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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: RememberTheAlamo

Roger That. NSNR


3,921 posted on 06/28/2005 6:24:27 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Canadian Outrage
It was the persistence of the parents that kept this bunch up all night. That kid lied about where he was when the father first phoned him. He wasn't at the spot he said he was gambling. This is the kind of evidence that the Prosecution has against this kid PLUS all the surveillance and cell records and computer hard drives. Plus a rather Large amount of LIES!!

I wish I had your confidence that the prosecution was really collecting all of this damning evidence against Joran. This entire mess stinks to high heaven of a cover-up. The Dutch are known to protect their own, and I believe that to be the case in this instance.

3,922 posted on 06/28/2005 6:25:33 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: maggiefluffs; brigette
From SM:

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Nope. But here's Mr. Ruben Trachtenberg (sp) at the same site -- assmotion, the rave party site....

I read on the site about 30,000 post ago that Ruben was a DJ? He can go RAVE if he wants to.

3,923 posted on 06/28/2005 6:26:28 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: auboy

Only a liberal would refer to an upset parent as a vigilante.

Not 'an' upset parent...a group of somewhere between 8 & 11 people outside the door...honking, yelling. Which is sufficient to upset the parent on the inside of the door.

3,924 posted on 06/28/2005 6:26:36 PM PDT by elli1
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To: cajungirl; Toespi
You purposely mischaracterize the hunt of a desperate terrified family to suit your paranoid raving.

That's putting it kindly.

3,925 posted on 06/28/2005 6:26:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: LongViewSC

Exactly right. It's simply NOT possible. There absolutely WAS complicity in this crime. And I do NOT believe that Natalee is just hanging around somewhere waiting to be found. It's obvious she didn't live past May 30th. The biggest crime here is the long DELAY in getting going on the real suspects. They had ELEVEN days to get rid of things. A real search didn't start for a few days. The Aruban Police force and government don't appear to be able to organize a two man rush to the Sh*thouse!! (Sorry) but I'm MAD.!!


3,926 posted on 06/28/2005 6:27:34 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Pepper777

Hi Pepper. You know I heard someone early on say, "just watch, those two brothers are being set up to take the fall for the Dutch brat"!! Because Deepak had the car it is certainly possible. However, it was NOT the brothers that were with Natalee. That was witnessed by many people including some of Natalee's classmates.


3,927 posted on 06/28/2005 6:30:48 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage


The new information has explained a lot to me. That Godson connection with the police chief.


3,928 posted on 06/28/2005 6:31:49 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: kcvl

I know, can you get over these people going on with this Judge LIE???? This alone says a great deal about their LACK of character.


3,929 posted on 06/28/2005 6:32:11 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: elli1
To understand this, you can't look at it with 20/20 hindsight. You have to try to see it as it was happening.

to the mother of a missing daughter.

3,930 posted on 06/28/2005 6:32:26 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: johnb838
he's going to kick her butt in front of her parents for getting everybody in trouble

When hell freezes over. The punk better hope they don't find Natalee's body. While trying to be a smart *ss he just showed he doesn't have a problem beating up women. There are few thousand people just wanting him to cross their path. Let's see him "kick butt" then.

3,931 posted on 06/28/2005 6:32:43 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: the Deejay; toldyou

NH is dead and her dad is on his way to view the body.

Sounds like the report from a couple of weeks ago. I think you were on an old page. RWV is kinda' hinky...I haven't figured it out, but you can very easily get onto a cached version. Sounds like that's what happened here.

3,932 posted on 06/28/2005 6:33:43 PM PDT by elli1
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To: Pepper777
I'll give PVDS credit for inviting Greta and Beth into his house this past week.
    Consider this scenario:
  1. Anita had just returned and he told her they had nothing to do with it ...
  2. Beth and Greta are out knocking and Anita hears the racket and sends Paulus out to let them in.
  3. He hides behind the bushes hoping they'll leave and he can tell Anita they had already left
  4. But they see him and he is too nervous to take that chance and plant any seeds of doubt in Anita's mind
  5. He figures he can outplay them at this
  6. Anita drops some info in the interview that leads to tips Beth off and leads to his arrest ...
  7. Someone assigns a new judge to the case who promptly (almost on time) releases him ...

3,933 posted on 06/28/2005 6:35:46 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: jacquej

Jaquej, thank you for the response and this is the battle between Ariman vs Ahura Mazda.(Good vs Evil) Good will triumph over evil.

As Emerson wrote, "Evil Only Triumphs When Good Men Do Nothing." In reality, Emerson should have included Women in that quote. Good Men&Women of all races will fight together in destroying evil. NSNR


3,934 posted on 06/28/2005 6:36:15 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

Jug Twitty stated on H&C that he did not know if PVDS has all the answers.


3,935 posted on 06/28/2005 6:36:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: demkicker

Well I'm not sure I'm as confident anymore except I did watch the spokeswoman from the Prosecutors office last night and she indicated that for each extension of time in prison that is granted, their office MUST produce more evidence than at the previous appearance. Remember they did do surveillance. My hope is that it started quite early like in the first few days. However, NOT seizing cars etc. is a concern. The car Natalee was riding in was apparently thoroughly cleaned.


3,936 posted on 06/28/2005 6:37:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Good to see you Canadian. :) Yes, it was Juran who was with Natalee. The two brothers may actually know what happened though. If Juran and his Dad can blame others they will do so, imo.

Greta just reported that Deepak said Paul VDS knows something, but I didn't get what it was. ???


3,937 posted on 06/28/2005 6:39:43 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: WestCoastGal
Paul van der Sloot is NOT a suspect anymore; he doesn't want the Dutch media to call him "Paul van der S.", he wants them to use his full last name.

How about sick *astard. Will that do?!

He knows the authorities very well.

No *hit, Sherlock! One of the lead "investigators" is Juran's Godfather.

3,938 posted on 06/28/2005 6:39:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Pepper777

Thank you. NSNR


3,939 posted on 06/28/2005 6:40:32 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: LongViewSC

It makes me sick to think they may walk, but that appears to be what the Arubans plan.

From the beginning of this I felt like every Aruban spokesperson, official and otherwise was putting on a great big 'dog and pony' show for us. They d/n want to know what happened especially since it looks like several of their own are involved. The claims of a relatively crime free island are the result of the ostrich theory of management.

There are no rivers on Aruba from what I could see on the various maps. Looks like the natives are trying to make one of their own--De-Nial.

3,940 posted on 06/28/2005 6:40:56 PM PDT by Tarheel ( Carolina on my mind)
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