Clintons Join Billy Graham for Final Revival - (BARF ALERT!)

FOX NEWS.COM ^ | JUNE 25, 2005 | A/P

[CHARLITE]

As his final American revival meeting continued Saturday, a fragile Billy Graham (search) was met onstage by former President Clinton, who honored the evangelist, calling him "a man I love."

Clinton spoke briefly before Graham's sermon and recalled how the man known as America's pastor had refused to preach before a segregated audience in Arkansas decades ago when that state was in a bitter fight over school desegregation.

"I was just a little boy and I'll never forget it," said Clinton, who was joined by his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (search). "I've loved him ever since. God bless you, friend."

Graham called the Clintons "wonderful friends" and "a great couple," quipping that the former president should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country."

Graham, 86, then launched into a short sermon that was interupted by applause five times. Organizers estimated 80,000 people had come to the crusade at Flushing Meadows-Corona Park in Queens — about 20,000 more than the opening night Friday. The rally ends Sunday.

The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain, prostate cancer and Parkinson's disease. He uses the walker due to a pelvic fracture and is largely confined to his home in Montreat, N.C. He had said previously that the rally "will be the last in America, I'm sure."

[nmh]

"It doesn't matter if you were "physically there," words are words. They mean things. A man of God doesn't even joke about a Jezebel running the country. I repeat my contention: he has either lost his mind or he is a servant of the Devil. (Remember when Graham undermined the underground church in Russia?) He sold out for benefits and pensions years ago, and genuine Christians would do well to ignore this old idiot."

It DOES matter that I was PHYSICALLY there and you were NOT.

It was a JOKE. Everyone laughed. It was said in a JOKING manner. Christians are ALLOWED to LAUGH and JOKE around. This is NOT a SIN.

He has not "lost his mind" nor "is he a servant of the devil".

"(Remember when Graham undermined the underground church in Russia?) He sold out for benefits and pensions years ago, and genuine Christians would do well to ignore this old idiot."

NO. And I suspect ONLY YOU "remember" that. What utter nonsense.

Maybe you were there ... there was an old guy holding up a sign saying "GOD caused 9/11" and another kook held up a sign saying "Billy Graham leads you to hell". Maybe you were one of those sign holders.


You really need to lighten up!

[farmer18th]

You really need to lighten up!

There's nothing "light" about hell, brother. Ignore the commentary if you want, but take a look at some of beloved Billy's quotes:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/billy_graham_exposed.htm

If you think a playful interlude between Billy and two people who advocate increased abortion is light-hearted stuff, than you are powerfully decieved.

[Fudd Fan]

Well at least SHE does.

[nmh]

No one said hell is funny.

BG did NOT advocate abortion etc..

BG was NOT plugging Hillary. It was a joke and people LAUGHED.

You're website is not credible.

I don't know why you hate BG. All he wants to do is lead people to Christ. He's very straight forward. He speaks plainly and all the paranoid website that lie about his purpose and what he actually says, won't change that fact.

[farmer18th]

I don't know why you hate BG. All he wants to do is lead people to Christ. He's very straight forward. He speaks plainly.

Yes, he grins and laughs about Hillary running the country, thus leaving thousands of ignorant, baby, union member Christians to believe that God has no say about their vote. Billy Graham might as well put horns on his head and shake a pitchfork around. You're just as bad as a Mormon defending his prophet or a Muslim defending a jihadist.

[nmh]

Did it ever occur to your self righteous critical mind that perhaps BG was trying to extend a hand to old Bill? To turn around and fly straight in a gentle way?

Do you always believe sensational websites that take quotes out of context?

I tried to help you with what I witnessed ans still you wish to believe the worst. So sad.

[farmer18th]

Did it ever occur to your self righteous critical mind that perhaps BG was trying to extend a hand to old Bill?

..if your brother sins, REBUKE him, and IF HE REPENTS, forgive him...

THAT is the Christian model--the one that Billy wants to ignore, so that he can worship his own belly.

[Matchett-PI]

"...Graham ...quipping that the former president [Clinton] should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country. ... The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain..."

Water on the brain, huh? And what excuse do those who "follow him" have if they agree with THAT recommendation?

"The point is that "compartmentalization" is, was, and always will be a pernicious myth. If you are a gifted and relentless liar in one sphere of life, you will in all likelihood be a liar in all spheres of life."

"Former White House press secretary Mike McCurry noted, according to Howard Kurtz, "The White House lies about everything; our credibility is zero." Democrat Bob Kerrey said, "Clinton's an unusually good liar. Unusually good." Barney Frank, one of the president's most vociferous defenders, lamented that he wished the president just "would stop" lying. The New York Times was vexed by the president's "mysterious passion for lying" and penchant for "lying about his lies." About the president's tendency to lie, Robert Reich regretted "not simply the fact of it ... but its passionate intensity." The New Republic's Andrew Sullivan noted of Bill Clinton that "from the beginning, Clinton has lied with indiscriminate abandon. He has lied about genocide and he has lied about his golf scores." He adds, "Every label he has attached to himself, every public position he has taken, has smacked of opportunism, not conviction, self-interested deceit, not public-interested candor."

"Another trait the Clinton's have in common, Milton found, is their ability to avoid the truth. "They both lie, even when they don't have to," Milton told CNS."

Al Jazeera Impressed by Hillary Iraq Trip. November 29, 2003 - Here also.

Arab News

Hillary Clinton: "We're Going to Take Things Away From You on Behalf of the Common Good" And HERE

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"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society." ~ Hillary Clinton

[ClancyJ]

Why would you think that some thought they needed a gay highschool?

Surely there are not gay youngsters? Surely there are not teens having problems with realizing that they have not developed the same interest in the opposite sex as their friends?

So, unless there are young teens that are having problems of some sort - just don't see the question would even come up. Who would attend? Those seeking depravity as a lark? Those wanting their peers to mock them and call them .>>>>>>.

Just which teenager would choose to go to a school full of gayness? Why they would be the laughing stock of all their peers.

[ClancyJ]

The Clintons have no class, have never had class and never will have class. So, realize that it was the Clintons taking advantage of an opportunity to sway voters that maybe they too have religion and the good will of Billy Graham.

Just why is Billy Graham to use his event to bring people to the Lord as a time to take jabs at a former president. Not his style and not the time or place.

[ExSoldier]

You know, Barry Goldwater went liberal in the final years of his life and so did George Wallace. I wonder if getting ancient and close to the doorway to the next world does that to you? I sure hope not. Pat Robertson's not that way. Neither is Pat Boone.

[ClancyJ]

Where have you been for the last 40 years? This man is respected for a very good reason. Don't you think that evil would have appeared before this one quip?

And what have you done for the last 40 years?

This is one minister that has shown by his life that he is the real thing. You may not agree with his beliefs but he is sincere and doing all in his power to work for His Lord. While many here just try and destroy that reputation.

Let me see - now which is doing more for God - the one spreading his word to millions or the one trying to destroy the man's reputation?

[ClancyJ]

genuine Christians would do well to ignore this old idiot.

And listen to your view of Christianity that says a man reaching millions of people with God's grace and love over a 50 years period is Satan?

Don't think so.

[WKUHilltopper]

Funny how they've recently "found" religion. I'm thinking Bill thinks he might get lucky there and Hilliary is just whoring for votes...

[lolhelp]

Yes, he overheard his Mother and her pals at the local bar in Hot Springs, Ar. talking about it.

[ClancyJ]

I've always noticed so many professed Christians just love the part about rebuking others, chastising, destroying their efforts.

But, funny thing, I have never heard from them any emphasis on God's love, His grace, the fact that He gave His Son to die for our sins that we may believe Jesus is the Son of God, repent of our sins, be baptised for the remission of those sins and rise to walk through life with Jesus.

Just how do you show your listerners the love of Jesus for us? Or do you just show them their sins only?

[Dawgreg]

Goodness farmer, I would never think of Billy Graham as an evil man.........no way, no time. (Could you have possibly meant Billy Clinton?). Very poor choice of a quip saying what he did.......but not shallow or evil.

[lolhelp]

Is it alright if we just choose to ignore old fools like you instead?

[farmer18th]

Is it alright if we just choose to ignore old fools like you instead?

Sure. Let Hillary run the country, if those are the fools you prefer.

[farmer18th]

Goodness farmer, I would never think of Billy Graham as an evil man

Why do you think the Lord used "wolf in sheep's clothing" as a metaphor for many "leaders" we endure as Christians?

Hmm??

[farmer18th]

And listen to your view of Christianity that says a man reaching millions of people with God's grace and love over a 50 years period is Satan?

Kindly point to the fruits of Billy Graham's ministry? Are families more, or less, committed to each other, since the advent of Billy? Is divorce more, or less common? Is entertainment more, or less, God-centered? Are our politicians more, or less, righteous? Are we in the courts, suing each other, more or less?

Which Jesus has Billy been preaching? The kind that would smile and joke with a Hillary and Bill that advocate the murder of children in the womb?

Billy Graham is a full-fledged viper, a whited sepulcher, a wolfe in sheep's clothing--as he manifestly proved this morning.

[jos65]

WORTH REPEATING:

"It's sad because he's such a legend," St. Louis said. "When you think of Billy Graham, you think of a lot of things a Christian should be."...and somehow it's NOT Hillary and Billary.

[TommyDale]

Two blasphemies in one sentence. Joke or not, I am convinced that Billy Graham has lost his mind to senility, so I won't take him seriously. However, giving such a boost to Hillary Clinton's candidacy in 2008 has me convinced that the Graham family/organization has benefitted financially from the Clintons in some way. I have lost all respect for the Graham Ministries.

[skeptoid]

Regarding Grahams comments about Clinton in '98:

Here's a story from the 3-6-98 Rock Mountain News:


`I THINK THE LADIES JUST GO WILD OVER HIM' GRAHAM SAYS HE FORGIVES CLINTON
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Denver Rocky Mountain News; 3/6/1998; Peter Ramjug; Reuters



Peter Ramjug; Reuters
Denver Rocky Mountain News
03-06-1998
`I THINK THE LADIES JUST GO WILD OVER HIM' GRAHAM SAYS HE FORGIVES CLINTON

Saying that President Clinton has a personality that makes women ``go wild,'' the Rev. Billy Graham said Thursday he would forgive the president if he were found to have had sex with a former White House intern and told her to lie about it.
Graham, in an interview for NBC's Today show, said: ``I forgive him . . . because I know the frailty of human nature, and especially a strong vigorous young man like he is. . . . He has such a tremendous personality ...

the URL: http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp?docid=1P1:5637643&refid=ink_tptd_np&skeyword=&teaser=

[Brian Allen]

Mileage?

BUMPping

[Brian Allen]

<< What a shameful, sad end to a ministry that started with such fire and promise, then veered into deepening and damaging compromise.

Graham's friendship with the world is a cautionary tale. >>

Indeed.

Inspired.

The man who will stand for everything will fall for anything!

Blessings -- Brian

[CHARLITE]

"``I forgive him . . . because I know the frailty of human nature, and especially a strong vigorous young man like he is. . . . He has such a tremendous personality ..."

That does it! I KNEW that there was yet another reason for why I put "BARF ALERT" on this post!

...lordy, lordy......Was Billy Graham already losing a portion of his marbles back in 1998?.......or has he always been this mushy on moral and ethical matters?

I recall that he was "caught on tape" making serious anti-semitic remarks during a private meeting with Richard Nixon.........so possibly Billy G. is a .......can we say "panderer" to the politically high and mighty?

Char

[Dawgreg]

I can think of several and Billy Graham is NOT one of them. Yes, I AM familiar with the "wolf in sheeps clothing" that the Lord used but at the risk of being sued, I would name a few that fit that perfectly. *~*

[DogBarkTree]

Oh, Billy. You bring out two of the toughest things about being a Christian. Forgiveness and loving your enemy are not easy things to do. Im not ready to love my enemy but considering your age I find it east to forgive you for what you said about the Clintoons.

[potlatch]

I guess Rev Graham has to show 'love' to everyone but wish he hadn't overdone it so much!

[hineybona]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH that was a heavy hit bro
Amazing isnt it ? If Bush was there the Dems would be going INSANE over the mix of religion and politics..Bush and his theocracy ..But it's Klinton ..so it's just beautiful..Frauds , the lot of them..

[hineybona]

oh no doubt..Ole Bill will try to put his arm round Jesus Himself..

[hineybona]

Clinton is a media slut..No better than a Times Square hooker..

[MHT]

DRUDGE'S LATEST POSTS HAS GRAHAM SAYING, "LET HILLARY RUN THE COUNTRY"--!!!!!!!!

Has this old man lost it? Can't he tell good from evil anymore? Has he become an old fool who can't tell when he's being used? Will flattery even disarm the man who has done more to spiritually lead Protestant America than any other man in the 20th century?

[floriduh voter]

Billy Graham never in his entire career was in a room or even an elevator alone with a woman. Quite the opposite with Bubba. I think Bubba's heart problems scared the daylights out of him but Hillary's still dangerous. Graham was just being polite about her being president.

[hineybona]

I dont trust most of these stadium style preachers..The ego is the last thing to go before REAL spiritual growth is achieved. Few of these guys get past it..

[ntnychik]

Last week, in an interview with NBC's Brian Williams, Billy Graham told him it would probably surprise people to know that both sides of his family were proud democrats. He did not say how he is registered or how he votes. I would see him as more Zell-like, too, if he is a "D".

[Captain Peter Blood]

Seeing the Clinton's up there on the same podium with Billy Graham doing their phony holding hands routine, etc., made me want to throw up. The Hypocrisy of the whole thing has tarnished Billy Graham's farewell Evangelical Tour.
That whole unreal and surreal scene was just way too much and should really show and expose the Clinton's for the real two faced phonies they are.

[ntnychik]

Did it ever occur to your self righteous critical mind that perhaps BG was trying to extend a hand to old Bill? To turn around and fly straight in a gentle way?

In that interview with Brian Williams last week, he said when he gets to heaven he hopes he'll learn the answer to this mystery: John Kennedy once asked him to go back to the White House with him in the presidential limousine. He wanted to talk with Billy. Billy had a bad cold, and declined, thinking it would be very bad to get germs all over the leader of the free world. He asked for a raincheck, which JFK agreed to. Kennedy was assassinated shortly thereafter. This lost opportunity has weighed on Billy's mind for 42 years. It may be a clue to his tolerance of Bill & Hillary. That, and being a gentleman.

[Theodore R.]

Why would that surprise anyone, Mr. Graham being from NC and being born in 1918? Of course, the odds were 90 percent that both sides of his family were Democrat.He has said that he is a egistered Democrat, and cites the NC heritage, but insists that he votes "the man."

[Theodore R.]

Goldwater and Wallace were pandering to get liberal Democrats to say something nice about them. Moynihan often praised Goldwater, and even Shirley Chisholm went to AL and tried to console the suffering Wallace.

[CHARLITE]

"That whole unreal and surreal scene was just way too much and should really show and expose the Clinton's for the real two faced phonies they are."

Not to mention TACKY beyond belief, despite the multi-million $$$ they made from selling two fraudulent, "lying liars and the lies they tell"...books.

You got it exactly right, Peter Blood. Right on the mark.

Thanks for your comments.

Char :)

[My2Cents]

(Someone had to post it.)

[nmh]

BG has been a friend to both sides of the aisle.

Perhaps I think to highly of the man but I believe he wanted to influence Republicans and Democrats alike into more Christ like ideals. You will not be persuasive in trying to influence someone if you are antagonistic and reveal partiality so obviously.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain..."

At least the writer of the article has a sense of humor. Obviously Graham has lost his mind in his old age.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain" That explains it.

6 posted on 06/25/2005 11:39:48 PM EDT by spycatcher

Ditto.

[ladyinred]

Graham called the Clintons "wonderful friends" and "a great couple," quipping that the former president should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country."

I lost all respect for Billy Graham after reading this outrageous comment in the paper today. The Clinton's are of course suddenly pretending to be Christians, and now I wonder about Graham too.

[Irish Queen]

Bill and Hillary remind me of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11. Read it for yourself. But just to tease your curiosity is verse 10 ...
"Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband."

[Bellflower]

Christians pray that God binds what BG has been duped into releasing.

[MudSlide]

I guess if you hang out with the No. 1 preacher for awhile that makes up for all the blow jobs you got in the White House

Dress up the legacy

Put all the lipstick on a pig you want at the end of the day you still got a pig