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Tonight we are no longer a free country (vanity)
6/23/05 | Self

Posted on 06/23/2005 8:06:55 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Everybody knows about the shot that was heard around the world as the birthing pains of this once great nation. Today, sadly, we may have heard it's death knell.

It did not come with violence or shots fired. It came with the virtual elimination of personal property rights.

Our founding fathers knew how important the ownership of property was and sought to protect the right to be secure in the ownership of property to the extent that they enshrined the guarantee that property would not be taken for public use without due process and just compensation.

For over 200 years it was understood that "public use" meant that the ownership would transfer from the private owner to the local, state, or federal government for things such as military bases, roads, schools, prisons, etc. Now, the meaning of "public use" has been altered by 5 people who were never elected to office and in all reality, are completely unaccountable to anyone, to mean privately owned condos, shopping centers, and business parks under the thin guise that those enterprises would contribute more tax money to the coffers, thus increasing the "public good"

Justice Stevens, writing for the majority said that judges should give city councils and state legislatures "broad latitude in determining what public needs justify the use of the takings power," he added. To make sure that he wasn't misunderstood he added, "The city has carefully formulated a development plan that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including, but not limited to, new jobs and increased tax revenue," and just destroyed any pretence that you have any recourse whatsoever if the government or county decides that they want your property for any reason at all.

Sandra Day O'Connor writing a scathing dissent correctly said that now rich and politically land developers and businesses could basically take your land away from you with the help from the local government. Yes, you could fight it in court, but it is now fruitless as you are guaranteed to lose in a fixed fight.

For years the people have for the most party sat quietly as the government stole more and more freedoms from us. Prior to 1914 and fool could take any drug he or she wanted and kill themselves, thus increasing the quality of the gene pool for the rest of us. Before 1918, the government had no claim to your wages and could not tax them. Prior to 1934, Sears sold machine guns from their catalog and nobody thought anything about it. Prior to the 1950's preachers could freely endorse or denigrate any political candidate they wanted, just as had been done since the very first town government was formed in this country almost 350 years prior. Since 1986 it has been illegal to manufacture and sell a machine gun to a civilian despite the fact that in the past several decades the number of people int he US murdered by a person with a machine gun has been exactly one, and the person doing the shooting was a police officer using a gun issued to the police department.

But hope is not lost however, ownership of real property does a funny thing to people. It is a spot that a person can say, "This land is MINE!" with a dedication and a fierceness that is somewhat scary. Religion and politics and abortion and the WOT all take a back seat when two neighbors are faced with having their property stolen by the government.

Maybe that bell sounding isn't the death knell but the alarm.

Maybe this will awake the sheeple to realize that the socialist have gone too far.

Maybe the bell is just signalling round two of the Revolutionary War.

Will this war be fought with bullets or ballots?

We shall see.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: court; crime; domain; eminent; kelo; landgrab; property; rights; supreme
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To: hotshu
Also one of my favorites.

Me too. I think the Author of this thread may like it too?

81 posted on 06/23/2005 8:52:26 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: annelizly
"...does ruby ridge sound familiar???"

The FBI agent (Degan) who was killed was from my neighborhood. I did not know him. The news locally made that guy into a hero because he was local, but I found the reports to be confusing.

From Waco, to Ruby Ridge, to the Elian affair, the Feds have been out of control with violating constitutional rights. I do not care for Federal agents being killed, but those who made certain bad decisions should be required to answer for them. Won't happen though. The Clintons seem to be invincible. No wonder we are all getting cynical.

82 posted on 06/23/2005 8:52:28 PM PDT by Radix (I was looking for a Tag Line when I found this one!)
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To: RWCon
This is a substansial step toward socialism. But it is not the first.

In principle, it is ... it IS socialism.

In practice it is same shit, new day.

83 posted on 06/23/2005 8:53:53 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: kpp_kpp

Article III: The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour.

Please contact your Congressmen an request that these 5 Idiots be removed from office.

84 posted on 06/23/2005 8:54:09 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Thinkin' Gal
We need an amendment to the Constitution that says:

85 posted on 06/23/2005 8:54:10 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Well written. One point, sadly we lost our property rights when SCOTUS allowed communities / states to tax our property. From that point on we could only rent it from the government. As I recall this occurred about the early to mid 1800s. Few people seem to know it. For those of you that think this thought extreme, quit paying your property taxes and see who really owns your property.
86 posted on 06/23/2005 8:54:25 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Beautiful essay. I agree on all points.

Really want to get something done?

A work stoppage of enough Americans would certainly break the back of any tyranny. Just have to get enough people to not go to work. Any taking up of arms against a tyrannical government would be quickly quelled.
87 posted on 06/23/2005 8:54:28 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Humal
"What can he do if the Senate Judiciary Committee stalls & balks & delays the appointments to go to the full Senate as they are doing every appointment nominated by President Bush?"

He can start by using the Bully Pulpit, and kickin' some @ss....


88 posted on 06/23/2005 8:54:29 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Thinkin' Gal

To the satanic forces everything is a commodity to be bought and sold.

89 posted on 06/23/2005 8:54:35 PM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: TheOtherOne
Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Like it or not, the constitution already seems to allow the taking of private property, with "just" compensation, whatever that is.

90 posted on 06/23/2005 8:56:05 PM PDT by AZLiberty
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Blame the Kennedys...Anthony Kennedy and Ted Kennedy, that is. Without Anthony, this would have been 5-4 the other way around. And without Ted, Anthony never would be sitting on the SCOTUS to begin with (Robert Bork would).

91 posted on 06/23/2005 8:56:16 PM PDT by montag813
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To: PhiKapMom

"IMO the only reason the idiots at DU are against this is that it is a blue colar neighborhood = Democrats. If was a more upscale suburban neighborhood, they would be laughing as they would claim it was against Republicans and that was okay."

I scooted over to DU, and there's some real outrage over there - and I find that amusing.

One of the primary tenets of socialism/communism is "Limited or (even better) NO private property rights.

And they're shocked the Lib judges voted this way! Well, frickin' DUH!!!!

Hell, they don't even understand their own ideology.

92 posted on 06/23/2005 8:56:16 PM PDT by sbelew
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To: mysterio

I'm sure that our forfathers thought the samething when confronting the "red coats!"

93 posted on 06/23/2005 8:56:57 PM PDT by standing united (The second amendment does not stand for the right to hunt, but to over throw a corrupt Gov.)
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To: standing united
I am positive that there are more good people in a country than bad people, but when the bad people grow too cavalier in their abuse of power they must be stopped.

Evil people are the dark vortexes on the Sea of Life.

94 posted on 06/23/2005 8:57:23 PM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: Humal

What about building a wind power site off Hyannis Port?

95 posted on 06/23/2005 8:57:43 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Government is theft)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Remember this date. June 23, 2005. It will be the date in history where Lady Liberty's back was broken or where she was awakened from a long slumber.

Unfortunately, she was awakened by a government official handing her a small check and kicked her out of her house so they could build a pornography factory.

96 posted on 06/23/2005 8:58:28 PM PDT by bobhoskins (...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
We have three branches of government. They are co-equal to the extent that power is asserted. It has ever been so.

Would it not be within bounds for the President to declare that this ruling is a violation of the 5th Amendment, and therefore unconstitutional, and issue an executive order suspending the order until Congress can act in emergency session to counteract it?

97 posted on 06/23/2005 8:58:35 PM PDT by montag813
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To: F16Fighter
Based upon her record as of late, O'Connor has become that broken clock which is right twice a day.

And she uses a European-manufactured World Time clock to tell her what time it is in America.

98 posted on 06/23/2005 8:59:12 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: standing united

I would like to see Constitutional government restored. I don't think either party is going to bring us even close to that. But if we stop generating revenue, that will make them notice. Kind of like cutting off the blood supply to the tumor.

99 posted on 06/23/2005 8:59:30 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: brityank


Yes it is!!


100 posted on 06/23/2005 8:59:37 PM PDT by The Last Rebel
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