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Don't worry, Old Glory can take the heat
http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn26.html ^ | June 26, 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/26/2005 2:47:31 AM PDT by mal

The House of Representatives passed a constitutional amendment on flag burning last week, in the course of which Rep. Randy ''Duke'' Cunningham (Republican of California) made the following argument:

''Ask the men and women who stood on top of the Trade Center. Ask them and they will tell you: Pass this amendment."

Unlike Congressman Cunningham, I wouldn't presume to speak for those who died atop the World Trade Center. For one thing, citizens of more than 50 foreign countries, from Argentina to Zimbabwe, were killed on 9/11. Of the remainder, maybe some would be in favor of a flag-burning amendment; and maybe some would think that criminalizing disrespect for national symbols is unworthy of a free society. And maybe others would roll their eyes and say that, granted it's been clear since about October 2001 that the federal legislature has nothing useful to contribute to the war on terror, and its hacks and poseurs prefer to busy themselves with a lot of irrelevant grandstanding with a side order of fries, but they could at least quit dragging us into it.

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To: mal

What would happen if someone tried to burn one of those "rainbow flags" the queers are always waving?


41 posted on 06/26/2005 11:21:23 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism kills)
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To: djf
Not meaning any disrespect, I have always felt that if there was a time for me to burn a flag, it would be when some clown passed a law saying I can't.

I like that sentiment! Although let us not forget that Old Glory will always remain the symbol of freedom-loving Americans; the clowns who pass such laws have never earned the right to claim the flag as their symbol.

That said, I understand how you meant it, and again, I like your sentiment.

42 posted on 06/26/2005 11:39:16 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (The U.S.A. is here to stay--better move out of our way!)
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To: Cowboy Bob
What would happen if someone tried to burn one of those "rainbow flags" the queers are always waving?

You would get thuapped.

43 posted on 06/26/2005 11:43:09 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Smile-n-Win
...the clowns who pass such laws have never earned the right to claim the flag as their symbol.

Well said. Thank you.

44 posted on 06/26/2005 11:45:33 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Now that . . . . would be a hate crime.


45 posted on 06/26/2005 11:46:58 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: No Dems 2004

Maybe some Freepers don't understand the issue. Congress is challenging SCOTUS for overturning its laws. This is a battle against judicial activism as much as it about the flag.


46 posted on 06/26/2005 12:13:41 PM PDT by kabar
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To: mal

>> "The right should understand that the battle of ideas is won out in the open." <<

Of course, few are as well armed for that battle as is Mark Steyn.


47 posted on 06/26/2005 12:15:05 PM PDT by sd-joe
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To: mal

I think Steyn was mistaken. I think "Duke" Cunningham was talking about the firemen and cops who stood on the ruins of the trade center, not the ones who died.


48 posted on 06/26/2005 12:20:09 PM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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To: Oldexpat

I can buy a Q'u'ºr'a''¿'n'¡" today and soak it gasoline and add a match and no government official can say "boo."


49 posted on 06/26/2005 1:01:34 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: mal

I think I'm going to replace all my Stars 'n Stripes with the Gadsden flag. The SnS, in my opinion, is fast becoming the Government Flag, not the flag of our nation. The Supreme Court robed tyrants, for instance, fly it all over the place as a symbol of their power to destroy liberty.


50 posted on 06/26/2005 1:03:23 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: StonyBurk

That was the biggest non sequitur I've ever seen.

Do you know the result of bombing buildings is worse than damage to one's FEEEEEEEEELINGS?


51 posted on 06/26/2005 1:03:58 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: stands2reason

Its all symbolic -why the Yankees are allready putting up new buildings where the old worn out one was standing-price of progress don'tcha know. Buildingsa aint nothin'


52 posted on 06/26/2005 1:06:43 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I am? And to what purpose?


53 posted on 06/26/2005 1:08:26 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: Sloth

And I thought conservatives were against thought crimes and the "right" to not be offended.


54 posted on 06/26/2005 1:13:31 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: StonyBurk

If you own the building, you can do what you want with it.

Maybe you FEEEEEEL differently.


55 posted on 06/26/2005 1:16:17 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: leadpenny

Back in 1969 when I was assigned my first "flag duty " at
Ft.Campbell KY Our school Commander had the foresight to
borrow from the USMC a little pamphlet titled How to respect and display OUR FLAG .NAVMC6915 (Rev.3-68) One of the few documents I've kept (another was the treasonous
Living at peace in a world without War State Dept. Document 7277 that set forth the three stage plan to disarm the US Military and Build up the United Nations in surrender of our national sovereignty. THe US Flag Code title 36,U.S.C.
chapter 10 As amended by P.L. 344, 94th Congress approved
July 7,1976 Seems our government corrupt as it has been
allowed get does have some disagreement with your opine that it is impossible to define. It's not su much about protectiong our flag as it is about correcting our oligarchy of Depsots who declared a despicable act to be
protected speech.Which it is NOT.


56 posted on 06/26/2005 1:20:08 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: Dog Gone
How does Steyn do it, week after week?

These are the similar thoughts on the flag amendment I have been mulling around in my head for the past month or so but have not been able to coherently organize and voice. He does it so perfectly!

57 posted on 06/26/2005 1:30:28 PM PDT by Gritty ("When a flag gets burned, that's not a sign of its weakness but of its strength" - Mark Steyn)
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To: kabar

Years ago, before I left home, we were driving somewhere after dark.

My father, who was a Korean war veteran, saw a flag on a post, even though you could hardly see it.

He went absolutely ballistic! He stopped, and wrote a note, and left it there, threatening the guy!

I guess according to his military training or whatever, he thought it was a severe breach of protocol to have a flag out at night and not have a light on it. Man, he was pizzed!


58 posted on 06/26/2005 1:40:12 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: StonyBurk
It's not su much about protectiong our flag as it is about correcting our oligarchy of Depsots who declared a despicable act to be protected speech.Which it is NOT.

I couldn't agree more. SCOTUS overturned two laws, one state and one federal, by a 5 to 4 vote in the name of free speech. The fact that they sided with William Kuntsler makes it just that much worse. Something needs to be done about this judicial tyranny.

59 posted on 06/26/2005 3:47:32 PM PDT by kabar
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To: mal

Well I have found something I disagree with Steyn on. Leave your paws off my flag. It might not matter to some, but it matters to many vetrans, and frankly they are the only ones whose opinion matters on this issue to me. My dad is one of them. Find some other way to express your displeasure and leave the flag alone.


60 posted on 06/26/2005 4:03:00 PM PDT by lawgirl (Please support me as I walk 60 miles in 3 days to support breast cancer research! (see my profile!))
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