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Tonight we are no longer a free country (vanity)
6/23/05 | Self

Posted on 06/23/2005 8:06:55 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Everybody knows about the shot that was heard around the world as the birthing pains of this once great nation. Today, sadly, we may have heard it's death knell.

It did not come with violence or shots fired. It came with the virtual elimination of personal property rights.

Our founding fathers knew how important the ownership of property was and sought to protect the right to be secure in the ownership of property to the extent that they enshrined the guarantee that property would not be taken for public use without due process and just compensation.

For over 200 years it was understood that "public use" meant that the ownership would transfer from the private owner to the local, state, or federal government for things such as military bases, roads, schools, prisons, etc. Now, the meaning of "public use" has been altered by 5 people who were never elected to office and in all reality, are completely unaccountable to anyone, to mean privately owned condos, shopping centers, and business parks under the thin guise that those enterprises would contribute more tax money to the coffers, thus increasing the "public good"

Justice Stevens, writing for the majority said that judges should give city councils and state legislatures "broad latitude in determining what public needs justify the use of the takings power," he added. To make sure that he wasn't misunderstood he added, "The city has carefully formulated a development plan that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including, but not limited to, new jobs and increased tax revenue," and just destroyed any pretence that you have any recourse whatsoever if the government or county decides that they want your property for any reason at all.

Sandra Day O'Connor writing a scathing dissent correctly said that now rich and politically land developers and businesses could basically take your land away from you with the help from the local government. Yes, you could fight it in court, but it is now fruitless as you are guaranteed to lose in a fixed fight.

For years the people have for the most party sat quietly as the government stole more and more freedoms from us. Prior to 1914 and fool could take any drug he or she wanted and kill themselves, thus increasing the quality of the gene pool for the rest of us. Before 1918, the government had no claim to your wages and could not tax them. Prior to 1934, Sears sold machine guns from their catalog and nobody thought anything about it. Prior to the 1950's preachers could freely endorse or denigrate any political candidate they wanted, just as had been done since the very first town government was formed in this country almost 350 years prior. Since 1986 it has been illegal to manufacture and sell a machine gun to a civilian despite the fact that in the past several decades the number of people int he US murdered by a person with a machine gun has been exactly one, and the person doing the shooting was a police officer using a gun issued to the police department.

But hope is not lost however, ownership of real property does a funny thing to people. It is a spot that a person can say, "This land is MINE!" with a dedication and a fierceness that is somewhat scary. Religion and politics and abortion and the WOT all take a back seat when two neighbors are faced with having their property stolen by the government.

Maybe that bell sounding isn't the death knell but the alarm.

Maybe this will awake the sheeple to realize that the socialist have gone too far.

Maybe the bell is just signalling round two of the Revolutionary War.

Will this war be fought with bullets or ballots?

We shall see.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: court; crime; domain; eminent; kelo; landgrab; property; rights; supreme
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To: Blood of Tyrants
US Supreme Court to the Citizens of America...

"You peasants should not be revolting !"
21 posted on 06/23/2005 8:26:21 PM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: cyborg

This is an issue which all Freepers (left or right) and americans can agree with I'm sure. Who in their right mind would be for this?


22 posted on 06/23/2005 8:26:33 PM PDT by to_zion
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I would like to ask the Justices how they feel approving of something that even the repressive country of Saudi Arabia doesn't do. They have no public domain law. The King can't even take property away from it's owner.
23 posted on 06/23/2005 8:26:40 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Pray for us all.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Ironically, as soon as some yuppie's property is taken so a Home Depot can be built, 49% of the population will conclude that this is another one of those "benefit the rich corporations" things that "the Republicans must have done."


24 posted on 06/23/2005 8:27:12 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: to_zion

Did you see the thread on DU? Talking about a truce with FR over this... Federal Express is delivering iced tea to hell as we speak!


25 posted on 06/23/2005 8:28:21 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Many thanks to the Republican presidents who appointed three of the five assholes who stole our property today.


26 posted on 06/23/2005 8:28:28 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I wonder if this precedent setting decision was based off of foreign law.


27 posted on 06/23/2005 8:28:58 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Fight on!

The liberals are taking a "scorthed earth" approach to this administration, and the majorities policies, so LETS GIVE THEM A SCORTCHED EARTH!

I for one have ahd all that I can take from these socilaist liberals!

I can, and will fight to keep what is left of my "property rights" and as for another revolutionary war II, it is closer than you think to becoming reality!!

82nd ABN 1/508th BN Bco
"fury from the sky"


28 posted on 06/23/2005 8:30:00 PM PDT by standing united (The second amendment does not stand for the right to hunt, but to over throw a corrupt Gov.)
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To: F16Fighter

O'Conner was standing with the conservatives against the fascist five.


29 posted on 06/23/2005 8:30:41 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Government is theft)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Yes. The laws of all communist and socialist countries allow the government to take possession of any and all property.


30 posted on 06/23/2005 8:31:15 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Very eloquent, Mr. Blood.

Since the decision was justified for the good of the community, I presume we are now living in a socialist state. There was a time when, in the USA, the good of the community was embodied not in the fact that every member of that community worked together, under direction of the komissar, toward a common goal, but that they retained individual rights. Including and especially property rights.


31 posted on 06/23/2005 8:31:44 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: clee1
Consider this a public notice: If the State comes for my property, they had best send a SWAT team first.

Don't worry, at some point in time in the near future I'm sure it will become SOP.

32 posted on 06/23/2005 8:32:02 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

How would they feel if Wal-Mart wanted to bulldoze THEIR home for a Supercenter?


33 posted on 06/23/2005 8:32:18 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: DB

Remember when everyone wanted "zoning" and now they are waking up to realizing that by adopting "zoning" they gave up their private property rights to the government to control! HELLO!

WAKE THE HELL UP AMERICA!


34 posted on 06/23/2005 8:32:39 PM PDT by standing united (The second amendment does not stand for the right to hunt, but to over throw a corrupt Gov.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I pray this is the alarm. even the Libs at DU are angry about this. They even suggested aligning with freepers on this one issue.

The Scotus needs somekind of accountability to the people


35 posted on 06/23/2005 8:33:36 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: cyborg

OMG, you read my mind. I just came from DU a few seconds ago to see what they thought. Yep, a few posters said that it would be a good idea and they'd like to start some grassroots FR/DU movement. WOW!


36 posted on 06/23/2005 8:34:22 PM PDT by to_zion
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Thanks for posting this, but the USSC just confirmed what's been standard practice for at least the past 20 years. Besides us kooks, who cares?


37 posted on 06/23/2005 8:34:35 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Then the Second Amendment already trumps today's ruling.


38 posted on 06/23/2005 8:35:19 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: to_zion

THE SOCIALIST WHO BROUGHT THE ACTIONS!


39 posted on 06/23/2005 8:35:47 PM PDT by standing united (The second amendment does not stand for the right to hunt, but to over throw a corrupt Gov.)
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To: standing united

Yes. Various malevolent forces are trying to layer the American Nation with all sorts of terrible laws and restrictions. They seek control of the populace and want to control people to such an extent that the citizenry can only behave like drugged wasps.


40 posted on 06/23/2005 8:36:43 PM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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