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Deputy Tasers 90-Pound 13-Year-Old Girl At Hospital
WFTV ^ | 6/24/05 | AP

Posted on 06/24/2005 10:07:17 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

A deputy Tasered an intoxicated 13-year-old girl who was kicking and scratching two hospital nurses, officials said.

April Rene Burleson, who is 4-foot-9 and weighs 90 pounds, had a blood alcohol level of 0.175 percent and was under the influence of marijuana and the prescription drug Xanax, according to the Lee County Sheriff's Office.

"You have to understand, she was lashing out, kicking and scratching," sheriff's spokeswoman Ileana LiMarzi. "She was acting like an adult who needed to be restrained. Just because she's 13 doesn't mean she can't harm somebody."

Burleson was charged with loitering, disorderly public intoxication, battery by a juvenile on health services personnel, battery on an officer and resisting an officer. She was sent to the Lee County Juvenile Assessment Center.

Burleson was walking on the street at 2:50 a.m. Thursday when a deputy picked her up on the loitering charge. She was first brought to her mother, who agreed to have the girl medically cleared at Lee Memorial Hospital before being processed.

According to sheriff's reports, Burleson had been combative with Deputy Chad Edwards before they reached the hospital, then screamed at the hospital staff and injured the nurses and Edwards.

Burleson was shocked with the Taser in the chest, then held in four-point restraints during her exam, deputies said.


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1 posted on 06/24/2005 10:07:17 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I hate the way Tasers are being used like this. That said, once a person starts breaking the skin (scratching) she becomes a danger in this era a communicable diseases such as Hepatits and HIV.

The staff should not be expected to risk their health.


2 posted on 06/24/2005 10:10:58 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Democrat voter in waiting??


3 posted on 06/24/2005 10:11:07 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Better he should'a punched her out, I guess? < /sarcasm >

Seriously, that is a no-win situation for any male law enforcement officer. A well placed kick from a small female can do a lot of damage, yet he is expected to get her under control GENTLY, and without being perceived as groping any "naughty parts".

4 posted on 06/24/2005 10:13:16 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Why couldn't they handcuff her?


5 posted on 06/24/2005 10:14:26 AM PDT by Fawn
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To: I still care

Sounds to me like the Tasers are the least of the dangers in this little girl's life. Out on the streets at 2:50AM, drunk, stoned, and spaced on Xanax -- at 13!


6 posted on 06/24/2005 10:15:25 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Fawn
Why couldn't they handcuff her?

Scared.

7 posted on 06/24/2005 10:16:13 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

A taser is NOT the weapon to restraint someone in that state. It is a good way to potentially give them a heart attack however.


8 posted on 06/24/2005 10:16:20 AM PDT by kharaku (G3)
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To: Fawn

The Taser was to subdue her sufficiently so that they COULD handcuff her. Actually they did more than that -- she was "held in four point restraints" during her subsequent medical exam.


9 posted on 06/24/2005 10:17:23 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Fawn

Well, I suppose they could...but if you've got a girl kicking, screaming, scratching and spitting...would YOU approach her with a set of handcuffs?


10 posted on 06/24/2005 10:17:56 AM PDT by jess35
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Taser the parents.


11 posted on 06/24/2005 10:21:48 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Fawn

Why couldn't they handcuff her?

Good question. 2 nurses, a deputy, the mother, presumeably a doctor and who knows how many other hospital workers... I guess they were all too skeert.

OTOH, I'm married to a gadget freak and sometimes just have to walk away when he's trying to complicate a simple job by using a new toy.

12 posted on 06/24/2005 10:23:21 AM PDT by elli1
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To: Fawn

Because they have taken away batons....

I guess they could shoot her with their guns instead.


13 posted on 06/24/2005 10:25:23 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Sounds to me like the Tasers are the least of the dangers in this little girl's life. Out on the streets at 2:50AM, drunk, stoned, and spaced on Xanax -- at 13!

No doubt that they probably saved her life, and now media is worried about tasers. It makes you wonder why anyone would want to be in law enforcement.

14 posted on 06/24/2005 10:27:12 AM PDT by oldbrowser (You lost the election.....get over it.)
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To: JimRed

What happened to the lead Sap and billy clubs..

Her mother is the one that needs to be tasered.

Another prostitute in training.


15 posted on 06/24/2005 10:34:09 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: GovernmentShrinker

You gotta good point there.


16 posted on 06/24/2005 10:45:32 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley Rocks!)
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To: jess35

... this is really sick and I probably should not admit this... but when they show a bad guy getting tased by a cop..... I always rewind on my TiVo....


17 posted on 06/24/2005 10:47:02 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: elli1

Only the deputy would be carrying handcuffs. Really, a take down in I presume a small hospital examining room can get quite messy. And they still can bite and sratch, pull hair etc.
I just remember from a similiar incident, my shoulder will never be the same. And I wasn't Skeert!!


18 posted on 06/24/2005 10:51:28 AM PDT by tertiary01 (It took 21 years but 1984 finally got here.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Since this was happening in closed quarters they probably couldn't use pepper spray.. I really dont know what another alternative would be.. whack her in the head with a billy club?


19 posted on 06/24/2005 10:51:52 AM PDT by somniferum (All warfare is deception - Sun Tzu)
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To: tertiary01

I forgot to add that the hospital staff should have had access to velcro wrist retraints. But they can be difficult to put on a small wristed person.


20 posted on 06/24/2005 10:55:11 AM PDT by tertiary01 (It took 21 years but 1984 finally got here.)
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To: Fawn

One of the problems is that physical contact with a nutcase now almost always lands an officer in court and often in jail. Better not to touch them and to taser them instead. Thank you, insane courts of the land.


21 posted on 06/24/2005 10:56:34 AM PDT by livius
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To: brwnsuga

There was a program on the Discovery channel a couple of years ago about non-lethal weapons. An interesting side note to the show was how the futureists predicted that when non lethal force is commonplace, we will lose our right to protest. If the gubmint wants to, they just use the force needed to send you home. Pretty soon, nobody has the nads to come out against the gubmint. The weapon being discussed was a microwave dish on a truck that heats your skin. You get no more than a sunburn, but nobody can withstand the pain more than a few seconds. Finally, 1984 in the 21st century. I would think a cop could subdue a 90 lb girl without a taser.


22 posted on 06/24/2005 10:58:35 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: elli1

They don't teach boxing or martial arts in Medical School or nursing school.

I know nurses that have been very seriously injured by patients.


23 posted on 06/24/2005 11:05:50 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: tertiary01

Have any experience in the matter?


24 posted on 06/24/2005 11:07:08 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

I'm retired from nursing with my last job at the local Forensics Mental Heath facility due to this kind of stuff, the overbearing mandatory overtime, and I just plain became old enough.


25 posted on 06/24/2005 11:12:31 AM PDT by tertiary01 (It took 21 years but 1984 finally got here.)
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To: chuckles

Have you heard of the new sound wave weapons that the Israelis plan to use in the West Bank? It is supposed to emit some sort of horrible sound wave that causes headache, dizziness and nausea


26 posted on 06/24/2005 11:13:30 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: chuckles
Such a scenario wouldn't be or become such if lawyers and courts and juries weren't so sue-happy.
27 posted on 06/24/2005 11:14:28 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Obviously without the taser, his only other alternative would have been to shoot her dead.

A taser in hands of a wimp is a dangerous thing.


28 posted on 06/24/2005 11:43:04 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: somniferum

"I really dont know what another alternative would be.. whack her in the head with a billy club? "

Please don't ever go into law enforcement nor have any children that do.


29 posted on 06/24/2005 11:48:39 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: chuckles
I would think a cop could subdue a 90 lb girl without a taser.

But why SHOULD a police officer or hospital staffer risk injury when trying to restrain a wildly out of control girl who, given where and when they found her, is quite likely working as a prostitute and has a way above average chance of having AIDS? Tasering is mild compared to what often happens to 13 year old girls who roam the streets at 3AM while drunk, stoned, and spaced on Xanax.

30 posted on 06/24/2005 12:40:14 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Can I swear here? Jesus Christ!!!! I'm starting to think that our law enforcement guys are a bunch of pantywaists!! It seems like they're all afraid of getting hurt. Like they get in their cars at shift start, pray to not get hurt, then spend the shift doing whatever causes them the least pain.

If there are any LE here who are doing your job for the PUBLIC GOOD, and not just putting in time till retirement, good for you!

31 posted on 06/24/2005 12:46:38 PM PDT by blu (This post edited for brevity.)
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To: somniferum

Given the available altenatives, any one of which probably would have serioiusly injured her, the officer, or the medical personnel, the tazer was the best way to go.


32 posted on 06/24/2005 12:56:40 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: takenoprisoner
Are you sarcastically challenged?
33 posted on 06/24/2005 2:02:35 PM PDT by somniferum (All warfare is deception - Sun Tzu)
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To: brwnsuga

There is also some kind of thick foam which immobilizes which sounds pretty cool. You could shoot it all over some of these nutjobs roll em up in a ball and roll em right to jail.


34 posted on 06/24/2005 2:07:31 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

In this situation, I've got no problem at all with the Cop using the Taser.


35 posted on 06/24/2005 4:45:58 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: tertiary01; TASMANIANRED

Yeh, yeh, yeh--and hospitals have been dealing with combative patients and 400 pound patients for a long time before tasers. All of a sudden, 13 year old, 4'9", 90 pound girls are overwhelming them. In numbers. Sounds to me like we have some 250 pound, 5'0" nurses & a 5'2" 98 pound Barney Fife packing a loaded taser on the front line in health care.


36 posted on 06/24/2005 5:11:28 PM PDT by elli1
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To: takenoprisoner

Obviously without the taser, his only other alternative would have been to shoot her dead.

LMAO! (and the scarey part is that this may be more true than we know.)

37 posted on 06/24/2005 5:18:29 PM PDT by elli1
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To: elli1

I've seen a patient break a nurses jaw but never the other way around.


38 posted on 06/24/2005 5:19:31 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: BurbankKarl

When you said "batons", it flashed in my mind Hannible Lecter taking the baton to the police officer so effectively. Of course that was a movie. But for demonstration purposes, it was effective.


39 posted on 06/24/2005 5:22:25 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: brwnsuga

My daughter's CD player does much the same thing.


40 posted on 06/24/2005 5:26:58 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: TASMANIANRED

I've seen a patient break a nurses jaw but never the other way around.

My mom worked in a mental hospital in the 50's. Before Thorazine. Before tasers. And it wasn't the juvenile wing.

41 posted on 06/24/2005 7:45:14 PM PDT by elli1
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To: elli1

"My mom worked in a mental hospital in the 50's. Before Thorazine. Before tasers. And it wasn't the juvenile wing."

Are you saying your mom broke a patients jaw.


42 posted on 06/24/2005 7:47:15 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Are you saying your mom broke a patients jaw.

Absolutely not.

43 posted on 06/24/2005 7:50:02 PM PDT by elli1
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To: I still care

I would think if they're close enough to taser, they're close enough to use a 'tranquilizing dart'.


44 posted on 06/24/2005 7:58:17 PM PDT by mommadooo3 (Old concept in justice. If the law won't take care of it, it's just us.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

LOL!!!!!!


45 posted on 06/24/2005 8:02:01 PM PDT by skr (May God bless those in harm's way and confound those who would do the harming)
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To: mommadooo3

They probably didn't know what chemicals she had in her at that point, as well as not knowing her weight for dosage.

If she had died, there might be some news value to this report; but she didn't, so why does it matter how she had to be restrained? What's the acceptable weight of biting, kicking people for tasering? They must've used a low setting, if there is such a thing, since they still had to restrain her afterwards.


46 posted on 06/24/2005 8:16:25 PM PDT by skr (May God bless those in harm's way and confound those who would do the harming)
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To: oldbrowser
No doubt that they probably saved her life

April Rene Burleson, who is 4-foot-9 and weighs 90 pounds

Yeah, they have put a bullet in her brain.

47 posted on 06/24/2005 8:21:30 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Fawn

If you have ever been in a close up situation with a totally berserk person, I don't think you would be asking that question. Particularly one that's chemically induced. It defies belief.


48 posted on 06/24/2005 8:22:51 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: Fawn
Sorry Fawn, but do you expect grown Men to be able to handle a 90 pound, 13 year old, girl?
49 posted on 06/24/2005 8:27:12 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
WHAT is so hard about all this?

If the little ho want to ACT like an animal,

shoot her with a tranquilizer dart!

:)

50 posted on 06/24/2005 8:29:03 PM PDT by MamaTexan (NEVER underestimate the ~power~ of righteous indignation!!)
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