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The Flag Burning Amendment passed by the House
Freedom Forever Website ^ | 01/06/03 | Norman Scott Mills

Posted on 06/24/2005 4:07:49 AM PDT by freeform

The continually put forward Amendment to the Constitution, to outlaw the burning of the American Flag, should not be passed; even though I feel loathed and offended by the burning of the American Flag, because it symbolizes to me, the individual Freedom, Rights and Liberty that our forefathers fought and gave their lives for, it also represents to me the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which to me are sacred documents. Many brave people have fought and died for our individual Rights, Liberty and Freedom, and what this Country represents under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, with the American Flag as their symbol of pride in this Country. But I hope they gave their lives for what the American Flag represents to them, and not just for the symbol itself. This is the only Country on Earth, where we have the freedom and the Right to burn the symbol, the flag. Where people are not put in jail or killed for expressing their political dissent.

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To: freeform

I believe we should stop referring to this as a flag burning amendment. Under this wording,

"The Congress shall have power to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States,"

Congress would have wide leeway to name a number of different activities beyond burning to be desecration. They could make it illegal to have it raised at night unilluminated or make it illegal for it be out in the rain. Both are currently part of the US Flag code.
Pity the guy who puts in some overtime and finds the police on his doorstep when he arrives home after dark.


21 posted on 06/24/2005 6:06:17 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: freeform

A law that can’t be enforced is a bad law, and this is one of them. Our congress crooks should be spending their time on border problems and other items of physical importance rather than issues born from emotion.

And yes, I love my flag.


22 posted on 06/24/2005 6:10:40 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: alicewonders

We always give in at the end because the Liberals know how to throw better tantrums.

Now it seems everyone is in on doing just that--throwing tantrums.


23 posted on 06/24/2005 6:13:27 AM PDT by moog
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To: freeform

Congress fiddles, while Rome burns. Blackbird.


24 posted on 06/24/2005 7:08:48 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: NC28203
WRT #21, that is the liberal straw-man to take a knock at the Flag desecration amendment. The liberals say if you can't ban all sorts of mistreatment then we shouldn't be able to ban any. Pure BS and a very weak argument indeed.
25 posted on 06/24/2005 12:48:41 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Final Authority

>>>WRT #21, that is the liberal straw-man to take a knock at the Flag desecration amendment. The liberals say if you can't ban all sorts of mistreatment then we shouldn't be able to ban any. Pure BS and a very weak argument indeed.

That wasn't my argument against the amendment. I was just merely pointing out that it is not specifically a flag burning amendment as desecration has yet to be defined. My argument against this amenendment is based on free speech grounds.


26 posted on 06/24/2005 12:54:08 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: NC28203

Free speech grounds is an argument when other arguments don't sell. There are countless cases where free speech is controlled or sanctioned by the government with penalties for misusing ones free speech. The CFR bill reluctantly signed by GWB (McCain Feingold) is an affront to free speech but it does not eliminate speech in that it only forces accommodations for the general benefit of the election process (BS but that is how McCain sold it). The USSC apparently saw it similarly. Outlawing flag burning does not outlaw speech, it requires that one use other methods to get their anti-American and liberal/socialist/communist views on the front page.


27 posted on 06/24/2005 1:07:44 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: moog
You are correct. Apparently, it is a crime only if the intent behind burning the flag is not in favor.

In other words, thoughtcrime.

28 posted on 06/24/2005 1:09:00 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul

You are correct. Apparently, it is a crime only if the intent behind burning the flag is not in favor.
In other words, thoughtcrime.

Oh boy, that opens up a whole new kettle of worms.


29 posted on 06/24/2005 1:12:30 PM PDT by moog
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To: Fawn

What a week. I can stand outside and burn the flag as they take my land.

Do you have a Burn Permit, and a Fire Certified Burn Barrel?


30 posted on 06/24/2005 1:18:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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