Skip to comments.The Flag Burning Amendment passed by the House
Posted on 06/24/2005 4:07:49 AM PDT by freeform
The continually put forward Amendment to the Constitution, to outlaw the burning of the American Flag, should not be passed; even though I feel loathed and offended by the burning of the American Flag, because it symbolizes to me, the individual Freedom, Rights and Liberty that our forefathers fought and gave their lives for, it also represents to me the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which to me are sacred documents. Many brave people have fought and died for our individual Rights, Liberty and Freedom, and what this Country represents under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, with the American Flag as their symbol of pride in this Country. But I hope they gave their lives for what the American Flag represents to them, and not just for the symbol itself. This is the only Country on Earth, where we have the freedom and the Right to burn the symbol, the flag. Where people are not put in jail or killed for expressing their political dissent.
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I personally think that anyone who would burn our flag, should be given a one-way ticket, to any other Country on Earth. But we should not have political prisoners in this Country. I believe in freedom and liberty, more than the symbol that represents it. People should have the Right to express their political dissent; any way they so choose, so long as they do not hurt or violate anyone else's person, property, privacy or freedom. For me to set one symbol above all other symbols, by making it the only symbol that you can put people in jail for desiccating it, is tantamount to idolatry. You have to be willing to pay the price for freedom and liberty, and sometimes the price seems great, but the blessings of liberty are greater, to be free, and stay free, true freedom is worth any cost.
The American flag has been an honored symbol; the flag that we draped over the bodies and caskets of our honored dead. The American flag has been consecrated with their blood, in their fight for Family, Country, Liberty and Freedom. But burning the American flag can take nothing away from their Great Sacrifice; it is only the symbol of that Sacrifice, and not the Sacrifice itself. No one or nothing can ever take away from or Diminish, the Lives that have been given, and the Sacrifices that have been made, for Family, for Country, for Liberty and for Freedom.
But we should give Honor to our symbol of Liberty, long May She Wave, ore the Land of the Free, and the Home of the Brave. The Stars and Stripes of Freedom; the Flag of the United States of America, symbol of the Freest Nation on Earth, and the Sacrifices that have been made, and the Lives that have been given for that Liberty and Freedom. Do not let their Sacrifices be empty, or in vain. Let Freedom Ring from Sea to shining Sea, for now and forevermore.
The proposed ban on flag-burning is a purely symbolic, political act. Even if it did pass, it would likely be tested and struck down in either a liberal or conservative high court.
Gotta run now. I have to burn a Koran in the front yard before heading to work.
I wonder exactly what this would cover. When I was a Boy Scout, we would have special ceremonies when our flag got too old or worn and would burn it then. I thought there were special conditions where burning a flag is appropriate.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
I for one am glad that Congress and thereafter state legislatures will be spending their time (and taxpayer money) debating this issue.
I for one believe that outlawing the burning of the American Flag will help defeat terrorism, grow the economy, create jobs and lower crime.
I for one am also very sarcastic.
When liberals are as outraged at flag burning as they are at Koran desecration, then we'll know their pose as champions of free speech is truly sincere.
I agree totally on that one. I would add the desecration of the Bible to that too.
Gotta back this one, simply because the same people who burn our flag as a symbolic gesture are the ones who scream in outrage about perceived desecration of the Koran. Let's see some consistency!
Now that our Boys-In-The-Balticway have passed this bit of feel-good, I can be comforted that none of the illegals and gangs storming over our borders will be able to burn this flag with impunity, or stop the government from taking a few city blocks, or even China from Unocal.
The unrepentant Court that decided the symbolic act of desecration of our flag was somehow protected speech did so
after a godless Communist led his group of dissseased and mentally challenged sub-humans in the patriotic display
of petty vandalism and theft after their profane language and obscene hand gestures were not getting the attention they desired. A stolen flag was burned as the animals rutted about chanting the Red the Whtie ,the Blue ,we spit on you.And the demigods of the Federal Court decided Texas had no right to enact laws protecting the national flag.
And it is just a symbol of our country. The World Trade Center was just a symbol of our system of commerce. Those who get more exercised over attemt to protect our flag and
restore some measure of what once was.Than they get over the vile act --have No right-indeed their public displays
over the events of 9-11-01 are proven false because --after all it was just a symbolic gesture.If itis ok to desecrate our flag--then it ought be equally acceptable to
burn a cross on someones lawn.
I can't believe that 77 democrats went along with the majority of the republicans to pass this protectionism that is going nowhere! Some dems and repubs didn't even vote on it.
here's a link to the vote record if anyone is interested:
As I posted to another- if desecration of the flag is so
sacrosanct-and your satire justified then it was equally ok
for the freaking Islamic Terrorists to bring down the World
Trade Center-because it was just a symbolic act. It is just as acceptable for someone to burn a cross on someones lawn
It's just a symbolic act. AH to h___ with it America was
destroyed back when the freakin' Commies shut down McCarthy.
I didn't satirize or make fun of the subject at all. Desecrating the flag in a political manner is probably more outrageous to me than anyone. I do bring up the question though, of when I was a boy scout, we would burn a flag in a special ceremony if it became too worn or ragged. Such was always a sobering event.
I don't think that Moog's boyscout example was satire. I remember when my brother was in the boyscouts, and they "retired" their old, worn-out flags with ceremonial burning.
But regardless, there is a significant difference between burning a flag and planting a burning cross on someone else's property for purposes of intimidation. Also a HUGELY significant difference between burning a flag and the murder of thousands of people.
That said, I think flag burning as a form of protest is just stupid. However, I agree with the author of the article above, that if we pass an amendment elevating the status of the flag as a symbol like that, we are engaging in idolatry.
You're right. It was not meant to be satirical at all (I was wondering where that came from). I was merely wondering if such would cover special ceremonies too. We showed extreme respect for the flag in them and they were a very spiritual experience. Our Boy Scout leaders always scolded us if even a little of the flag touched the ground.
Sometimes I just can't believe I'm living in the country in which I was born . You can burn my flag but don't denegrade a koran . Have the dims gone mad ? WARNING to flag burners , do not burn a flag in my presence , you can tread on supermans cape , you can steal the wind , you can pluck a thorn from an ole angry lion but don't mess around
with our countrys Flag , the symbol for which our heros fought and died for , preserving the rights of even the lowest forms of existance like flag burners .
What a week. I can stand outside and burn the flag as they take my land.
Simply pass a law saying that any subsequent reaction by bystanders to the flag burning scumbag is protected "speech" also.
I cant wait until these people who are against a flag Amendment state their distaste with outlawing guns and abandonment of the 2nd Amendment.
They state that they are agaisnt banning free speech by stopping the flag burners, but they do not wish to protect the Right to bare arms in such a vigorous way.
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns...these clowns better get on the stick or NONE of them will be re-elected next year. Conservatives are WAY past the flag-burning issue and are sick about the illegal alien invasion, the over-throwing of our private property rights by this out-of-control SCOTUS, and oil at $60/bbl. How about doing some REAL work on those issues, Congressmen?
AMEN! Is this the most important issue these politicians have to work on right now? This is nothing but a big smokescreen to get attention away from the fact that nothing else is getting done & that it's business as usual in Washington.
The majority of people voted for the Republicans to "do their thang" & that doesn't include reaching across the aisle all the time & never making the Dims reach back.
We always give in at the end because the Liberals know how to throw better tantrums.