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Bush Shrugs Off Slump in Polls; Jokes about Second-Term "Quagmire"
AP ^ | June 24, 2005

Posted on 06/24/2005 11:52:17 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

WHITE HOUSE President Bush is shrugging off the polls showing his job approval rating at low ebb. At a news conference with Iraq's visiting prime minister, Bush jokingly suggested the word "quagmire" to a reporter asking about a possible "second-term slump."

The president says he knows U-S troops have a difficult mission in Iraq against a bloodthirsty and determined enemy.

And he says on domestic issues, he's asking Congress to "take on some big tasks." He says he's not surprised his idea for a Social Security overhaul has met stiff resistance from lawmakers.

Bush added: "This is a time of testing. It's a critical time."


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; bush43; congress; polls; quagmire; secondterm; socialsecurity; term2; texasflowerlies; wariniraq; whatmelaugh
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1 posted on 06/24/2005 11:52:17 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Anyathing said about the SCOTUS ruling?


2 posted on 06/24/2005 11:53:07 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121
"Anyathing said about the SCOTUS ruling?"

From a President that allowed the Supreme idiots to decide on CFR? I doubt it.

3 posted on 06/24/2005 11:55:03 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Americans hire Americans. Traitors hire illegals.)
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To: nikos1121


Wasn't the forum for him to make such a remark.

However, he needs to recognize the immediacy of the issue and make a statement.

He loves doing interviews on FOX, the libs think that FOXNEWS is just his moutpiece anyway, he might as well do another interview on FOX and address property rights from the view of the executive branch.


4 posted on 06/24/2005 11:58:01 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: JustAnAmerican


Allow? Checks and balances.

He's the chief of the executive branch of government remember? He can appoint members to the SCOTUS but he can't dictate what they do. Hell, he's had a hard enough time appointing judges and dealing with judicial activism as it is.


5 posted on 06/24/2005 12:01:04 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: JustAnAmerican

From a President not asked at a forum designated for questioning on foreign policy with the Iraqi PM by his side? NO.


6 posted on 06/24/2005 12:01:31 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: West Coast Conservative

After years of dissipation, the real "quagmire" is Senator Kennedy's liver.


7 posted on 06/24/2005 12:01:40 PM PDT by NetValue (No enemy has inflicted as much damage on America as liberals.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bush added: "This is a time of testing. It's a critical time."
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No s***! It a time to see if YOU will protect this country and re-establish its borders and immigration laws!!! Or will you fail your Presidential oath?

Remember, Bush one was also pro-illegals. He signed the legislation that allows up toward the millions of illegals to vote -- by PREVENTING voting facility personnel FROM ASKING if people are citizens, or born in the U.S., etc. -- as long as they produce a drivers license. This pro-illegal legistlation that Bush One signed, makes the only the barrier to illegals VOTING IN OUR ELECTIONS, your local Department of Motor Vehicles....

Is it not fair to say that the pro-illegal disease runs in the Bush family??? I would bet money on it, as well as my opinion that this is exactly why Tom Ridge resigned.


8 posted on 06/24/2005 12:02:32 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: West Coast Conservative

I heard that their would be an address by GWB next Tuesday about the Iraq war.


9 posted on 06/24/2005 12:06:01 PM PDT by listenhillary (Socialists have only killed 100 million. We'll never learn will we?)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
" He's the chief of the executive branch of government remember?

Oh I remember quite well, and he had pen in hand on CFR and instead of Vetoing it his response was to joke about it and hope that the Supremes would nix the unconstitutional parts. Now what does that tell you about him? Oh, and just in case as usual,

The Link right here on FreeRepublic.

10 posted on 06/24/2005 12:06:46 PM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Americans hire Americans. Traitors hire illegals.)
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To: All

The President was GOOD today.

I realize those that fail to recognize the purpose of the FORUM he held are incapable of acknowledging his strong defense of our military and mission today, but I am not. Instead of making this about issues it did NOT concern it would be NICE if people would realize this President's comments need to be re-inforced to beat back the treason being committed by the Democrats. But that is just too damn much to ask of anyone? Isn't it.

Bash the President for not getting the message out on Iraq, and when he does, ignore the message and deflect to other issues.


11 posted on 06/24/2005 12:07:33 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: in hoc signo vinces

"He loves doing interviews on FOX, the libs think that FOXNEWS is just his moutpiece anyway, he might as well do another interview on FOX and address property rights from the view of the executive branch."

Are you saying that Fox News was the only network covering this? That would say that the Liberal media is not taking this serious. Which is fine by me since the liberal media are in their death throes anyway as ratings indicate.




12 posted on 06/24/2005 12:09:48 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Hell, he's had a hard enough time appointing judges and dealing with judicial activism as it is.

Since I consider him to be a puppet of the multinational corporatists,
my suspicion is that he'll appoint a "moderate" who would've agreed with this decision.
Afterall, it's all about Big Government being compliant with WTO objectives.

13 posted on 06/24/2005 12:10:29 PM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: EagleUSA

FYI: fake driver's licenses for illegals are going for $50 here in North Carolina. There are 1,000,000 illegal Mexicans in my state. You do the math. Why bother voting?


14 posted on 06/24/2005 12:10:50 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: in hoc signo vinces

You're right. He needs to come out soon on this and strong.

nick


15 posted on 06/24/2005 12:12:49 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: JustAnAmerican

?????? Don't think I know what you mean? Bush needs to come out strong on the SCOTUS ruling. Like within the next 48 hours.

nick


16 posted on 06/24/2005 12:13:35 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: West Coast Conservative
Bush has a great sense of humor.

I'm sure it makes liberals explode in rage.

17 posted on 06/24/2005 12:15:12 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Soul Seeker
just give it time, this thread will mutate into a close the borders thread
18 posted on 06/24/2005 12:15:31 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("Dingy" Harry Reid & "Disturbed" Durbin are a Waste of Tax Payers Money)
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To: nikos1121

Why? What good would that do? Now that SCOTUS has made its dumb ruling, there's more pressure for reform of the bench. Hence, the Dems won't be able to filibuster his next appointment, Atilla the Judge.


19 posted on 06/24/2005 12:16:00 PM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Bush did, I feel, a great job in his first term.

He ran a great campaign for his Second Term.

Now he seems to have taken on the roll of a true "lame duck".

The only thing he seems to talk about is Social Security Reform when more pressing issues are at hand.

Again, I agree with his Social Security proposals. But the problem is far in the future, and if the Dems want to screw around and do nothing - not even offer a counterproposal - the heck with it. It will come back in the future to bite THEM in the butt.

Meanwhile in order to stablize his victory in Iraq, shore up democratic movements in the Middle East and forstall terrorism, he needs to do something about the Syrians and Iranians who are slipping non-Iraqi terrorists into Iraq to create havoc and attempt to undo our successes there.

If we pull out and the Ayatollahs and Syrian Baathists are still inpower - we lost.

He needs to address the looming threats from Red China and North Korea (and I don't mean by bribing them with food tribute to behave).

And domestically, it is infinitely more important to get strict constructionist judges in the federal courts - and I don't mean that loser Gonzales, get Bolton into the U.N. or totally drop all representation and support for it, and stop the hemorrhaging of our borders and get off the "guest peasant" program.

Finally, to soldify his gains, he should be giving positive coverage opportunities to a successor - someone other than John Judas McCain.


20 posted on 06/24/2005 12:16:55 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Willie Green


Puppet is a pretty strong word.

Remember, corporations employ people, so, too do small business, it's not unheard of for Presidents to advocate policies that are good for U.S. Corporations. (within reason) And, to a certain extent his job. We live in a free market society, not a communist state.


Seems to me, we, the USA haven't been very compliant with the WTO. Those jokers are always threatening us with tariffs and restrictions over the extra territorial income exclusion the IRS allows for business that export goods overseas.

From what I have seen of Bush, I just can't see him supporting this ruling. He should make a comment, rather than us having to guess his thoughts.


21 posted on 06/24/2005 12:27:05 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: MJY1288

Already mention made of it in the thread.

Personally I'm sick of people that moan about Bush not doing enough to re-inforce the WOT and troops, he finally does so, and then THEY talk about anything BUT his remarks, the troops, the WOT, or use the opportunity to tear Bush down rather than re-inforce the message.

Just WHO is guilty of dropping the ball on the troops now? Is it Bush that just gave a strong press conference, sent his people out there to combat the Libs (including Rove) and planning a speech next Tuesday? Or is it the pesky ankle biters that choose to discuss other topics or critisize the President.

they need to grow up, realize on this issue, this moment, they need to get behind the President if for no other reason than to spare our troops vietnam victimization and shove everything else out of the way. At LEAST in threads pertaining to this issue. If there are complaints about illegal immigration, take it to those threads. If they want comments on the land grab, go to the dozens of threads on it.


22 posted on 06/24/2005 12:28:48 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

I agree with you 100%


23 posted on 06/24/2005 12:31:57 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("Dingy" Harry Reid & "Disturbed" Durbin are a Waste of Tax Payers Money)
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To: JustAnAmerican


I can't recall a President that "didn't" sign a bad piece of legislation...the ability to attach "riders" to a bill has always been a sore subject.

I can't remember if legislation granting the POTUS line item veto power ever passed.

Still, the issues are exlusive of each other. And one is legislation the other is a judicial ruling. Just because the POTUS signed that CFR POS, does't mean he's for the SCOTUS (doesn't mean he's against it, either.)

We just need to hear a statement from W on this. It's that important.


24 posted on 06/24/2005 12:33:08 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: warchild9

There are 1,000,000 illegal Mexicans in my state. You do the math. Why bother voting?
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This is exactly why we must both get rid of illegals and stop their voting --- they are voting TO FORCE THEIR AGENDA ON THE U.S. -- to vote in a way (most likely liberal) to influence their illegal status-quo and highway robbery of the U.S. taxpayer.


25 posted on 06/24/2005 12:36:41 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: West Coast Conservative

With the non-existent action on illegal immigrants, gas prices and the five women Marines being blown up today among many others every day, I wouldn't laugh too loudly, W. If things don't improve by next spring, you surely won't be laughing the morning after the '06 election. You will be the lamest of ducks....


26 posted on 06/24/2005 12:40:46 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

::applause:::

I'm sure he feels chastened by your hate. [sarcasm]


27 posted on 06/24/2005 12:48:14 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: EagleUSA

"No s***! It a time to see if YOU will protect this country and re-establish its borders and immigration laws!!! Or will you fail your Presidential oath? "



I vote "B". He has no intentions or interest in protecting this country's borders.


28 posted on 06/24/2005 12:49:42 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: kittymyrib; All

Yes he could do better on Illegal Immigration as for gas prices what do what him to do?? Nationalize the gas industry? Price controls? As for the marines being blowned up, it was sad, however, we are AT WAR in which we did not start!


29 posted on 06/24/2005 12:51:21 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: EagleUSA

When the illegals started receiving the franchise (an estimated 100,000 voted in the last election according to a Duke study this year), then OUR votes became irrelevant. If illegal votes are considered legal, then the system is irretrievably broken. One can't vote legitimacy into a system that has become illegitimate, can one?


30 posted on 06/24/2005 12:51:43 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: Blzbba

And you evidently have no interest in preventing the Liberals from turning this war into Vietnam which would have a devastating effect far more dire than open borders on our troops and our country. If you DID, you'd be focused on the subject of the thread and the subject of the conference and supporting the comments instead of usurping the thread for your own personal venting forum on an unrelated issue that already has thousands of threads.


31 posted on 06/24/2005 12:53:46 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: warchild9

One can't vote legitimacy into a system that has become illegitimate, can one?
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Of course not. But there is more to this than meet the open eye. Many are growing very skeptical, very fast about Washington's purpose and agenda. Have the people lost control of their government? I think so -- quite a while back.


32 posted on 06/24/2005 12:57:12 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Soul Seeker

Bump.


33 posted on 06/24/2005 12:59:56 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Willie Green
Since I consider him to be a puppet of the multinational corporatists, my suspicion is that he'll appoint a "moderate" who would've agreed with this decision.

My "suspicion" is that there's nobody walking the face of the earth that would satisfy you.

34 posted on 06/24/2005 1:00:50 PM PDT by Howlin
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My comments in 31? that goes for the rest of the illegal immigration thread highjackers.

I'll leave you to a thread NOT your own that could and should be used to support the WOT policy so that you can have yet another thread on immigration that does nothing to support our military in the field. A shame our troops don't rank a thread of support without it devolving to something else.

I commend the President for actually giving a damn about them. I certainly can't say based on the behavior by some in this thread that is the case.


35 posted on 06/24/2005 1:00:59 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: warchild9
There are 1,000,000 illegal Mexicans in my state

Absolutely NOT true.

Findings
Impact of Illegal Aliens.
Table 1 shows which states gain and which states lose when illegal aliens are taken out of the 2000 Census counts. The table shows that four states each had one fewer seat because of the presence of illegal immigrants. Indiana, Michigan, and Mississippi each lost one seat in the House, and Montana failed to gain a seat it otherwise would have gained because of the inclusion of illegal aliens in the 2000 Census. California picked up three seats because of illegal aliens and, surprisingly, North Carolina also gained an extra seat. Although the INS estimates that North Carolina is home to only 3 percent of the nation’s total illegal population, the state was right on the threshold of gaining an additional seat; the presence of nearly 200,000 illegal aliens allowed it to be awarded an additional seat.

Center for Immigration Studies

The situation is bad enough without false information being posted.

36 posted on 06/24/2005 1:05:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
My "suspicion" is that there's nobody walking the face of the earth that would satisfy you.

And darn near everybody on this forum knows how wrong you are.

Here's a little reminder: "Go Pat Go!!!"

37 posted on 06/24/2005 1:05:31 PM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: MJY1288
this thread will mutate into a close the borders thread

Of course you mean "Bash Bush For Any Reason," right?

38 posted on 06/24/2005 1:06:26 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: EagleUSA

People haven't had control of the Federal government since the Eighteenth Century, if then. It's worse now, as the Golden Rule applies only: "He who has the gold, makes the rules." It's always been so, for millenia. To believe otherwise is to live in Bushbot Wonderland.


39 posted on 06/24/2005 1:11:19 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: Willie Green

As if...


40 posted on 06/24/2005 1:11:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Soul Seeker

"And you evidently have no interest in preventing the Liberals from turning this war into Vietnam which would have a devastating effect far more dire than open borders on our troops and our country. If you DID, you'd be focused on the subject of the thread and the subject of the conference and supporting the comments instead of usurping the thread for your own personal venting forum on an unrelated issue that already has thousands of threads."


I care more about America and our borders than I do Iraq, traitor. I don't give a $hit about liberals. Why the hell would I be here for > 2 years if I did?!


41 posted on 06/24/2005 1:12:30 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: Howlin

Come take a trip through my state and make a casual estimate. I think a million is an understatement. They've even taken up a dozen units of Section VIII welfare housing a few blocks from my home. Packs of them are everywhere, in the city, in the little towns, out in the country. We now have two television stations catering to them, with a third on the way.

You can't run interference for W from reality forever.


42 posted on 06/24/2005 1:13:43 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9

I live in YOUR state; and you're lying about the figures.


43 posted on 06/24/2005 1:15:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Blzbba
I care more about America and our borders than I do Iraq, traitor.

There's no need for that kind of crap.

Unless, of course, you have nothing else to debate with.

44 posted on 06/24/2005 1:16:45 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Blzbba

That is the best you can do in response to the FACT this thread isn't about illegal immigration but about the WOT and the support our troops need to conduct it?? Call me a Traitor?

Pathetic.


45 posted on 06/24/2005 1:17:20 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: warchild9

"You can't run interference for W from reality forever."


Careful - the Bushbots are getting angry!!


46 posted on 06/24/2005 1:19:52 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: Howlin

"There's no need for that kind of crap.

Unless, of course, you have nothing else to debate with."



Sorry, but as long as Bush doesn't take the border security issue seriously, I see no reason to take anything else he says re:WOT seriously.


47 posted on 06/24/2005 1:21:14 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: Blzbba

And that has WHAT to do with you calling Soul Seeker a traitor?


48 posted on 06/24/2005 1:22:39 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

I'm waiting for the official release of the statistics. I socialize with those paid to put these reports together.


49 posted on 06/24/2005 1:23:19 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: Blzbba
Careful - the Bushbots are getting angry!!

People on FR always get mad when people LIE; no matter who they support.

His fact was a FLAT OUT LIE.

50 posted on 06/24/2005 1:23:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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