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Ashcroft Gone, Justice Statues Disrobe
AP ^ | 6/24/05 | Mark Sherman

Posted on 06/24/2005 4:00:24 PM PDT by Crackingham

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To: Lord_Baltar
Wow, a man aspires to a high level of morality, and all you can do is ridicule him. Me thinks thou art a half wit. No, more like an unsophisticated Democrat.

Sorry unsophisticated Democrat is redundant. But its still fitting.

Grow up

51 posted on 06/24/2005 7:11:21 PM PDT by mountn man (Everyone brings joy into a room. Some when they enter. Others when they leave)
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To: Lord_Baltar
Wow, a man aspires to a high level of morality, and all you can do is ridicule him. Me thinks thou art a half wit. No, more like an unsophisticated Democrat.

Sorry unsophisticated Democrat is redundant. But its still fitting.

Grow up

52 posted on 06/24/2005 7:14:13 PM PDT by mountn man (Everyone brings joy into a room. Some when they enter. Others when they leave)
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To: Crackingham
I'm sure that when this story about the drapes over the statues was first reported, it was later exposed as being untrue.
53 posted on 06/24/2005 7:32:45 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: AdamSelene235

Couldn't agree more.


54 posted on 06/24/2005 7:51:52 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: Timmy
That post is so stupid as to defy belief. Don't you do even the slightest investigation before you make potentially embarrassing comments? Ashcroft was Missouri AG, Governor, and Senator before becoming AG in 2001, ... Clarence Thomas was confirmed to the SCOTUS back in the first Bush administration (1989-1992).

Ashcroft and Thomas both worked in the Missouri Attorney General's office in the mid-1970's. The Missouri AG at the time was John Danforth.

I did get the location and perhaps the relative status of the two individuals wrong. The events I mentioned are detailed in the book Strange Justice: The Selling of Clarence Thomas. You may find fault with this book, but the story is not implausible.

55 posted on 06/24/2005 7:53:30 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Crackingham

The Spirit of Justice might as well be uncovered. The Supreme Court just mooned us all.


56 posted on 06/24/2005 8:45:50 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Crackingham

"Ladies and gentlemen, I am here today to tell you that Mom was right-you really will grow hair on your palms."

57 posted on 06/24/2005 8:53:20 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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he just hated the fact that everytime anyone saw the statues they were reminded of what an absolute boob he was

58 posted on 06/24/2005 9:24:58 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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To: Figment

The statues have been there for over 70 years. They may not serve a purpose but neither does any artwork or embellishment in any goverment building. Perhaps we should just tear them all down and build cinderblock boxes.


59 posted on 06/24/2005 10:16:53 PM PDT by jess35
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To: SmithL

You are right - it was a perpetual gotcha shot. This is made even more obvious by the poster and the Libertarian Party pile-on. Pure Libertarianism as a political movement has and is the same it has been for the last 35 years - a 1% vote getter.


60 posted on 06/24/2005 10:43:31 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Ron Bonjean: "Deepthroat...Deanthroat...Dean likes the taste of his own foot.")
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To: kittymyrib
Aluminum is very appropriate for statuary casting. It requires relatively low heat to cast, is easily shaped, formed, deburred and polished (essentially with modern woodworking-type tools) , can be easily welded and otherwise repaired, and it is non corrosive.

It is not nutritious for the animal kingdom and the powder tastes horrible. But there's not much else wrong with this product of man's long-term development of the earth's mineral resource.

Aluminum is a topnotch recycling substance. It uses a low fraction of the original production energy input to remelt and reuse this ubiquitous product.

Aluminum is the most abundant metal in the Earth's crust.

Must stop for now, but I want to assert that aluminum is not necessarily 'cheesy'.

Cin Cin

skeptoid
61 posted on 06/24/2005 11:51:46 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: Figment
I liked Ashcroft.

But apparently it never occurred to either one of you for him to move a few feet away.

62 posted on 06/25/2005 6:11:14 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: AdamSelene235
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Considering who Ashcroft replaced, I'd say he did a helluva job.

63 posted on 06/25/2005 8:28:46 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: wideminded

Do you always believe a story written by leftist with a politican chip on their shoulder only because "it's not implasible"

Strange Justice was CRAP


64 posted on 06/25/2005 11:12:57 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Keep RIGHT or get LEFT behind!!)
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To: Steven W.

If the statue was already covered by Janet Reno before Ashcroft arrived, how is it that we have photos of Ashcroft in front of the uncovered statues?


65 posted on 06/25/2005 11:22:14 AM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: middie

....."Without a doubt the absolute worst Atty. Gen. since the Nixon Saturday Night Massacre."........

Uh, I think that you forgot about the Madame of Waco!


66 posted on 06/25/2005 11:29:07 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: Figment; iconoclast

"It is rather childish for you libs to judge Ashcrofts stint as head of the Justice Department on this bullshit and rehash it at this late date."

I thought it was rather childish for photographers to dive to the floor to get this angle on Ed Meese and Ashcroft. I also thought both of them were tightass neoPuritans, whose appointment to run the DOJ was the height of irony, right up there with putting Bobby Kennedy there.


67 posted on 06/25/2005 11:46:57 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: wideminded; Timmy

Oops, Timmy, guess you'll have to put up or shut up. What's not to like about the source of the story now?


68 posted on 06/25/2005 11:50:07 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: iconoclast
But apparently it never occurred to either one of you for him to move a few feet away

I'm sure they could still get the angle to have the same image.

69 posted on 06/25/2005 11:55:53 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right ; Sig Sauer is my equalizer)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Oops, Timmy, guess you'll have to put up or shut up. What's not to like about the source of the story now?

Lots. I stand by my original comment. Missouri does not have a "Justice Department", they have an Attorney General's Office. And John Ashcroft was such a moderate when he was in Missouri that the St. Louis Post Dispatch and the communist Riverfront Times endorsed him for his second term as governor, while conservative stalwart Phyllis Schafley condemned him. The story is ridiculous on its face and sounds like an internet legend, attempted face-saving beside the point. And if the book "Strange Justice" really has such a story (which I doubt - type it in here, please, with page number), it's just another stupid, leftist lie from the left-wing author.

I will not hold my breath waiting for confirmation from either of you.

70 posted on 06/26/2005 4:52:36 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Timmy; wideminded

Lessee, the original story was:

When Ashcroft first started working in the justice department, long before he became attorney general, he had a boss who relentlessly ridiculed his uptight attitude. The boss was Clarence Thomas.

It was subsequently corrected to state that: Ashcroft and Thomas both worked in the Missouri Attorney General's office in the mid-1970's. The Missouri AG at the time was John Danforth. I did get the location and perhaps the relative status of the two individuals wrong. The events I mentioned are detailed in the book Strange Justice: The Selling of Clarence Thomas. You may find fault with this book, but the story is not implausible.

It seems to me, Timmy, that your retort doesn't refute any of that. I'm not buying Strange Justice to research the issue, but I don't have to--the statements in the book are elsewhere on the net: "Thomas liked to taunt another member of the office, who was prim and painfully shy, by making outrageous, gross, and at times off-color remarks. '...He couldn't help but to needle the guy--he just liked to get under his skin,'" said a co-worker. "The target of Thomas's taunting was John C. Ashcroft,"...Another co-worker interviewed by the authors of "Strange Justice" who also remembered such episodes described Ashcroft as "a tightly wound, straitlaced teetotaler...[he] was easily flustered by Thomas." Ashcroft's discomfort "apparently encouraged Thomas to goad him further," the co-worker noted."

The book has only 'co-workers' sourced, but the authors are WSJ reporters. I tend to doubt WSJ reporters and unnamed sources. Two reasons to dispute the story right there--but you didn't put forward any reason at all in your 'rebuttal' post. You simply 'stood by your original comment,' which had nothing to do with the corrected post.

One would suppose that this would be easily verified by anyone who had seen the actual friendship between these two before Thomas' appointment hearings, which have supposedly prompted a change in his behavior. There don't seem to be many of these folks around talking on the issue. Obviously, Ashcroft and Thomas are still friendly. But this kind of thing would be hard to confirm even if they weren't.


71 posted on 06/26/2005 6:00:08 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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To: Crackingham

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72 posted on 07/01/2005 1:26:54 PM PDT by RedMonqey (You have sat too long for any good you have done. Let us have done with you! In the name of God, go!)
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To: RedMonqey

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73 posted on 07/01/2005 1:29:47 PM PDT by RedMonqey (SCOTUS:You have sat too long for any good you have done. Let us have done with you! In the name of G)
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To: MississippiDeltaDawg

The cameras are mobile. The photographers worked so that they could get Ashcroft and the breasts in the same shot. It was a game.


74 posted on 07/01/2005 1:31:42 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: RedMonqey


75 posted on 07/01/2005 1:32:00 PM PDT by RedMonqey (SCOTUS:Youhavesat too longforanygoodyouhave done.Letus havedone with you! In the name of G)
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76 posted on 07/01/2005 1:32:57 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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