Lodi imam admits calling for attacks on Americans

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | June 25, 2005 | Bob Egelko and Christian Berthelsen

[atc]

A Muslim cleric from Lodi, one of five members of the Pakistani community in the San Joaquin County city arrested by federal authorities this month, told an immigration judge Friday that he made anti-American speeches to crowds in Pakistan in the first months of the U.S.-led invasion of neighboring Afghanistan. A bail hearing in San Francisco for Shabbir Ahmed, facing deportation for allegedly overstaying his visa, provided a forum for the government to counter his supporters' claims that Ahmed is a peaceful clergyman victimized by anti- Islamic hysteria.

As the imam of a mosque in the capital city of Islamabad in late 2001, "you encouraged people in Pakistan at least five times to go to Afghanistan and kill Americans,'' Paul Nishiie, assistant general counsel of the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, told Ahmed. The witness, speaking through an interpreter, at first denied the accusation, then said he urged his audiences to "pressure Americans that they should stop the bombing,'' and finally confirmed that he told the FBI he had encouraged attacks on American troops. Asked repeatedly whether he had also urged Pakistanis to defend Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, Ahmed eventually said, "Being emotional, I may have said it or I may not have said it.'' Ahmed also testified that he has never supported terrorism and that he now regrets his 2001 speeches, and has since made speeches defending the United States to Muslim audiences. Immigration Judge Anthony Murry delayed further proceedings until Aug. 2 for Ahmed and two other Lodi men, leaving all three in jail.

[NordP]

Where is Jack Bauer when you need him? ;-)

--Answer: Stuck in a TV show! Darn.

[badpacifist]

Is it a sin to think maybe the Inquisition wasn't such a bad idea?

[SaveTheChief]

Why do we continue to allow our enemies a shelter within our own borders?

The World War 2 generation would be disgusted at what we have become.

[Cicero]

He "allegedly" overstayed his visa?

Would they say that a drunk driver's license had allegedly expired? I should think it was a pretty simple matter to determine what the date on his visa is.

[backhoe]

Crosslinked:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.

[MarineDad]

"The World War 2 generation would be disgusted at what we have become."

Agreed, unfortunately.

We really, really need to finally get with the program.

To that end, real progress would be made if this "imam" (dime-a-dozen 'slammie murder cheerleader) were simply taken out and shot.

Real progress.

[Dashing Dasher]

[Eastbound]

"The World War 2 generation would be disgusted at what we have become."

But the enemies then were clearly identifiable and easier to locate. Our enemies today are more dangerous because they have changed tactics and are now a protected species within our borders. Liberals, socialist democrats, islamofascists, supreme court justices, the MSM, the list goes on.

[SaveTheChief]

But the enemies then were clearly identifiable and easier to locate. Our enemies today are more dangerous because they have changed tactics and are now a protected species within our borders. Liberals, socialist democrats, islamofascists, supreme court justices, the MSM, the list goes on.

Are you trying to ruin my day? :-P

You do make a point that there are a lot of enemies in the war to preserve our country, and though the imams and radical Muslims are probably the most urgent, we can't even begin to catalog the damage done by socialists in America.

[don-o]

Get the panties ready for this guy!

[j-damn]

***But the enemies then were clearly identifiable and easier to locate. Our enemies today are more dangerous because they have changed tactics and are now a protected species within our borders. Liberals, socialist democrats, islamofascists, supreme court justices, the MSM, the list goes on.***

Luckily, there are plenty of bullets lying around in this country just waiting to be used.

[tertiary01]

The World War 2 generation would be disgusted at what we have become.

Why do you say this? All the WWIIs I know that are still alive are disgusted, but still don't realize that it is cause and effect. If you vote for Democrat socialist politicians which they did in droves in the Sixties and Seventies, and sell your soul for health care, you will get all the bad stuff as fallout.

The WW I generation is the true Greatest Generation, one of the reasons being they were not among those primarily responsible for the management of the Vietnam War.

[hershey]

But he's sorry he said it. It was in the heat of the moment, plus he has anger management problems, but the Liberals have gotten him therapy, and he's better now. No longer wants to blow us all to kingdom come. Have a nice day.

[Eastbound]

"Luckily, there are plenty of bullets lying around in this country just waiting to be used."

No, not bullets. I think it would be better if we could win their hearts and minds. . . somehow.

Tar and feathers comes to mind.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Here is some Help in identifying the enemy:

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Unholy Alliance
by David Horowitz
Regnery Publishing, Inc.; ISBN: 089526076X
Hardcover - 256 pages (September 2004)

In this tour de force on the most important issue of our time, David Horowitz, confronts the paradox of how so many Americans, including the leadership of the Democratic Party, could turn against the War on Terror. He finds an answer in a political Left that shares a view of America as the “Great Satan” with America’s radical Islamic enemies. This Left, which once made common cause with Communists, has now joined forces with radical Islam in attacking America’s defenses at home and its policies abroad. From their positions of influence in the university and media culture, leftists have defined America as the “root cause” of the attacks against it. In a remarkable exploration of the “Mind of the Left,” Horowitz traces the evolution of American radicalism from its Communist past to its “anti-war” present. He then shows how this Left was able to turn the Democratic Party presidential campaign around and reshape its views on the War on Terror.

Horowitz’s Unholy Alliance, writes John Haynes, the noted historian of American Communism, “is an insightful, brilliant examination of the mental world of the radical left. Horowitz shows how today’s radicals, unwilling to reflect on the internal flaws that destroyed Marxism-Leninism from within, have embraced an all-consuming nihilism in its place. This has led them to a hatred of American institutions and a solidarity with Islamic terrorists that makes the radical left more properly regarded as dangerous than loony.”

Unholy Alliance is an eye-opening book that should unsettle conventional assumptions and reveals why intellectuals and political leaders who applaud Michael Moore are no laughing matter. As Harvey Klehr, author of Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America, writes, “The world Communist movement may be moribund, but its habits of mind and ideological fantasies have not disappeared. This is a fascinating and depressing account.”

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

More on the Lodi muslims.

[joesnuffy]

Only it isn't 'radical Islam'...it's main stream Islam

Islam in it's purest form...right from the source...

Mecca & Medina and the Heart of the Saudi Kingdom

And their allies in Washington D.C.

imo

[Eastbound]

Thanks for the link, Ernest.

[CheneyChick]

They need their torch blown out and voted off the island. There is no room in this country for these types.