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Rell Seeks Legislative Review of Ruling on Eminent Domain
New York Times ^ | 6/25/05 | STACEY STOWE

Posted on 06/25/2005 12:23:13 AM PDT by freespirited

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To: jeffers

well said.


21 posted on 06/25/2005 5:00:48 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/scotuspropertythieving.htm)
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To: IronChefSakai

I called both of my NC senators, took only 2 minutes and told them I was outraged and they said they had received many calls about it. I hope all our senators receive a lot of calls. I don't understand the seeming 'apathy' over this decision. Especially from the White House and Republicans.

I mean, they have to see the politics in this too, I thought they were professional politicians?

DUers are just as outraged as we are. (well, not quite)


22 posted on 06/25/2005 5:02:59 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/scotuspropertythieving.htm)
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To: freespirited
Robert M. Ward, a Republican who is the House minority leader, said he was "deeply disappointed" by the court's ruling. Mr. Ward said he will introduce legislation in the next session of the General Assembly in February to protect property owners from losing their homes or businesses in the name of economic development.

Too little, too late. The Supremes would simply rule that such protection interferes with interstate commerce and it would be ruled "unconstitutional". The Supremes have tasted absolute power and there will be no turning them back.

23 posted on 06/25/2005 5:05:05 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: freespirited
Blumenthal's an ass. I have contacted my state rep (currently someone named Hovey) several times via email, and my state senator (Stew McKinney's kid), and no one has EVER responded to me, not even with a form letter.

I don't know who the hell these people think they are, but I was told that I would have to hire a lobbyist to get my point across.

In this pissant little legislature with a bunch of liberal RINO idiots, I'm going to flush money down the toilet and hire a LOBBYIST?

Funny...all of their fund raising letters always manage to get to me.

24 posted on 06/25/2005 5:23:53 AM PDT by ModernDayCato (Republicans - Frittering away their majority and their base)
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To: jeffers
reAfter literally decades of deliberation, I am regretfully advising all who express an interest in this issue to initiate or increase their affiliations with one or more "well regulated militias" and to arm themselves. In my opinion, the need for open rebellion is not here yet, but I believe that this decision makes those conditions nearly inevitable in the short or medium term future.
 
from a practical standpoint this has always been a good idea, if for no other reason than to have people to call on to show up as witnesses, if anything goes down.
 
agreed with what you're saying. my point was that an online petition is gonna carry about as much wieght as an email. bupkis. deleted and ignored. very few elected official even acknowledge electronic communications.
printed paper carries more weight. a throng showing up at your congresscritters office, pissed off and hopping mad demanding action carries more weight.
25 posted on 06/25/2005 5:43:59 AM PDT by tomakaze (Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
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To: freespirited

Congress will do nothing.

I'm listening to Chris Markowski's "Watchdog on Wallstreet" radio show this morning. He's conservative, but not an extremist by any means. This morning he said that this ruling should remind us why we have the 2nd Amendment. He suggested that the people of Connecticut take up arms to prevent any further property seizures. He also stated that if anyone tried to take his property under these circumstances, he would shoot them.

I agree. And if the state does manage to seize the property, all steps should be taken--while avoiding threats to human life--to sabotage any construction activity.

This is clearly the time for such action because, as I said, Congress will do nothing.


26 posted on 06/25/2005 6:04:32 AM PDT by zook
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To: freespirited
"On Thursday Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat, praised the court's decision as "vindicating long established Democrat/Socialist efforts to destroy individual property rights for the "common good." "eminent domain principles."

There, much better.

27 posted on 06/25/2005 6:13:10 AM PDT by Enterprise (Thus sayeth our rulers - "All your property is mine." - - - Kelo vs New London)
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To: patton
See, even the evil socialists are starting to get the idea, that they went too far.

The only thing that went too far in Blumenthal's mind was his little victory dance on Thursday. I guess a few people let him know they didn't appreciate his public screeching in triumph over the thought of their homes being crushed under bulldozers and let him know it. That's the only reason he "tempered his remarks."

28 posted on 06/25/2005 6:40:08 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: traviskicks
DUers are just as outraged as we are. (well, not quite)

That's probably only a temporary thing, sadly. It takes some time for the implications of stuff like this to penetrate the fog of drug use and arrested emotional development. Once some local politician figures out that he can quickly gain a LOT of support for this use of eminent domain by taking a couple of churches to erect gay bath houses or maybe "cultural centers", the DUmmies will very quickly realize just what they can do with this new ruling and then they'll enthusiastically embrace it.

29 posted on 06/25/2005 6:46:54 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: freespirited
Since it is quite apparent that the Senate (who won't even cull its own treasonous and seditious members) will not impeach judges who violate the constitutional requirements laid upon them, then it is time to impose a limit on the time-in-office of these judges, as Jefferson warned:
At the establishment of our constitutions, the judiciary bodies were supposed to be the most helpless and harmless members of the government. Experience, however, soon showed in what way they were to become the most dangerous; that the insufficiency of the means provided for their removal gave them a freehold and irresponsibility in office; that their decisions, seeming to concern individual suitors only, pass silent and unheeded by the public at large; that these decisions, nevertheless, become law by precedent, sapping, by little and little, the foundations of the constitution, and working its change by construction, before any one has perceived that that invisible and helpless worm has been busily employed in consuming its substance. In truth, man is not made to be trusted for life, if secured against all liability to account.

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Monsieur A. Coray, Oct 31, 1823

Justice Thomas alluded to such in his masterful dissent.

30 posted on 06/25/2005 6:57:13 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: zook; freespirited
he would shoot them. ... I agree. And if the state does manage to seize the property, all steps should be taken--while avoiding threats to human life--to sabotage any construction activity.

(with all deference, guys) Idiotic.

You want your kids to be another Weaver? You wanna be a krispy fried Waco critter?!?!

WISE UP. JANET RENO WON.

You aren't going to take the 2nd amendment against Caterpillar and the Fedgov! STOP DREAMING.

Do something smart. Fight them on their level. Plant a Golden Cheeked Warbler or Gnat catching Salamander or whatever the hell on your land to gum up their re-development.

What you're talking about is Suicide by BATF.

31 posted on 06/25/2005 6:58:34 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
Do something smart. Fight them on their level. Plant a Golden Cheeked Warbler or Gnat catching Salamander or whatever the hell on your land to gum up their re-development.

Then they'd just throw you in prison for a couple of centuries for threatening the habitat of an endangered species and then take your land with no compensation. Maybe they wouldn't be able to build their CostCo, but that would be cold comfort from behind your gray metal bars.

32 posted on 06/25/2005 7:05:02 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: tomakaze
You and PAMadMax hit on the crux of this - it's another LSM news blackout!

In my travels everyone is talking about it; everyone has an opinion and they aren't shy about expressing it. But if it weren't for the Internet and (conservative) talk radio, you wouldn't know any more than a 20 second sound bite.
33 posted on 06/25/2005 7:53:50 AM PDT by rockrr (Gregorovych Nyet!)
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To: CFC__VRWC

Uh. Thanks for simultaneously getting and missing my point.


34 posted on 06/25/2005 9:14:58 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: PAMadMax

You're better off attacking this at the state and local level. I emailed Ferlo, and he actually wrote me back the same day to confirm that he will be introducing a bill in the PA state senate limiting eminent domain. I also wrote to my state senator, state representatives and city councilperson. I am also going to write to Bob O'Connor (Pgh's next mayor, no doubt) to let him know what I think of this. Finally, I emailed the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reporter who wrote this week's story on the local effects of the ruling, urging him to continue with follow up stories to keep the heat on.


35 posted on 06/25/2005 12:37:47 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: IronChefSakai

Please see #35.


36 posted on 06/25/2005 12:38:29 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: patton

Blumenthal's nickname here is Bloomin' Idiot

His forst comments that the SCOTUS ruling was good proves it, especially when he just stuck his finger in the wind and changed his opinion...


37 posted on 06/25/2005 2:47:07 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: Mobilemitter

Connecticut died long before Committe, it died before they sheep elected a RINO Rowland


38 posted on 06/25/2005 2:48:41 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon

I can believe that.


39 posted on 06/25/2005 2:48:44 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: patton

If you ever read Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations", coincidentally published in 1776, in that time the equivalent of property taxes were called "quitrent". They did operate under a slightly different principle, that all properties rights were ultimately derived as bequests of the state, as personified by its Royal head.

Still, I like the term, it serves in and of itself to remind us that noble words on parchment notwithstanding, the gov't, any gov't, regards everything as "theirs" and your claim as secondary. Aside from the taking allowed by Kelo, you ever quit paying the rent, yo' land ain't yo's no mo'.

By the way, the good lady at the base of this case had been born in and still lived in one of the houses to be taken in 1918.


40 posted on 06/25/2005 3:03:23 PM PDT by barkeep
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