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Thanks for all the support for Fire Fighters for Bush
http://www.firefightersforbush.com/ ^ | June 25, 2005 | Fire Fighters for Freedom

Posted on 06/25/2005 7:17:19 PM PDT by FFforFreedom

I just wanted to stop in and say how very much all of us at the Firefighters for Bush site appreciated your support. I'm one of ten fire fighters who helped run the site. I'm still active working to educate fire fighters and confront union abuses. I posted my most recent article "The Fire Fighters Union and the Volunteer Fire Service." We've created another web site. One of the fire fighters started a young conservative’s site, another has his own blog.

http://www.firefightersforbush.com/

I was doing my research today and bumped into this thread at Free Republic. I can't tell you how it makes me feel to read your replies.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1096433/posts#comment?q=1

With your help, along with fire fighters around the country we were able have our voices heard over the liberal union leadership.

We were a huge embarrassment to them. We out performed their site. We had 2000 sincere guest book entries, while they squeaked out less than 50. You guessed it, All union leadership!

They were not ready for a confrontation with the members and non members. We did our homework and gave them a serious spanking when they decided to enter the lions den.

I know we didn't get much media attention. Harold Schaitberger heard us. He is still loosing members and taking a whipping from many who are still in.

Now his line is the IAFF and the AFL CIO need to be more bipartisan.

Don't you listen to a word of it. He's just saying he's willing to give money to who ever support their socialist agenda. He hasn't made one concession in his strategy to shift the burden of the fire service to the state and federal level.

You folks are awesome. We appreciate everything you did to support us.

I'll be stopping in as much as possible!


TOPICS: Free Republic; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: firefighters; gwb2004; heroes

1 posted on 06/25/2005 7:17:20 PM PDT by FFforFreedom
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To: FFforFreedom

Keep up the good work!!


2 posted on 06/25/2005 7:19:24 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.And we're unlikely to get a look into this t)
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To: FFforFreedom

I was present at the WTC for 9-11. I never saw such bravery as the firefighters exhibited that day. Thank you for everything, and thank you for supporting our President and our country.


3 posted on 06/25/2005 7:23:06 PM PDT by speedy
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To: FFforFreedom; MeekOneGOP; Hi Heels; Lady Jag; Conspiracy Guy; onyx; Libloather; Coop


With life long thanks
for all you do and have done!!!

4 posted on 06/25/2005 7:31:15 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: FFforFreedom

No...Thank YOU!

You folks, all of you, are great. The rest of us owe you a debt for the work you did making your voices heard.


5 posted on 06/25/2005 7:36:29 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: FFforFreedom; Zacs Mom; Liz; Howlin
As long as this Schaitberger perp runs the show, I'll not give another dime. I told my locals the same story. I, unfortunately, haven't got a call back for donations since then...

Kerry's Steady Flame
How the firefighters union became one of the candidate's most potent political allies
Nation & World 3/22/04
By Alex Markels

It may seem like ancient history now, but John Kerry hasn't forgotten the solemn late-night phone call he made in November to firefighters union president Harold Schaitberger. His presidential bid floundering as other big unions announced support for Howard Dean, the Massachusetts senator had just fired his campaign manager. And now he had more bad news for Schaitberger, whose International Association of Fire Fighters was the first and only major union to stick its collective neck out and endorse Kerry last September. "I just want to let you know that we've got some really bad numbers coming out tomorrow morning," Kerry said of an about-to-be-released poll showing him more than 30 percentage points behind Dean in New Hampshire. But before Kerry could say another word, Schaitberger cut him off. "I'm sure you've got other supporters to call," the mustachioed, 57-year-old recalls telling Kerry. "Use your time and energy with them, because you don't have to with us. We gave you our word. We'll be the last men standing."

His colleagues had been ribbing Schaitberger for weeks about his decision to buy a ticket on the Titanic, but the former Fairfax County, Va., firefighter and longtime Kerry supporter never flinched. Instead, he got together with dispirited firefighters in Iowa and New Hampshire and rallied them to Kerry's side. Many were already involved, but their signature yellow-and-black "Firefighters for Kerry" banners and T-shirts soon became omnipresent at rallies, debates, chili feeds, and pancake breakfasts. A new "Drive With Five" incentive program pushed them to bring at least five nonfirefighters to Iowa caucus sites, spurring union members like Rick Kleinman. "I busted tail," the Ottumwa, Iowa, firefighter says of the 16 people he brought. Predisposed to taking orders and following through, the firefighters "caught their second wind and went at it even harder," Schaitberger says. "We were everywhere."

The firefighters claim just 263,000 members, making theirs only the AFL-CIO's 16th-largest union. But their presence in almost every neighborhood and enhanced public respect since the 9/11 attacks have made them a powerful political asset. In a year when other endorsements failed to sway voters, "Kerry wouldn't be the presumptive nominee without the firefighters," says Paul Begala, a former adviser to President Clinton and cohost of CNN's Crossfire.

It's not just thanks to their broad reach and organizational skills. Standing tall behind their candidate on the podiums in their yellow-and-black T-shirts, "it looks like a Chippendale's calendar," Begala says of the burly firefighters. They not only elbowed themselves into the best TV camera angles but also served as security guards at many of the more raucous rallies. "It's all designed to make you realize that [Kerry] is a guy who can keep you safe and secure," Begala says. "That has been absolutely central."

For his part, the candidate is reluctant to credit the firefighters solely for his success, but "they were the predominant presence for a period of time," Kerry said in an interview last week. "They've been an essential part of the campaign." Even some Republicans have shown grudging respect. When firefighters campaign for Kerry, "you don't see `union,' you see `fireman,' which makes you feel good," says GOP pollster Frank Luntz.

Star turn. Schaitberger's strategy for political influence has long favored early endorsements. "In politics, it's always best to be a first responder. You've got to get in early or be a big enough horse to make a difference. Anything else, you're just along for the ride," says Schaitberger, who also was one of Al Gore's earliest supporters in the 2000 election. There's little doubt the relationship with Kerry has been as good for Schaitberger and his union as it's been for Kerry. Kerry supports a plan to add 100,000 firefighters to the nation's payrolls, and he has sponsored the proposed Federal Firefighters Fairness Act, which would make it easier for them to receive benefits for job-related illnesses. Schaitberger is also reaping rewards from his early decision to go with Kerry and to stick with him. Last week, he was named vice chairman of a new AFL-CIO campaign strategy committee, giving him a major role in directing the efforts of millions of union members now pledged to support Kerry. AFL-CIO President John Sweeney joked that Schaitberger will be the only union guy with keys to the executive bathroom at the White House.

Schaitberger recently fired some of the first volleys in the general election when he lambasted the Bush campaign for airing television ads depicting firefighters at the scene of the World Trade Center disaster (box). And by alleging that Bush has failed to adequately fund both new firefighters and firefighting equipment, Schaitberger has helped "change the image of how committed Bush and his team are to the security of the average American," says former Michigan congressman David Bonior, a labor studies professor at Wayne State University.

Kerry and Schaitberger are tight-lipped about their strategy for making the most of the union troops in the campaign. While Kerry says the firefighters will remain "front and center," Schaitberger says he's prepared to "do what we did last week. . . . If the Bush campaign tries to use us as a political backdrop again, we're going to be very aggressive in challenging that."

In other words, he'll fight fire with fire.

6 posted on 06/25/2005 7:48:51 PM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: FFforFreedom

It is us that owe you thanks.

The Military, the police and fire fighters put it on the line every day.


7 posted on 06/25/2005 7:50:47 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: FFforFreedom

It's our honor.


8 posted on 06/25/2005 7:52:01 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: FFforFreedom

Keep up the good work. We owe you and those like you, though, not the other way around.

I'm especialy conscious of this during wildfire season.


9 posted on 06/25/2005 7:59:01 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: TASMANIANRED
Quote:The Military, the police and fire fighters put it on the line every day.

What can I say? Thanks Again for all the support.

I will have you know that fire fighters around the country are very appreciative of the support we get from our communities. You compensate me very well for having the best job in the world.

Another Point of interest:

I attended the funeral of Master Sergeant Horrigan this morning in Austin TX. He was killed in the line of duty in combat operations in Iraq on the 16th. His twin brother is a fire fighter on Engine 3.

I was an Infantry Soldier / MI for eight years. I have never been surrounded by soldiers the likes of these. Absolute cream of the crop. Special Ops, Ranger, Delta.
This Soldier did 5 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was do to come home in July and retire in August.

His brother and family are very proud of him. In his statement during the funeral John looked into the crowd and stated,

"It's men like my brother and the men in the pues that are going to win this war. I have total confidence we will win. It may not be in my life time or my son's, but we will win!."

Thanks Again Free Republic!
10 posted on 06/25/2005 8:23:27 PM PDT by FFforFreedom
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To: FFforFreedom

I need to put someone in touch with you.

I'll be back.


11 posted on 06/25/2005 8:30:47 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: FFforFreedom; TASMANIANRED

TAPS

RIP MSgt Horrigan


Amazing Grace

12 posted on 06/25/2005 8:47:22 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ coming soon ~Operation Semper Fi ~a field hospital~)
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To: FFforFreedom
I'm on the day crew at work, and our safety and reliability performance has reached the point that in three years I've never seen real flame outside of training. (That's good too, because my real job is involved with keeping everything in the pipes.) One thing that fire school has taught me is how tough it is for the people who fight fires every day. Thanks for your efforts in your job and in showing your support for the president.

Bill

13 posted on 06/25/2005 8:47:30 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: FFforFreedom

Rest in peace Master Sergeant Horrigan. God rest & keep you.


14 posted on 06/25/2005 8:53:11 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (I AM an AMERICAN not because I live in America but because America lives in me!~Ray Cornelius~)
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To: FFforFreedom

We will never forget.

15 posted on 06/25/2005 9:02:55 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (I AM an AMERICAN not because I live in America but because America lives in me!~Ray Cornelius~)
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To: FFforFreedom
FFforFreedom,It is nice to read your post.I have 2 sons who are active and my husband is retired.My son Joe went to the NY site as the men were volunteering to go,God bless you,fatima
16 posted on 06/25/2005 9:03:42 PM PDT by fatima
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To: FFforFreedom

Salute , Master Sgt Horrigan.

A grateful nation thanks you.

Thank you for sharing his story.

Please tell his brother that we pray with out ceasing for our Military.

17 posted on 06/25/2005 9:18:52 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

I can't believe I'm just finding you.

Terrific people.

The quality and quantity of the posts one this site are staggering.


18 posted on 06/25/2005 9:34:23 PM PDT by FFforFreedom
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To: FFforFreedom; Kathy in Alaska

Welcome, FFforFreedom:

Hey, Ma!

Set another place for coffee and breakfast.

Jack.


19 posted on 06/25/2005 9:43:33 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: FFforFreedom; TASMANIANRED
Thank you, FFforFreedom, for your service to Country and community.



20 posted on 06/25/2005 9:53:20 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ coming soon ~Operation Semper Fi ~a field hospital~)
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To: Jack Deth; FFforFreedom

Coffee and breakfast served on Wednesdays. Another place is set.


21 posted on 06/25/2005 9:54:32 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ coming soon ~Operation Semper Fi ~a field hospital~)
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To: FFforFreedom

Welcome to FR! I remember signing your guestbook not too long after your site was up and running! I loved to read the forum and the other comments left in the guestbook! God Bless you and thank you for your service to our country!!


22 posted on 06/26/2005 5:08:35 AM PDT by Ros42
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To: FFforFreedom

Thank YOU for everything you do!! My kids and I take cookies to the two closest firehouses and the police station on 9/11 as a way to remember the sacrifices of your fallen brothers. It's not much, by I want to impress on my children an appreciation of those who sacrifice for them. God bless you, sir.


23 posted on 06/26/2005 6:42:42 AM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: FFforFreedom

Thank You !!

God Bless you all


24 posted on 06/26/2005 7:34:02 AM PDT by Mo1 (Democrats Sold Out America ... just to regain power)
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To: FFforFreedom

btt


25 posted on 06/26/2005 7:39:33 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: FFforFreedom; Bethbg79; MeekOneGOP

btt


26 posted on 06/26/2005 7:40:23 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: Ros42

hero ping


27 posted on 06/26/2005 4:42:52 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: FFforFreedom

I was one of your guestbook entries, and I checked in every so often to your great site. Keep up the great work!


28 posted on 06/26/2005 5:49:20 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop

We couldn't have done it with out active folks like yourself.

Thanks a million!

Thanks for all the support you're giving to our troops and our country!


29 posted on 06/28/2005 6:04:20 AM PDT by FFforFreedom
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To: FFforFreedom

Of course the above reply by myself was aimed at the great folks at

FREE REPUBLIC


30 posted on 06/28/2005 6:06:09 AM PDT by FFforFreedom
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To: FFforFreedom
I'm a former IAFF member who got promoted and now out oft he union -sitting on the other side of the table. Most of the union brothers that work for me had Firefighters For Bush signs on their personal vehicles - all except the exec board members. Direct funding to fire agencies under Clinton/Gore $0. To date, direct funding to fire agencies under Bush/Cheney $6.6B. Go figure.
31 posted on 07/05/2005 8:31:20 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: FFforFreedom

This ex-cop salutes you. Welcome!


32 posted on 07/05/2005 8:35:27 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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