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Surviving a Nuclear Attack on Washington, D.C.
National Journal ^ | June 24th 2005 | By Sydney J. Freedberg Jr.

Posted on 06/24/2005 10:54:52 AM PDT by ExSoldier

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I got this as an e-mail and felt it should be put on the boards immediately. It is a fairly long read, but fascinating.
1 posted on 06/24/2005 10:54:53 AM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: ExSoldier

It's horrifying to think about. But knowledge is power. This could save lives, of God forbid . . .


2 posted on 06/24/2005 10:57:15 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842

of = if


3 posted on 06/24/2005 10:57:31 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: ExSoldier

tnx


4 posted on 06/24/2005 10:57:37 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: ExSoldier

Eat your lunch in a bank vault every day.

Oh yeah, and bring along a spare pair of glasses.


5 posted on 06/24/2005 10:58:04 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: ExSoldier

That would suck. Talk about a HAZMAT and everything else imaginable in the fire service nightmare if I was a firefighter there.


6 posted on 06/24/2005 10:58:27 AM PDT by Firefigher NC
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To: ExSoldier

Won't have to worry about SCOTUS making any more stupid rulings.


7 posted on 06/24/2005 10:59:29 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Yo-Yo

yo,
Great catch! Love that episode.


8 posted on 06/24/2005 10:59:46 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: ExSoldier

placemarker


9 posted on 06/24/2005 10:59:54 AM PDT by null and void (No man's life, liberty, or property are safe as long as court is in session)
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To: ExSoldier

I would grieve the loss of the Smithsonian, the Archives, and the Library of Congress...


10 posted on 06/24/2005 11:00:40 AM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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To: ExSoldier

All those politicians dead..... Why would our enemies do us such a favor?


11 posted on 06/24/2005 11:01:40 AM PDT by Lexington Green (I am a good American, so I arrested my cancer-stricken mother for using medical pot.)
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To: ExSoldier

After yesterday's Supreme Court ruling, ask me if I *care* whether Washington D.C. survives a nuclear attack?

It might be best just to scrap this whole "America" thing and start over.


12 posted on 06/24/2005 11:02:07 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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To: ExSoldier

And here is what happens next, if I had anything to do with it:

Tasking orders are sent to an Ohio class SSBN somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean.

Within 15 minutes 24 Trident SLBM's are headed to the Middle East.

Every Muslim city of over 100,000 people is incinerated with a MIRV warhead.

Every day for the next 5 days a similar atomic strike is launched on the survivors and the battle-assesed remnants of the Muslim world.

P.S. If the Muslims KNEW this would happen and BELIEVED we would do it, they would deliver Ali Kahn of Pakistan and Bin Laden's corpse and all of their followers to us post haste.


13 posted on 06/24/2005 11:04:28 AM PDT by Jonathan
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To: ExSoldier

Almost feels like someone's preparing us for an inevitability they know can't be stopped.


14 posted on 06/24/2005 11:08:20 AM PDT by Dubyous
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To: TXnMA

I know what you are saying. I have a copy of the Declaration of Independence, and that is definitely one of the finest pieces of work there is. Amazing.


15 posted on 06/24/2005 11:08:40 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: null and void

Three to five days of non-perishable food is always stocked in the GRRRRR Shelter...the only thing I don't have is plenty of water stored...but we do have bathtubs to fill.

Ammo, never can have enough of it...

G


16 posted on 06/24/2005 11:09:26 AM PDT by GRRRRR (I've Had it with the Islamofascists...time to put em away for good!)
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To: ExSoldier
And in contrast to the swift federal response to stabilize the financial markets after 9/11, the Treasury and other key agencies may be too badly damaged and decimated to intervene quickly.

No Federal intervention could save the markets after a nuclear terrorist attack. Current market levels reflect wild optimism on stilts - any sort of successful nuclear event will trigger a horrific worldwide depression.

17 posted on 06/24/2005 11:10:26 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: TXnMA

A massive counterstrike should be launched on all the jihad states, until they are no more. Then we can grieve our dead. Better yet, if reason does not prevail upon the jihad states to rein in their rabid minions, rise early and strike them first.


18 posted on 06/24/2005 11:11:13 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Jonathan

True. I love the maxim used by the marines .....no greater friend, no worse enemy. It is great being nice and all that stuff, but when it is time to gird oneself for battle then one should be prepared to obliterate the foe (and not worry about panties on heads).


19 posted on 06/24/2005 11:11:53 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: ExSoldier

Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this. Information that could save a life.


20 posted on 06/24/2005 11:12:17 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: Dubyous

It's been in a lot of people's heads since 9/11.


21 posted on 06/24/2005 11:12:22 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Lexington Green
Why would our enemies do us such a favor?

I think you forgot about the guide at the Smithsonian...the groundskeeper at the Vietnam Memorial...the elementary school field trip at the Lincoln Memorial...

You would consider their incineration a favor, eh?
22 posted on 06/24/2005 11:12:28 AM PDT by Dubyous
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To: ExSoldier
Not new info, but informational for those who have not done the research. You also might want to check out the Nuclear Blast Mapper

I gave packages of potassium iodide to all of my friends and family as stocking stuffers for Christmas a few years back, they all think I am a little crazy, but, oh well...

23 posted on 06/24/2005 11:13:46 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ExSoldier

It's just predicting another doomsday scenario unless we fund more socialized medicine.


24 posted on 06/24/2005 11:13:56 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: Lexington Green
All those politicians dead..... Why would our enemies do us such a favor?

Thank you so much...I work in downtown DC too.

25 posted on 06/24/2005 11:15:06 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: ravingnutter

Bookmark to mapper.


26 posted on 06/24/2005 11:15:17 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ExSoldier
Well, at least the IRS building buys the farm.

Nice article, but could be summed up thusly: if the bomb goes off in D.C., bad things happen.

27 posted on 06/24/2005 11:17:23 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: ExSoldier

"Assume every line of defense against nuclear terrorism is breached: "



Considering how criminally easy it was for 15 Saudis to fly planes into buildings, this is an easy assumption to make.


28 posted on 06/24/2005 11:19:30 AM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: Willie Green

this is the domestic/civilian side of things, I wonder what the military reaction would be? marshall law? we nuke every arab country in the world?


29 posted on 06/24/2005 11:19:57 AM PDT by Tiger Smack (www.tigersmack.com <------- for LSU & SEC sports/news/stuff)
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To: Yo-Yo
LOL!


30 posted on 06/24/2005 11:20:19 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: ExSoldier

"The offices of the Internal Revenue Service — less than a quarter-mile west from ground zero — ... collapse"



Well, THERE'S a silver lining to the mushroom cloud.


31 posted on 06/24/2005 11:21:33 AM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: Jonathan
What a GREAT idea. Let's just IRRADIATE and render unusable a huge oil supply. We can even call it a work of art. Title: OIL UNDER GLASS. Sorry, don't mean to sound snide. But some of the reactions to this thread are depressing. Freepers certainly seem jaded and embittered. ~sigh~

A much better solution, IMHO is to use your solution but neutron warheads. That way we can walk in and declare the whole area the 51st state, just a few days after detonation.

32 posted on 06/24/2005 11:21:56 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: GRRRRR
...the only thing I don't have is plenty of water stored...

Walmart sells 6-gallon heavy duty storage bottles in the Camping Department - $7 I think. Ours have been filled & in the garage since at the latest October 2001 with no leaks. We should cycle the water out at some time, though.

Food is in 5-gallon new paint buckets. Lowe's does not sell lids - Home Depot does. Home Depot also has orange ones rather than just white, so I bought one of those for a sanitation bucket.

33 posted on 06/24/2005 11:22:50 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: ExSoldier
Months before 9-11 my local newspaper printed a letter to the editor in which I suggested relocating our nations capital to the heartland for protective and political reasons. The heartland is the demographic center of our nation and would be the easiest to protect.

This assessment of what a nuclear attack could accomplish gives credence to the suggestion. We cannot hope to protect an eighteenth century city from twenty-first century perils.

For political reasons, I would also like to have our Congressional delegation closer so they may better serve their constituency. Presently, the bastion of liberalism is the sole region receiving this exclusive treatment.
34 posted on 06/24/2005 11:23:44 AM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: Yo-Yo

I believe this reference is to the "Twilight Zone" episode that features Burgess Meredith as a bookworm who happens to survive a nuclear attack?


35 posted on 06/24/2005 11:24:52 AM PDT by rudy45
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To: ExSoldier

I would agree but someone cancelled our development of neutron warheads.

Also our entire stock of warheads on the Ohio boats is now untested, unreliable, and I believe "down graded" to lower throw weights and warhead yeilds.

I somehow doubt that our enemies are as concerned with such things as we are.

It's actually treasonous . . .


36 posted on 06/24/2005 11:25:30 AM PDT by Jonathan
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To: ExSoldier

No more Ted Kennedy?


37 posted on 06/24/2005 11:25:46 AM PDT by Porterville (Don't make me go Bushi on your a$$)
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To: Howlin

Perhaps this is something for your ping list? Many already know much of this, but the article does contain very good practical advice in dealing with a disaster as individuals.


38 posted on 06/24/2005 11:26:31 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: backtothestreets
The heartland is the demographic center of our nation and would be the easiest to protect.

Ummmm I don't think Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols got the message.

For political reasons, I would also like to have our Congressional delegation closer so they may better serve their constituency. Presently, the bastion of liberalism is the sole region receiving this exclusive treatment.

Now THAT is a great point I never even considered! Kudos to you!

39 posted on 06/24/2005 11:27:53 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Dubyous

My wife and I have both said that same thing to each other over the past 3 years of reading various articles, watching TV shows, investigative reporting, many dealing in these "what-if" scenarios. It's like they(?) are trying to prepare the general population's mindset for the "when" not "if".


40 posted on 06/24/2005 11:28:32 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (We have met the enemy, and they are within. (with apologies to Pogo and Savage))
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To: Jonathan

"Tasking orders are sent to an Ohio class SSBN somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean.

Within 15 minutes 24 Trident SLBM's are headed to the Middle East.

Every Muslim city of over 100,000 people is incinerated with a MIRV warhead.

Every day for the next 5 days a similar atomic strike is launched on the survivors and the battle-assesed remnants of the Muslim world.
"



Then, on the 6th day, every single test and data show that the nuke was a ChiComm device and was probably planted by ChiComm or ex-Soviet agents, who are laughing their asses off at America's attack on Iran.


41 posted on 06/24/2005 11:28:40 AM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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"Months before 9-11 my local newspaper printed a letter to the editor in which I suggested relocating our nations capital to the heartland for protective and political reasons. The heartland is the demographic center of our nation and would be the easiest to protect."



Tell that to the Oklahoma City victims.


42 posted on 06/24/2005 11:30:22 AM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: ExSoldier

But, since our borders are secured, and those anti-Americans who come here and hate us are just "activists", and all Americans take this war seriously, this can't happen, right?


43 posted on 06/24/2005 11:30:26 AM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: nina0113

''Thank you so much...I work in downtown DC too.''

Then you surely know you're a target... and will not be surprised when you smell smoke.... like living in a highrise on the San Andreas.

Nothing personal. Hope you survive.


44 posted on 06/24/2005 11:32:25 AM PDT by Lexington Green (I am a good American, so I arrested my cancer-stricken mother for using medical pot.)
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To: ExSoldier

The steady stream of hot air and BS emanating from Capitol Hill also serves as a protective dome that shields DC from reality and nuclear attack.


45 posted on 06/24/2005 11:32:29 AM PDT by MadJack
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To: ExSoldier

Chilling. I think it will happen somewhere in the next ten years. Maybe not Washington, D.C, and maybe not even here in the continental U.S., but somewhere. Either that or the jihadis resort to chemical / biological weapons.


46 posted on 06/24/2005 11:33:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Jonathan
I would agree but someone cancelled our development of neutron warheads.

That would be Peanut Jimmy Carter? Nevertheless, according to my father in law (a WWII hero--Navy Cross & Silver Star-- with a Ph.d in nuclear physics and the retired manager of a nuclear power plant) it's pretty easy to get them ginned up. He says we actually had them but they were dismantled. He suspects that they were reinstituted by somebody and await use....it would be stupid not to, and Ronald Reagan wasn't stupid.

47 posted on 06/24/2005 11:33:12 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: GRRRRR
Ammo, never can have enough of it...

...a time when lead is worth more than gold...

48 posted on 06/24/2005 11:33:28 AM PDT by null and void (No man's life, liberty, or property are safe as long as court is in session)
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To: Willie Green

And women and minorities will be hardest hit!


49 posted on 06/24/2005 11:34:48 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: ExSoldier

The loss of D.C.... and this would be bad because...?


50 posted on 06/24/2005 11:35:07 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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