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Clinton Honors Graham at Final Revival
Yahoo AP ^ | 06/26/05 | RACHEL ZOLL, AP Religion Writer

Posted on 06/26/2005 10:07:04 AM PDT by Josh in PA

Clinton Honors Graham at Final Revival

NEW YORK - As his final American revival meeting continued Saturday, a fragile Billy Graham was met onstage by former President Clinton, who honored the evangelist, calling him "a man I love."

Clinton spoke briefly before Graham's sermon and recalled how the man known as America's pastor had refused to preach before a segregated audience in Arkansas decades ago when that state was in a bitter fight over school desegregation.

"I was just a little boy and I'll never forget it," said Clinton, who was joined by his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. "I've loved him ever since. God bless you, friend."

Graham called the Clintons "wonderful friends" and "a great couple," quipping that the former president should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country."

Graham, 86, then launched into a short sermon that was interrupted by applause five times. Organizers estimated 80,000 people had come to the crusade at Flushing Meadows-Corona Park in Queens — about 20,000 more than the opening night Friday. The rally ends Sunday.

The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain, prostate cancer and Parkinson's disease. He uses the walker due to a pelvic fracture and is largely confined to his home in Montreat, N.C. He had said previously that the rally "will be the last in America, I'm sure."

Despite his many ailments, he spoke strongly for about 15 minutes, in an address meant to appeal to young people. He peppered his speech with pop-culture references from Madonna to Bono to MTV. He wove a parable about bad decision-making from the plot of "Star Wars: Episode III — Revenge of the Sith," in which Anakin Skywalker becomes the villain Darth Vader.

"The decisions you make tonight will effect your whole future and your eternal future," he said, before inviting people forward to accept Christ.

Graham's son and successor, the Rev. Franklin Graham, sat nearby, ready to finish the speech in case his father could not. But Franklin Graham was needed only to help his father move onstage.

Seats began filling hours before the event began, as temperatures reached into the 90s. Speakers repeatedly encouraged people in the audience to drink water to avoid fainting. Graham waited to go on in an air-conditioned tent, with aides nearby in case of a medical emergency, and the stage was shaded by a massive canopy.

Graham's pulpit has a movable seat hidden from view, so he can sit if he feels unsteady. He used the seat Saturday only after he finished his sermon.

Graham is considering a request to hold a rally in November in London, but Franklin Graham said his father no longer adjusts well to time zone changes and does not like to be away from his wife, Ruth, who is also in ill health.

Graham has preached to more than 210 million people in 185 countries. He has been sought out by U.S. presidents and leaders worldwide and, more than any other religious figure, has come to represent the American evangelical movement.

Marie St. Louis, 34, who came to the event hours early Saturday with friends and family from her New York church, called the rally "bittersweet" because it was Graham's last in the United States.

"It's sad because he's such a legend," St. Louis said. "When you think of Billy Graham, you think of a lot of things a Christian should be."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; billygraham; clinton; graham; hillary; impeachedx42; nyc
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Puke.
1 posted on 06/26/2005 10:07:05 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA

Egad.


2 posted on 06/26/2005 10:08:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Josh in PA

If Clinton doesn't hate you, you're doing something wrong.


3 posted on 06/26/2005 10:08:36 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<< Ad Campaign for Durbin the Turban in profile)
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To: Josh in PA


Truly a sign that the end of the world is nigh...

My Southern Babtist Granny loves Billy Graham...but extremly dislikes the Clinton Clan and their ilk. This will not sit with her well.

Billy really needs to think hard about who he's offering support for.


4 posted on 06/26/2005 10:09:06 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: Josh in PA
The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain,

Enough said.

5 posted on 06/26/2005 10:09:17 AM PDT by joshhiggins (The only good muslim is a bad muslim, and vice versa.)
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To: Josh in PA

Good grief. Did he really say this?? The she-devil should run the country? I am very disappointed in Billy Graham.


6 posted on 06/26/2005 10:09:32 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Josh in PA
The evangelist is suffering from fluid on the brain

I knew there had to be some explanation.

7 posted on 06/26/2005 10:09:50 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Josh in PA

Why people put faith in "evangelists" is beyond me. They are just opportunists, cashing in on other people's vulnerabilities.


8 posted on 06/26/2005 10:13:34 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Old enough to know better, still too young to care)
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To: Josh in PA

eh, he was caught up in the moment; being nice, etc.


9 posted on 06/26/2005 10:14:54 AM PDT by smonk
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To: SamAdams76

What stage of Alzheimers is Billy Graham in?


11 posted on 06/26/2005 10:15:27 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: Josh in PA
Poor Graham. He's preached to untold millions, tirelessly and willingly sharing his message of hope, redemption, and unspeakable joy.

And he fails to realize on the last night of the last crusade he will ever perform, he is nothing but a photo-op for the two biggest grifters Satan has ever produced. Oh Billy, where hast thou spirit of discernment gone??????

12 posted on 06/26/2005 10:16:24 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: Neville72
What stage of Alzheimers is Billy Graham in?

Clearly the final stage.

13 posted on 06/26/2005 10:17:35 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Billy has never been one to join in the political bickering. He has seemed to offer an arm of reconciliation to all who would take it. While I disagree with him about the Clintons, he probably only knows them to be nice. There are many others who say the same thing. Although these are people who have never really gotten to know the Clintons well enough to know better. A few visits, and them on good behavior...? They are absolute politicians, and I can forgive him for being taken in.


14 posted on 06/26/2005 10:18:16 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: Josh in PA
From the way it reads, Graham was talking to Bill Clinton. Perhaps a tongue in cheek comment telling Bill to let go of delusions of grandeur? Then again, maybe he's lost it completely
15 posted on 06/26/2005 10:19:08 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (Peas through superior fertilizer!)
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To: shotokan

Yeah, and there doesn't seem to be much context to the comment.
susie


16 posted on 06/26/2005 10:20:26 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: Tax-chick

Maybe he just meant that Shillary can run the country...as she currently is .. as a senator.

I do not think it was meant to be an endorsement.


17 posted on 06/26/2005 10:20:27 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: Josh in PA

Poor senile Billy Graham, being played by a Klinton. Time to ride into the sunset and retire. It's sad to see a nice guy like Billy Graham sell out his values and integrity.


18 posted on 06/26/2005 10:21:12 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: Josh in PA
Clinton spoke briefly before Graham's sermon and recalled how the man known as America's pastor had refused to preach before a segregated audience in Arkansas decades ago when that state was in a bitter fight over school desegregation. "I was just a little boy and I'll never forget it," said Clinton,

I'll bet this is another invented Clinton memory.

20 posted on 06/26/2005 10:21:59 AM PDT by American Quilter
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To: Josh in PA

In effect , as one of 100 Senators who are a part of our govt., she does run our country. I did not get out of his comments an endorsement to be Pres.


21 posted on 06/26/2005 10:22:19 AM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: Josh in PA

To prevent duplicates, please do not alter the heading. Thanks.


22 posted on 06/26/2005 10:22:27 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: joshhiggins

I agree. He would have said the same thing about
Laura if the BushES had been on the platform with him.

I prefer it was the Clintons. With their moraltrack
record, they need all the sympathy pull they can get.


23 posted on 06/26/2005 10:22:45 AM PDT by Grendel9 (uick)
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To: Josh in PA

Hillary and Bill know that they will have to appeal to the "religious right" for Hillary to win in 2008.
That was what this fiasco with Graham was all about. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out the Clintons. You just have to be smart enough not to let yourself get sucked into their trap.


24 posted on 06/26/2005 10:22:59 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Josh in PA

dittos.


25 posted on 06/26/2005 10:23:31 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to steal your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Josh in PA

Billy Graham IS suffering from Alzheimer disease. He takes the Clintons at face value, and we all have seen how charming they can be if you take them at face value.

I really hate that his son, handlers, etc. have allowed the Clintons to use Graham and his final crusade to push Hillary's Pres. run forward. Doubtless, it will sell to some people.

vaudine


26 posted on 06/26/2005 10:24:28 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Shery


There is a difference between private reconcilliation and public endorsement...Billy has been around enough to know the difference.

Because of what these two, Bill and Hillary, support...Graham should have never offered such a public endorsement. He knows better.

He may be more forgiving because of his advanced age...but these two can still cause trouble and for the future he should be quietly forgiving but publicly taking them to task for what they represent...regardless of how "nice" they are.

Many white collar criminals and schisters are the nicest people you ever met. Billy is old enough to know this too.


27 posted on 06/26/2005 10:26:07 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: Josh in PA
....quipping that the former president should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country."

Quip. ....as in wisecrack, joke, jest.

28 posted on 06/26/2005 10:29:32 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
"I was just a little boy and I'll never forget it,"

........ just like the church burnings that he said he remembered as a kid. (not)

;-)

29 posted on 06/26/2005 10:35:57 AM PDT by beyond the sea (No more legitimate hearing room ever again, Conyers......... to the broom closet ! ;-))
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To: Josh in PA


They both have something on common -

none are ashamed of taking other peoples money for their own use..


30 posted on 06/26/2005 10:36:52 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Josh in PA

"his wife to run the country."

Run it into a communist h*ll!


31 posted on 06/26/2005 10:36:56 AM PDT by Isabelle
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To: American Quilter
I'll bet this is another invented Clinton memory.

see post # 29 .........

;-)

32 posted on 06/26/2005 10:38:14 AM PDT by beyond the sea (No more legitimate hearing room ever again, Conyers......... to the broom closet ! ;-))
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To: Mr. Mojo


The problem with making such a jest...is it will be spun until it no longer is a just a jest and becomes an endorsement, because that's exactly what the liberal media wants.

They do it all the time, negatively, in regard to conservative speakers.

The press are masters at avoiding context and manipulating context when it works to their advantage and serves their interests.


33 posted on 06/26/2005 10:38:27 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent green is people!")
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To: Josh in PA
I was having a good morning until I read this article. The Clinton's have no shame.
34 posted on 06/26/2005 10:40:06 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Mr. Mojo


I doubt it.. Graham is an admitted Socialist(Democrat) and fighter of the "Social Injustice" caused by free enterprise.

He would vote for Hillary.


35 posted on 06/26/2005 10:41:12 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA

Both of these old coots can just bite me.


36 posted on 06/26/2005 10:41:37 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: American Quilter

That was my first thought as well.


37 posted on 06/26/2005 10:48:16 AM PDT by Fatalist
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To: Shery

During the Clinton years and after it came out Clinton was getting regular Lewinsky's in the oval office - Billy Graham also said it wasn't Billy's fault as a virily, attractive, yound man that all those nasty, vile, sister's of Eve and Jezebal's threw themselves at him.

Okay, Billy Graham didn't call them Jezebal's or sisters of Eve - but he did blame Cinton's female problems on the victims for throwing themselves at him. Billy G.'s message pretty much seems to boil down to 'if you're rich, powerful and attractive' you can pretty much do what you want and still enter the Kingdom.' It is a shame that he sucked all those people in with such a message. We can ALL be saved, but not if we blame our sins and failings on someone else.


38 posted on 06/26/2005 10:48:58 AM PDT by NHResident
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To: NHResident

SORRY virily = virile; yound = young - I apologize for the misspellings.


39 posted on 06/26/2005 10:50:54 AM PDT by NHResident
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The "religious right" will never be sucked into the Clinton's trap. Some "Religious" people might.


40 posted on 06/26/2005 10:52:13 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Josh in PA

You really do not know what you are talking about. Billy Graham is far from a socialist.


41 posted on 06/26/2005 10:53:43 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Josh in PA
Clinton Honors Graham at Final Revival

Clintons dishonor Graham by their presence at final revival. Graham shows more charity than prudence.

42 posted on 06/26/2005 10:55:00 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Poor senile Billy Graham, being played by a Klinton. Time to ride into the sunset and retire. It's sad to see a nice guy like Billy Graham sell out his values and integrity.

I admit I wonder as well. But maybe Billy Graham is forgiving the Clintons past. As Christians we are suppose to forgive others if we wish to be forgiven. As for who runs the country..., no one is elected to office without God's permission, not even William Jefferson Blyth or Hillary (whatever her real name is).

43 posted on 06/26/2005 11:03:01 AM PDT by Luke (CPO, USCG (Ret))
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To: TruthConquers
Maybe he just meant that Shillary can run the country...as she currently is .. as a senator.

I think you are right. I was dumbfounded at first, but thought about it and concluded that he was referring to Hillary's legislative role.

44 posted on 06/26/2005 11:04:05 AM PDT by Faith
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To: Josh in PA

When impeached and disgraced Bill Clinton was in trouble for lying about "sexual relations" with an intern, Billy Graham came to his rescue. During NBC's Today Show in February 1998, Graham said of Clinton, "He has such a tremendous personality that I think the ladies just go wild over him." Graham didn't think Clinton could be expected to resist having oral sex with Monica Lewinsky. The so-called evangelist said, "I know the frailty of human nature, and especially a strong, vigorous young man like he is."


45 posted on 06/26/2005 11:04:32 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: mariabush

Actually I do.. You should check your facts..

Graham is a Socialist.


46 posted on 06/26/2005 11:14:30 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA

Clinton's only valid reason for being there, would be to answer the call. Alas, he didn't feel the need.

Wouldn't you want your career to end with that sour note.

If Graham had a wart on his posterior, it would have more class than Clinton.


47 posted on 06/26/2005 11:19:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Josh in PA

Yet another charade to re-package Hitlery (a leading member of the anti-Christian party) as a woman of faith. Nice try!


48 posted on 06/26/2005 11:31:25 AM PDT by citizencon
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To: citizencon

Reported once on See-B.S radio (of all places): the crowd booed when they saw the clinocchios. People who go to these crusades are conservative Christians. They are not beast voters.
I was at the crusade on Friday night. When Rev. Graham gleefully remarked that Flushing Meadow Park, the site of the meeting was "The site where the United Nations first met...." You could hear the grass wrussling. Dude, it was dead silent.
When he realized this, he said "And the resolution to form the state of Isreal was passed here." That got some cheers.


49 posted on 06/26/2005 11:51:55 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Dealing with liberals? Remember: when you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: American Quilter

That is exactly what I thought. Wonder how we can find out.


50 posted on 06/26/2005 11:52:57 AM PDT by georgia peach
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