fair" a negative. At worst that would be split between positive and negative, or not counted in the overall totals at all.

[The Foolkiller]

Stick to your principles. That is noble. But there are consequences. Hillary will thank you. She is counting on it.

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Yeah, right, Doug. That harpy witch doesn't even know I'm alive. Sure, she'll thank me. (Maybe with some kneepads in the Oval Office? Right. :D) And McPain doesn't, either. Channel your hatred for Sweet Hillary into useful channels, like getting a real conservative as the Repub nominee. Then nobody has to worry about this disgusting scenario (which I realize fully the Media will push for). I WILL NOT vote for either one of them. Take my advice & work to get a TRUE social conservative (which I don't feel Bush is, either, although I voted for him, solely because of the war & gay marriage)on the ballot,instead of composing parody songs, and you no longer have to worry about my vote.

[doug from upland]

Thanks for the advice. I am hoping the documentary on which I am working can help destroy her.

[GB]

A 100 percent social conservative can't get elected in this country, because 100 percent social conservatives are in the minority in this country. I've been in the conservative movement for nearly 40 years, literally since childhood, and I've denied that reality about social conservatives and tried to stay convinced that if we elect just the right person and do just the right things and present just the right platform, America would come to its senses and things would be like they ought to. I've stopped denying that reality and accept that things are never going to be like the majority of us at FR want them to be barring (a.) the Rapture or (b.) the institution of a dictatorship which would compel people to follow social conservative policies.

Have I surrendered? Maybe. I prefer to define it as accepting the reality of being in a minority in the way I believe, and the reality that it's hard to put a genie who's been out of the bottle for 40 years back into a bottle when he doesn't want to go back into the bottle and an increasing number of my fellow countrymen like the genie being out of the bottle.

[doug from upland]

“Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you,” Sen. Clinton said. “We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”

[Right Wing Assault]

Nationally, Hillary is stuck at 45% or below. She will never top that. (Unless maybe she runs against Kerry ;-)