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Group Calls for End to the Endangered Species Act's "Reign of Terror"
Canada Free Press ^ | Thursday, June 23, 2005 | Peyton Knight

Posted on 06/23/2005 9:24:26 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin

Washington, D.C.–In a letter to House Resources Committee Chairman Richard Pombo (R-CA), the American Policy Center (APC) and over 50 public policy groups called for an end to the federal government’s unconstitutional practice of taking land and property rights under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). Chairman Pombo plans to make reauthorizing the ESA a priority of the current Congress.

"There are some who claim that the Act needs to be ‘strengthened,’ ‘updated,’ or ‘modernized,’" said APC president Tom DeWeese. "How absurd. For three decades this law has done nothing but steal property, destroy economies, shatter livelihoods, cost billions of dollars, and even take lives. The ESA needs to be repealed, not ‘modernized.’"

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: act; animal; end; endangered; esa; law; reignofterror; species; unconstitutional
The ESA might have been conceived of with good intentions, but its implementation has been problematic, at best, and a complete fiasco, at worst. Its cost tens of thousands of hardworking, honest Americans their jobs, devalued property rights and is just another example of a seemingly benevolent liberal agenda run amok to cause pain and chaos.
1 posted on 06/23/2005 9:24:27 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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To: Alexander Rubin
The ESA might have been conceived of with good intentions, but its implementation has been problematic, at best, and a complete fiasco, at worst.

You're much closer to the truth with the latter.

2 posted on 06/23/2005 9:26:17 AM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: Alexander Rubin; SiliconValleyGuy

Yep, just like the Americans with Disabilities Act has been used by lawyers and wheelchair "victims" to enrich themselves and hurt others.


3 posted on 06/23/2005 9:30:37 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Alexander Rubin
HEAR! HEAR!

If anyone thinks that they have a rational argument to the contrary, I would love to hear it.

4 posted on 06/23/2005 9:33:10 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Exactly. I do honestly believe it was conceived of with the best intentions. But amoral and immoral individuals have so abused it, and used it as justification for every civil dispute under the sun, that it's become a meaningless tool to justify the beginning of a tyranny of the federal government, and perpetuate the quagmirifcation (if I can invent such a word) of the legal system.


5 posted on 06/23/2005 9:34:30 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Quagmirifcation.... hmmm, I like the way it feels in my mouth. Okay, new word invention allowed!


6 posted on 06/23/2005 9:38:04 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Alexander Rubin; B4Ranch; AuntB
The ESA has been and is being used by enemies to this nation, both foreign (read UN) and domesticto undermine and curtail US agriculture and many other U industries (timber, mining, etc.) and thereby making us more dependent on foreign interests.

See an example at:

THE STAND AT KLAMATH FALLS: THE KALAMATH BASIN CRISIS.

The ESA should have ben abolished long ago. In fact, my understanding is that it sunsetted years ago, but congress has administratively continued its funding because of all the special interests that have built up around it.

7 posted on 06/23/2005 9:38:09 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Alexander Rubin

I can't imagine how anyone could argue with those sentiments - however we know they will, because in the midset of these types, trees are more valuable than people and rights.


8 posted on 06/23/2005 9:38:10 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Alexander Rubin

NYT Headline:
"Republicans & Greedy Corporate Interests Seek to Wipe Out All Life on Earth!"


9 posted on 06/23/2005 9:40:23 AM PDT by talleyman (There is no shortage of idiots.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Ping!
10 posted on 06/23/2005 9:46:43 AM PDT by glock rocks (Get er done!)
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To: Gabz

Well Gabz, more than that, the ESA is a symbol for steps that the government is taking to look after the environment. As such, many groups find it critically important. It is religious doctrine to many people out there, in addition to the green, environmentalist and animal rights special interests groups out there. Thus, changing it would be a long, hard, costly and difficult uphill battle.

It just reinforces why big acts like that need to be so carefully looked at defined BEFORE they are passed. Or else judiciail activism, and normally on a small scale (local judges, not really the Supreme Court) will turn them into this. Instant quagmirification. Suddenly, you are waist high and wading in a confused and convoluted battle for an outdated act hat must be changed, but whose supporters are afraid it will be replaced by nothing or worse than nothing.


11 posted on 06/23/2005 9:57:14 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Jeff Head

Following the plan, step by step!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1428558/posts?page=15#15


12 posted on 06/23/2005 10:11:57 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Alexander Rubin

I'm all for reasonable restrictions in the name of protecting the environment, conservation and preservation of species - but within reason.

It is a sore subject with me because I have seen friends nearly lose their homes because of over zealous envirowhackos ruining their livelihoods.


13 posted on 06/23/2005 10:22:26 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Speaking of the law being unconstitutional. Where in the US Constitution does it grant the Federal Government the authority to pass laws regarding the protection of endangered species?

This law is unconstitutional outside the Washington D. C. simply because it's outside the authority of the Federal government.

For the federal government to have such power a constitutional ammendment would need to be passed granting such authority.

THe states have the authority to pass usch laws. The federal government does not.


14 posted on 06/23/2005 10:40:43 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

What ever happened to Clinton's, American Heritage and Rivers Act? Wasn't this part of another land-grab in association with the UN. I recall the big-dust up, but I don't remember what happened with it.


15 posted on 06/23/2005 11:21:41 AM PDT by cwb
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To: cwb

No idea. Anyone?


16 posted on 06/23/2005 11:29:34 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Alexander Rubin
"All your private property are belong to us."

     -The Supreme Court, June 23, 2005
17 posted on 06/23/2005 11:32:54 AM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Libertarian444

Well, that's comforting...Now I have nothing more to worry about!

Wait a bit guys...Just a few more minutes of denial...


18 posted on 06/23/2005 11:39:51 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Gabz
I'm all for reasonable restrictions in the name of protecting the environment, conservation and preservation of species - but within reason.

Well-stated. Part of the current problem with the Endangered Species Act is that it is too absolutist of a doctrine. Before extreme measures are taken to protect any species of life on earth, a couple facts should be considered:

1) Exactly how "unique" is the species we are trying to protect; e.g. is it a singular representation of a zoological family or just a slight variation of genetics exemplified by other similar species? AND

2) What overall impact on the ecosystem, if any, would a diminishing number of this species have?

As far as I know, neither of these are taken into consideration when resources relating to species protection are allocated, resulting not only in unnecessary displacement of human livelihood but an inevitable backlash against truly important environmental issues being fought with limited means.

19 posted on 06/23/2005 11:51:29 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: Quark2005

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Those are very important items that should be considered not just with the ESA, but with all environmental laws and regulations.


20 posted on 06/23/2005 11:58:08 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Quark2005

Good points.


21 posted on 06/23/2005 12:34:44 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: glock rocks; 1Old Pro; aardvark1; a_federalist; abner; alaskanfan; alloysteel; alfons; ...

Thanks for the ping GR.


22 posted on 06/23/2005 5:22:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: editor-surveyor

Got it...see my post number 7.


23 posted on 06/23/2005 5:23:48 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Alexander Rubin
In view of today's Supreme Court decision, I'm skeptical the ESSA will ever be repealed. Republicans are as much afraid of being labeled an enemy of the environment as they're afraid of being labeled an enemy of Big Bird and Jim Lehrer.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
24 posted on 06/23/2005 5:26:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Alexander Rubin
Oh please cancel that piece of trash, PULLEEEEZEE! That's the only thing that the Center for Bio Diversity has to constantly beat us over the head with like homegrown Taliban.
25 posted on 06/23/2005 5:44:44 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Alexander Rubin

The problem is sub species. If the law is limited to species and allows elimination of small populaations of subspecies that exist mainly in the mind of a splitter biologist then all will probably be ok.

There is a current flap over cave beatles in Texas. There are lots of species and they are all isolated to perhaps only one cave . They are protected even though all are closely related only an entomologist needing academic credit for naming a species would declare a difference.


26 posted on 06/23/2005 5:52:44 PM PDT by bert (Rename Times Square......... Rudy Square. Just in.... rename the Washington Post March??)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yep, just like the Americans with Disabilities Act has been used by lawyers and wheelchair "victims" to enrich themselves and hurt others.

If the average American knew how many of his freedoms have been stolen by lawyer leeches, and how many of his dollars have been unnecessarily funneled into their pockets, they would be horrified.

27 posted on 06/23/2005 9:51:45 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: Alexander Rubin

BTTT


28 posted on 06/23/2005 10:36:50 PM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: editor-surveyor


29 posted on 06/24/2005 3:09:38 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: editor-surveyor
Abolish the ESA ~ NOW!

Be Ever Vigilant!

30 posted on 06/24/2005 7:51:57 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: hattend

What's BTTT mean? Sorry, unfamiliar with the acronym.


31 posted on 06/24/2005 7:55:39 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Bump To The Top


32 posted on 06/24/2005 8:16:43 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: editor-surveyor

Cool, thanks.


33 posted on 06/24/2005 8:28:09 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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