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Scientology's Nut Job Founder
The Smoking Gun ^ | June 24, 2005

Posted on 06/24/2005 11:39:38 PM PDT by monkapotamus

Scientology's Nut Job Founder

Cruise a kook? Check out these gems from L. Ron's FBI file

JUNE 24--As Tom Cruise and his Scientology cohorts show Katie Holmes the religion's ropes, they surely won't be spending any time focusing on L. Ron Hubbard's wonderfully entertaining FBI file. Which, of course, is TSG's job. This Hubbard guy, the bureau documents reveal, was quite a raving lunatic (who could have imagined?). When he wasn't diming out a supposed Nazi, beefing about his wife, or complaining about being harassed by Cuban commies, Hubbard wrote to the FBI about a bizarre home invasion. Hubbard, the guiding light to nitwits like Cruise, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, and Lisa Marie Presley, told agents in a May 1951 letter about being attacked in his crib. After being knocked out by the intruder(s), the science fiction author claimed, a needle was "thrust into his heart to produce a coronary thrombosis and he was given an electric shock." Little wonder Cruise & Co. are so down on electro convulsive therapy considering what happened to this poor mother Hubbard, who died in 1986 at age 74. Here are some excerpts from L. Ron's FBI file, which we obtained via a Freedom of Information request:

Blowing The Whistle On A Supposed Nazi (1 page)

A Plea For Red Protection (1 page)

Recalling A Heart Attack (3 pages)

FBI Reviews Bankruptcy Filing (2 pages)

L. Ron's Rap Sheet (1 page)

Hubbard: No Tricky Dick Fan (5 pages)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cos; cults; fbi; gretavansusteren; idolatry; katieholmes; lronhubbard; mattlauer; scientology; todayshow; tomcruise
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1 posted on 06/24/2005 11:39:41 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

Greta's a big scientologist nutjob also.


2 posted on 06/24/2005 11:41:45 PM PDT by umgud (Comment removed by poster before moderator could get to it)
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To: monkapotamus
Did you think you could post this and not be discovered?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Silly Pitiful Puny Human!!!!! You will be DESTROYED!!!!


3 posted on 06/24/2005 11:48:58 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: umgud

This is one hell of a cult.


4 posted on 06/24/2005 11:51:00 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Brimack34

It's got it's points...


5 posted on 06/24/2005 11:52:06 PM PDT by null and void (No man's life, liberty, or property are safe as long as court is in session)
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To: monkapotamus

Hey! He was a con artist, not a nut job. The followers are nut jobs.


6 posted on 06/24/2005 11:53:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: null and void

Scientology was invented so the Jehovah's Witnesses would have someone to laugh at.


7 posted on 06/24/2005 11:55:12 PM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!)
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To: monkapotamus

I now know much more than I wanted to abt L Ron, Scientology, Branch Davidians, and especially greta, david koresh, etc.


8 posted on 06/24/2005 11:55:25 PM PDT by de Buillion (Cornyn in '08.)
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To: rock58seg

LOL!


9 posted on 06/24/2005 11:55:43 PM PDT by null and void (No man's life, liberty, or property are safe as long as court is in session)
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To: Lisa Ruby

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10 posted on 06/24/2005 11:56:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: monkapotamus
real ironic hearing Tom Cruise condescendingly defame
psychiatry as a pseudo science.....

Scientology can be called the exact same thing , and more.

What a stuck up , know-it-all , snide little hypocrite
11 posted on 06/25/2005 12:00:40 AM PDT by injin
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To: stands2reason

too much Kerbango!


12 posted on 06/25/2005 12:05:26 AM PDT by antmanbee
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To: nickcarraway

Bingo!


13 posted on 06/25/2005 12:09:18 AM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws.... SMILE!!!)
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To: monkapotamus
After being knocked out by the intruder(s), the science fiction author claimed, a needle was "thrust into his heart to produce a coronary thrombosis and he was given an electric shock."

Damn. I hope Travolta wasn't on set when they filmed that one scene in Pulp Fiction.
14 posted on 06/25/2005 12:09:22 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: monkapotamus

He had quite a Navy career also. Relieved of command twice, depth charged an imaginary submarine, and shelled some Mexican fishermen, provoking an international incident.


15 posted on 06/25/2005 12:09:45 AM PDT by kms61
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To: monkapotamus
I like this one...


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0624051hubbard4.html


Hubbard's wife claims that medical advisors recommended that Hubbard be admitted to a private sanatorium and treated for paranoid schizophrenia.

******

Psycopolitics - The art and science of asserting and maintaining dominion over the thoughts and loyalties of individuals, officers, bureaus, and masses, and the effecting of the conquest of enemy nations through "mental healing." This book was used in underground schools, contains the address of Beria to the American students in the Lenin University prior to 1936, and in training of Communist cadre.

16 posted on 06/25/2005 12:11:47 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: monkapotamus

Is elron still writing books?


17 posted on 06/25/2005 12:14:48 AM PDT by kenth
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To: injin

Set everything aside and I still never cared for Tom Cruise as an actor or considered him handsome.

Don't care for his Nicole Kidman as an actress either.

Now his first wife I really like as an actress. Can't think of her name of hand.

She hasn't worked lately.


18 posted on 06/25/2005 12:17:32 AM PDT by oceanperch (Oregon Coast Rocks. Pride of the Pacific Northwest.)
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To: monkapotamus

He once said "If you really want to get rich, start your own religion".

He did, and he did.


19 posted on 06/25/2005 12:18:04 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the ONLY option.)
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To: kenth

Sorry. Dude's dead.


20 posted on 06/25/2005 12:18:43 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the ONLY option.)
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To: rock58seg
Scientology was invented so the Jehovah's Witnesses would have someone to laugh at.

LOL!

21 posted on 06/25/2005 12:20:30 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (I don*t know what the future holds, but I know who holds the future. His name is Jesus Christ....)
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To: oceanperch

Mimi Rogers? The last time I saw her was in a recurring role on the X-Files.

BTW, "Tom Cruise," and "nutjob" turns up 961 hits on Google.


22 posted on 06/25/2005 12:22:41 AM PDT by kms61
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To: hoagy62; kenth

Yes, but the books keep coming. lol.


23 posted on 06/25/2005 12:25:48 AM PDT by bluepistolero
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To: hoagy62

Heh, didn't stop him for the first couple of years after his demise.


24 posted on 06/25/2005 12:26:20 AM PDT by kenth
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To: monkapotamus

I heard it started as a bet between Hubbard and Robert Heinlien over whether Hubbard could start a new religion. But I think that's a myth.


25 posted on 06/25/2005 12:28:17 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: rock58seg

Now THAT's FUNNY! :-)


26 posted on 06/25/2005 12:29:08 AM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: kenth; monkapotamus
Is elron still writing books?

Nope.
He became worm chow long ago, along with Buddha, Mohammed, Russell, et al.
Jesus is the only founder of a religion who resurrected from the dead.
That's why, outside Christian circles, just the mention of his name raises hackles.
Try this: Go to a party and you can talk about any religion or founders of a religion. But then mention that you are a disciple of Jesus. That's the end of the party.

27 posted on 06/25/2005 12:30:17 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: kms61

Yes that's her Mimi Rogers.

She has played some strange roles.

I liked the movie where she became A Born Again Christian but with a kook mode. The (false) Mesiah was a kid and it was all cult like.

I don't normally judge an actor on their personal life as their job is entertaining. However I refuse to watch anything connected to Woody Allen due to his running off with his adopted barely legal daughter.


28 posted on 06/25/2005 12:31:56 AM PDT by oceanperch (Oregon Coast Rocks. Pride of the Pacific Northwest.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Actually, it was started with a rocket scientist who was a practicing satanist.


29 posted on 06/25/2005 12:33:40 AM PDT by bluepistolero
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

from the story I read, it was heinlein telling hubbard he was such a crappy writer that he couldn't even start a religion.

amazing that so many celebrities will fall for a whacky, made up religion started by a hack of a scifi writer. And then some of these same people think they know enough to tell the rest of the country how to vote.


30 posted on 06/25/2005 12:37:01 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: All
The following is a fictitious ... yet, accurate account of the typical scientologist meeting.

Barney : is the scientologist

Andy: is an average guy

_____________________________________________________

Andy : Hey Barney, you need to pray for my dad, he's sick.

Barney : No Andy, your dad just thinks he's sick.

one week later

Andy : Hey Barney, you need to pray for my dad, he's in the hospital, sick.

Barney : No Andy, your dad just thinks he's sick and in no need of a hospital.

one week later

Andy: Hey Barney, you need to pray for my dad ... he thinks he's dead

Barney : (busted ... walks away)

note from duh: I do not know who created this ... but, I agree with the concept.

31 posted on 06/25/2005 12:37:34 AM PDT by DUH (a Merry Heart is the same ... equates ... to a valid medicine)
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To: monkapotamus; All
Worth reading:

Readers Digest - Scientology: Anatomy of a Frightening Cult

32 posted on 06/25/2005 12:38:38 AM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: DUH

Scientology and Christian Science are both cults but this joke sounds more like a stab at Christian Scientists who don't believe evil or disease actually exist.


33 posted on 06/25/2005 12:42:30 AM PDT by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: monkapotamus

Allegedly Hubbard was on Psych meds. Do a search on L. Ron Hubbard and Vistaril.


34 posted on 06/25/2005 12:43:03 AM PDT by Tom_Busch (Vote Bush/Cheney in 2004 -- obsolete tagline)
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To: stands2reason

One of my favorite books of all time.


35 posted on 06/25/2005 12:43:13 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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To: need_a_screen_name
Thanks!

******

In THE LATE 1940s, pulp writer L. Ron Hubbard declared, "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion."

Hubbard did start his own religion, calling it the "Church of Scientology," and it has grown into an enterprise today grossing an estimated $100 million a year worldwide. His churches have paid him a percentage of their gross, usually ten percent, and stashed untold riches away in bank accounts in Switzerland and elsewhere under his and his wife's control. Surrounded by aides who cater to his every whim, he reportedly lives on church-owned property, formerly a resort, in Southern California.

Scientology is one of the oldest, wealthiest-and most dangerous-of the major "new religions" or cults operating in America today. Some of its fanatic operatives have engaged in burglary, espionage, kidnapping and smear campaigns to further their goals. Says Assistant US. Attorney Raymond Banoun, who directed a massive investigation that resulted in conspiracy or theft convictions of nine top Scientology officials in Washington, D.C., last October "The evidence presented to the court shows brazen criminal campaigns against private and public organizations and individuals. The Scientology officials hid behind claims of religious liberty while inflicting injuries upon every element of society."

36 posted on 06/25/2005 12:44:04 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: monkapotamus

I know someone who was in Scientology and got out when she realized they want you to believe weirder and weirder things. It is very difficult to get out of it, though. First they try to talk sense into you, and when that fails, all your Scientology friends turn their backs on you and treat you like an enemy. She was officially declared a "Suppressive Person". You can't just be friends who have different religious points of view. This is one of those cults you want to avoid. Even writing negative things about them is dangerous because they will sue anyone who speaks against them.


37 posted on 06/25/2005 12:45:00 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: bluepistolero

Are you sure it wasn't a rocket surgeon, who was practicing superego bs-llistics?


38 posted on 06/25/2005 12:54:54 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: ppaul
Jesus is the only founder of a religion who resurrected from the dead.

uuumm no, Attis, Dionysus, Osiris, Mithra and Horus to name a few were all resurrected from the dead.

And they were also all crucified, turned water into wine, had 12 disciples and were born of virgins on Dec. 25


Not Jesus

Try this: Go to a party and you can talk about any religion or founders of a religion. But then mention that you are a disciple of Jesus. That's the end of the party.

Gee I wonder why

39 posted on 06/25/2005 12:57:11 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Treader

I think he worked at JPL. Name was Jack Parsons. In the end, the devil got him.


40 posted on 06/25/2005 12:57:19 AM PDT by bluepistolero
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To: KittyKares

I read the Dianetics book years ago out of curiosity. I don't remember much - it was nonsense as far as I could tell - except that it seemed to focus on the idea that the unconcious mind still hears what is said around the person, even before birth. So when your mother cheats on your dad with you still in the womb (according to Hubbard) and bad mouths him, you pick up some sort of bad vibe which is why everyone is messed up in adulthood.

He touched on this several times throughout the book leading me to believe he had some sort of wierd hangup about his adulterous mother.

You can also pick up these bad vibes while under anaesthesia if the doctors say nasty things about while you're under, I guess.

As if that's not kooky enough. I later learned that if you rise high enough in their ranks, they eventually start telling you about alien super beings, space ships and volcanos with nukes in them or some silly crap.

I really find it difficult to believe that seemingly reasonably intelligent adults actually buy into this stuff. I mean Cruise and Travolta are obviously no mental giants but they're hardly morons.. or are they?

I wonder how much Scientology has soaked them for so far?


41 posted on 06/25/2005 1:02:27 AM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (This Tagline is on hiatus as I think of a new one.)
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To: qam1
uuumm no, Attis, Dionysus, Osiris, Mithra and Horus to name a few were all resurrected from the dead.

A few hits, a few misses, but none are real parallels.

And they were also all crucified, turned water into wine, had 12 disciples and were born of virgins on Dec. 25

All of this is factually wrong.

42 posted on 06/25/2005 1:07:09 AM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: qam1; ppaul

Well, actually you will find this parallel to Christianity because the ancients were aware that salvation was to come to mankind through God's plan of salvation. Until God revealed His plan specifically to Abraham, many nations had coveted it for their own glory, and used what they knew of it for their own beliefs. Just like the Spanish found a bizarre religion that looked superficially like Christianity in South America, what these people practiced was a counterfeit of the true plan.


43 posted on 06/25/2005 1:08:14 AM PDT by bluepistolero
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To: qam1
"Jesus is the only founder of a religion who resurrected from the dead."

uuumm no, Attis, Dionysus, Osiris, Mithra and Horus to name a few were all resurrected from the dead.


But their religions are dead...
44 posted on 06/25/2005 1:15:59 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: ppaul
But then mention that you are a disciple of Jesus. That's the end of the party.

I especially like the silence that ensues. We are such embarrassments.

45 posted on 06/25/2005 1:20:12 AM PDT by bluepistolero
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To: need_a_screen_name
From the Readers Digest article: He tells them he is a nuclear physicist who was severely wounded while serving with the U.S. Navy in World War 11.

That's some kind of science fiction writer. World War 11, indeed!
46 posted on 06/25/2005 1:40:01 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: bluepistolero

bluepistolero, you kinda know stuff, don't ya? lol...glad to see ya.


47 posted on 06/25/2005 1:48:44 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: injin
My wife and I couldn't wait to see the new "War of the Worlds" movie. After watching Mr. Cruise's shenanigans and hearing his mindless pronouncements over the last month or so, however, I think we're going to have to re-think seeing it.
48 posted on 06/25/2005 1:52:20 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: monkapotamus

Remember, L. Ron is alive and well living on an island with Tommy's $.


49 posted on 06/25/2005 2:09:27 AM PDT by Oystir
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To: monkapotamus

So, ya wanna know about Scientology kid? ...

... well, there's a sucker born every minute!


50 posted on 06/25/2005 2:21:44 AM PDT by The Duke
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