Posted on 06/25/2005 9:55:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - During a tour of the U.S. prison for suspected terrorists on Saturday, House Republicans and Democrats, including one who has advocated closing the facility, said the United States has made progress in improving conditions and protecting detainees' rights.
The U.S. lawmakers witnessed interrogations, toured cellblocks and ate the same lunch given to detainees on the first congressional visit to the prison for suspected terrorists since criticism of it intensified in the spring. A Senate delegation also was visiting this weekend.
"The Guantanamo we saw today is not the Guantanamo we heard about a few years ago," said Rep. Ellen Tauscher (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif.
Still, lawmakers from both parties agree more still must be done to ensure an adequate legal process is in place to handle detainee cases. In the meantime, said Rep. Joe Schwarz, R-Mich., "I think they're doing the best they can to define due process here."
Republicans and Democrats alike fear the prison at the U.S. Navy base in eastern Cuba is hurting the United States' image because of claims that interrogators have abused and tortured inmates. The White House and Pentagon say conditions are humane and detainees are well-treated.
Lawmakers wanted to see for themselves.
After getting a classified briefing from base commanders, the House delegation ate lunch with troops — the same meal of chicken with orange sauce, rice and okra that detainees were served. They then toured several of the barbed-wire camps where detainees are housed, viewing small cells, dusty recreation yards and common areas.
From behind one-way mirrors, lawmakers watched interrogators grilling three individual terror suspects. None of the interrogators touched detainees.
In one session, they questioned a man who defense officials said was a Saudi national and admitted al-Qaida member who was picked up in Afghanistan and knew nine of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers. In another, a female interrogator took an unusual approach to wear down a detainee, reading a Harry Potter book aloud for hours. He turned his back and put his hands over his ears.
At a communal camp for those given privileges because of good behavior, bearded detainees in white frocks, flip-flops and skull caps quietly lingered near lawmakers, although from behind fences. Later, the detainees played soccer.
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (news, bio, voting record), D-Texas, is one of many Democrats who have called for an independent commission to investigate abuse allegations and have said the facility should close. She said she stood by that position, but acknowledged, "What we've seen here is evidence that we've made progress."
The chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Duncan Hunter (news, bio, voting record), R-Calif., questioned the criteria for determining when a detainee can be released. "Perhaps the standard's been too liberal," he said, noting that some of those released have returned to the battlefield.
The White House and Pentagon have defended their policies at the prison almost daily in recent weeks.
At a news conference last week, the president went so far as to invite journalists to visit the prison and see that the allegations were false. The Pentagon says about 400 news organizations have toured the prison since it opened.
A small press contingent joined House lawmakers on this weekend's trip. However, military escorts controlled how much journalists were able to see and hear.
On a tour of one camp occupied by detainees considered "high value" for providing intelligence, detainees in cells were clearly upset at the sound of visitors, shouting foreign words and pounding on closed doors while journalists entered an interrogation room — empty except for a set of handcuffs, a folding chair, a small table and two padded office chairs.
Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, commander of the joint task force at Guantanamo Bay, said he's made transparency a priority. "It's probably my best, our best opportunity to set the record straight," he said.
Last week, human rights investigators for the United Nations urged the U.S. to allow them inside to inspect the facility. They cited "persistent and credible" reports of "serious allegations of torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of detainees" as well as arbitrary detentions and violations of rights.
In response, Vice President Dick Cheney told CNN on Thursday that the detainees are well treated, well fed and "living in the tropics."
The prison on the base in eastern Cuba opened in January 2002 to house foreigners believed to be linked to al-Qaida or the ousted Taliban in Afghanistan. U.S. officials hoped to gather intelligence from the detainees after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001.
Bush declared the detainees "enemy combatants," affording them fewer rights than prisoners of war under the Geneva Conventions. Some detainees have been held for three years without being charged with any crimes.
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On the Net:
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In this image reviewed by the U.S. Military, Rep. Ken Calvert, R-Calif., is served a typical enemy combatant detainees meal by an unidentified mess hall worker at Camp Delta, Saturday, June 25, 2005 at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba. The lunch meal included bread, a chicken breast in orange sauce, rice and okra. (AP Photo/Haraz Ghanbari)
They'll just say Bush ordered it "cleaned up" because they were coming.
In this image reviewed by the U.S. military, Reps. Ellen Taucher, left, D-Calif., and Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., arrive at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Saturday, June 25, 2005. The two members joined 14 other members of Congress in a one day tour of the base and detention operations for enemy combatants. (AP Photo/Haraz Ghanbari)
In this image reviewed by the U.S. Military, a standard cell with standard-issue items is shown at Camp V, Saturday, June 25, 2005 at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba. (AP Photo/Haraz Ghanbari)
In this image reviewed by the U.S. Military, a Koran is shown in a detainee cell at Camp Delta, Saturday, June 25, 2005 at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba. (AP Photo/Haraz Ghanbari)
In this image reviewed by the U.S. Military, ankle handcuffs are shown locked to the chair and floor in an interrogation room at Camp V, Saturday, June 25, 2005 at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba. (AP Photo/Haraz Ghanbari)
Will they be back in time for tomorrows Sunday Talk shows?
Is this the woman who wants more hurricanes named Aiysha?
How would they know, this is their first visit. Democrats will will simply find something else to undermine this war, I read earlier that some Leftist anti-war group is claiming the battle for Falluja was nothing short of genocide and thay are demanding an international investigation
LOL
They are predictable. They'll find ways to twist what they saw, they always do. ;-)
And I believe she is the one who asked NASA if the Mars Rover could visit the flag we placed there when the Neil Armstrong planted the flag there in the late 1960's :-)
"The Pentagon says about 400 news organizations have toured the prison since it opened."
Yes, this kind of public scrutiny always happened in the gulags, too. Oh, wait. . . .
It's telling that they wait until AFTER they have mouthed off to see the "conditions" first-hand.
The tandoori chicken is now served at a proper temperature to prisoners at Guantanamo.
I thought that was Cynthia McKinney. She was probably making sure the flag wasn't on her property.
Served on the finest china dinnerware and eaten with sterling silver cutlery.
The lib dems and their dumb bunny buddies sure seem to be doing all they can to try to breed new terrorists. But I think the country is beginning to see who and what they really are and what they're really up to.
I'm not sure, I thought it was S.J. Lee, but I could be wrong,
Looks like the Dems are trying to get into CYA mode in time for the '06 elections.
Tandoori chicken?
What if the detainees get heartburn?
God, we really are barbarians, aren't we? This neglect and abuse has to stop now!
(sarcasm off)
You're exactly right!
maybe they shouldn't have been so ready to believe the propaganda.
I actually didn't believe that and thought it was a joke... lol
Please...
The article also said that over 400 news organizations have visited Gitmo since Abu Ghraib...
Have you seen anything good on it?
If you want to see Media Bias in action see this thread:
Iraq insurgents snatch victory from defeat
Actually the insurgents, about 100 , suffered at least 10 dead and 40 captured in their battle with Iraqi Policemen.....no Americans got there to help.
"... on the first congressional visit to the prison ..."
Can anybody explain how the "lawmakers" can say the conditions have improved - when this was their first visit to Gitmo ..?? Amazing!
What a disgrace,our representative are more worried about the well being of our enemy,than protecting the people of the U.S.A.!
"not the Guantanamo we heard about a few years ago"
Disgusting. The same crap has been flung on Gitmo clear up until last week, when the idiots were calling for it's closure.
What "we heard about a few years ago" was the lies of the detainees, and the baseless leftist denunciations from Amnesty International and International Red Cross.
NOTE: Will someone finally place these organizations in the same barrel of non-credibility as the ACLU and the NAACP? We should not have to pay attention to these jerks ever again!
What you heard, Rep. Tauscher and your minority, leftist Democrat congresspeople, was EXACTLY what you wanted to hear.......all of it coming from professional US detractors. The US military also provided information about Gitmo over all this time, but you chose to ignore that in favor of those whose credibility was, or had already been, proven nonexistent.
You have been exposed for what you are: gullible dupes of a flawed liberal ideology. When you make noises, now that you know, about how Gitmo isn't near as bad as it was, you're half-right. Gitmo is definitely fine. That's the half you know now. But, "as bad as it WAS"?.....you NEVER knew what you were talking about then, and just realizing that now does not undo the damage that all your constant carping about Gitmo has done to the US around the world.
No, you ignorant Democrats, you have to make public statements about how wrong the information you have so foolishly been relying on, has been all along, and then you have to EAT CROW!
You know why you've had to do that time after time? Because you fools are always wrong! George Bush and the Repubs own you, and always will, until you smarten up some.
Shiela Jackson-Lee.....a great big, fat, garrolous, black woman who filters everything through that big chip on her shoulder. Put her in that barrel I mentioned above, if she'll fit.
Good Point. They just know...like Tom Cruise.
Guantanamo Conditions Improve
Improved from what?! - The Nazi camps Dick Durbin saw?
Come-on these politicians are full of $#!T. One minute Americans are Nazi and the next we are wonderful keepers of religious terrorist- which is it? Someone in the media should make a democrat answer that question.
Holtz
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