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Boffins create zombie dogs
news.com.au ^ | June 27, 2005 | Nick Buchan

Posted on 06/26/2005 8:25:28 PM PDT by Piefloater

SCIENTISTS have created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop suspended animation for humans.

US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years. Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique in which subject's veins are drained of blood and filled with an ice-cold salt solution.

The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity.

But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock.

Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.

However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours,

But even a this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss.

Duing the procedure blood is replaced with saline solution at a few degrees above zero. The dogs' body temperature drops to only 7C, compared with the usual 37C, inducing a state of hypothermia before death.

Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved.

Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery. The dogs are brought back to life by returning the blood to their bodies,giving them 100 per cent oxygen and applying electric shocks to restart their hearts.

Tests show they are perfectly normal, with no brain damage.

"The results are stunning. I think in 10 years we will be able to prevent death in a certain segment of those using this technology," said one US battlefield doctor.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bravenewworld; creepy; nightmares; research; suspendedanimation; workingdogs
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1 posted on 06/26/2005 8:25:30 PM PDT by Piefloater
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To: Piefloater

Ok, I get the zombie dog concept, but what's a boffin?


2 posted on 06/26/2005 8:27:48 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: Piefloater

With this and the Bonsai Kitties site I have to wonder if we're living in a George Romero movie.


3 posted on 06/26/2005 8:28:10 PM PDT by Darkwolf
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To: Darkwolf

is that new movie any good?


4 posted on 06/26/2005 8:29:46 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: Piefloater
Relife the hounds!
5 posted on 06/26/2005 8:30:21 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Dog gone it.)
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To: jocon307

A scientist, especially one engaged in research.


6 posted on 06/26/2005 8:30:44 PM PDT by Piefloater
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To: jocon307

"Boffins": (Bôf ' ns) noun - the name for scientists and scholars working quietly to develop new and exciting techniques and skills


7 posted on 06/26/2005 8:30:54 PM PDT by headstamp
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To: Piefloater; HairOfTheDog

Fifi the Undead.

8 posted on 06/26/2005 8:31:18 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Piefloater
But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock.

Paging Mary Shelly!!

9 posted on 06/26/2005 8:31:19 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Piefloater; HairOfTheDog

Fifi the Undead.

10 posted on 06/26/2005 8:32:10 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Piefloater

This raises some intriguing questions on the nature of consciousness, the meaning of life and death, and, if they're able to duplicate this procedure on humans, what constitutes the soul--or whether it even exists.


11 posted on 06/26/2005 8:32:37 PM PDT by kms61
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Bah! Server fart.


12 posted on 06/26/2005 8:32:45 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Piefloater
"Boffins create zombie dogs"

Great news from the new-age scientific community; they can kill a dog and after three hours of clinical death can bring it back to life. Soon they will make a 'zombie human' and then make a clone of the zombie. It can be adopted by two lesbians and grow up to be Chairman of the DNC.

13 posted on 06/26/2005 8:33:34 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Piefloater

Abyssly cool.


14 posted on 06/26/2005 8:34:08 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: martin_fierro

She looks like Ter-ray-za on a bad day.


15 posted on 06/26/2005 8:34:18 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: jocon307
what's a boffin?

Whatever they are, apparently you've got to join to be one:


16 posted on 06/26/2005 8:34:39 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Dog gone it.)
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To: Piefloater
Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.

Oh, I can imagine the volunteers.

17 posted on 06/26/2005 8:35:56 PM PDT by EdHallick (It`s time to play the feeuuud! "Name something evil" "Hitlery" ..Good answer good answer "Survey say)
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To: atlanta67

I dunno. I don't think George Romero has learned anything about directing movies in 40 years. I liked the remake of Dawn of the Dead better than the original.


18 posted on 06/26/2005 8:36:53 PM PDT by Darkwolf
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To: Piefloater; martin_fierro

Hmmm..... I'm skeptical that this is even true....

I don't know the Austrailian source or it's credibility, but I'm suspect when the included picture at the site is of a snarling wolf, trying to play up the 'scary zombie' aspect of the story, rather than the obvious medical ramifications of this.


19 posted on 06/26/2005 8:38:03 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Piefloater
Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.

Don't think they can do this in the US. No informed consent.

The fda stopped research on a CPR device a few years ago because there was no informed consent on the research study subjects.

20 posted on 06/26/2005 8:38:08 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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21 posted on 06/26/2005 8:38:27 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Darkwolf

Dawn of the Dead 2004, was good


22 posted on 06/26/2005 8:38:35 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: jocon307

Boffins look like such happy, successful, well-dressed people, don't they?


23 posted on 06/26/2005 8:38:39 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Dog gone it.)
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To: TheCrusader

What are you talking about?


24 posted on 06/26/2005 8:38:40 PM PDT by psychoknk
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To: kms61

Something like this is already being done in surgery.

When they have to do extensive brain surgery , especially the cases that last 18 hours, they use super cooling.


25 posted on 06/26/2005 8:40:09 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: Piefloater
Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique. . . .

How's it working? Safar, sagood.

26 posted on 06/26/2005 8:40:35 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Dog gone it.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

"Boffins look like such happy, successful, well-dressed people, don't they?"

Oh yes, they LOOK like that, but really, they are ZOMBIES!


27 posted on 06/26/2005 8:40:41 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: jocon307

28 posted on 06/26/2005 8:43:37 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Dog gone it.)
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To: martin_fierro

lol!!! That reminds me of that cartoon "The far side" with the killer poodles. This old lady is in her kitchen and her pet poodles are in the next room with one saying to the other "But Fluffy, if we kill her the pampering will end."


29 posted on 06/26/2005 8:43:54 PM PDT by EdHallick (It`s time to play the feeuuud! "Name something evil" "Hitlery" ..Good answer good answer "Survey say)
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To: atlanta67

Reactions seem pretty polarized. Some have really hated it, but many mainstream reviewers are loving it. If you don't like leftist politics in movies, you might want to avoid it. It has been described as "the first Marxist sci-fi movie since They Live!." Also, John Leguizamo has said it comments on Bush interventionism, or some such rot. And, there are apparently swipes taken at Reagan. Of course, if you can divorce that stuff, you might enjoy it.

Frankly, I think Romero has totally lost it. His output over the last 20 years has been pretty abysmal. I think part of it is he bought into his own hype about social commentary in Dawn of the Dead. He says it was set in a mall to make a statement about consumerism. One of the producers of the film says that is total revisionism, and it was filmed in a mall because that was the only place they were able to shoot for free.

Bottom line for me is, I'm not going to see it.


30 posted on 06/26/2005 8:44:06 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: TASMANIANRED

Do you know anything about near death experiences under those circumstances? Their occurance, or lack thereof, would give some indication of whether NDE's are real, or just artifacts of the brain.


31 posted on 06/26/2005 8:44:17 PM PDT by kms61
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To: neverdem

An interesting FYI....hmmmmmmmm....


32 posted on 06/26/2005 8:44:19 PM PDT by GummyIII (If you have the ability, it's your responsibility." Marine Sgt. John Place, Silver Star recipient)
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To: EdHallick
Damn, I can never find that cartoon, but here is another good Far side dog one..


33 posted on 06/26/2005 8:45:28 PM PDT by EdHallick (It`s time to play the feeuuud! "Name something evil" "Hitlery" ..Good answer good answer "Survey say)
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To: Piefloater

PET CEMETERY<PET CEMETERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 06/26/2005 8:48:02 PM PDT by therut
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To: Piefloater

This has already been done.
The dead voted for Kennedy in Chicago and LBJ in Texas.


35 posted on 06/26/2005 8:48:32 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: jocon307

Must be some sort of code, that only Boffins can understand.

They walk among us, you know.

36 posted on 06/26/2005 8:48:58 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Dog gone it.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

And Gregoire in Washington State.


37 posted on 06/26/2005 8:49:37 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Piefloater
Here's a pic of the head zombie hizself Jo Ke from the movie Re-Animator




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38 posted on 06/26/2005 8:50:21 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: EdHallick

39 posted on 06/26/2005 8:51:24 PM PDT by EdHallick (It`s time to play the feeuuud! "Name something evil" "Hitlery" ..Good answer good answer "Survey say)
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To: Piefloater
 Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.
 
 
No fair.  No fair.
 
 

40 posted on 06/26/2005 8:51:57 PM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: Piefloater

Herbert West, Paging Herbert West...


41 posted on 06/26/2005 8:53:04 PM PDT by kenth
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To: Piefloater
This sounds like a cool way to check out the afterlife.

Think 'Flatliners'.

42 posted on 06/26/2005 8:53:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: jocon307
UNIDENTIFIED

43 posted on 06/26/2005 8:54:28 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Dog gone it.)
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To: Piefloater
"Suspended Animation"


44 posted on 06/26/2005 8:54:42 PM PDT by austinmark (Torture? Koran abuse? I'd Rather Be A Koran In Gitmo THAN A Bible in Saudi Arabia !!!)
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To: Piefloater
Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.

Ill bet there will be plenty of people standing in line for that study.
45 posted on 06/26/2005 8:55:56 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: TheCrusader
Soon they will make a 'zombie human' and then make a clone of the zombie. It can be adopted by two lesbians and grow up to be Chairman of the DNC.LOL!

Don't forget, the stem cells of the zombie clone will be used to cure one of the lesbians of AIDS.

46 posted on 06/26/2005 8:56:04 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: Rastus; atlanta67; Darkwolf

Regardless of any political overtones (and you really have to look for them, minus one or two blatant spots) the movie sucked--the remake of Dawn of the Dead from last year was far, far superior and, more than anything, proves Romero is nothing more than a talentless hack.


47 posted on 06/26/2005 8:56:19 PM PDT by ECM
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To: Piefloater
But even a this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss.

The only problem is that irreversible brain damage will occur within five minutes of oxygen deprivation. The procedure won't reverse the brain damage or any other kind of irreversible tissue damage. Unless it can be performed on the spot, it's worthless.

This puts me in mind of other medical "tricks," like sex-change surgery, which is described by many (especially in the media) as changing a woman into a man or a man into a woman, but actually is nothing more than a sleight-of-hand involving plastic surgery and some heavy sophistry.

48 posted on 06/26/2005 8:58:12 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: jocon307

Ok, I get the zombie dog concept, but what's a boffin?

______________________________________________________________

"Boffin" is Brit-slang for the pocket-protecter and slide rule set. I remember the WWII phrase "the boffin's war" referring to the electronic war in the Battle of the Atlantic and the air war over Europe.


49 posted on 06/26/2005 8:59:42 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Piefloater

50 posted on 06/26/2005 9:03:39 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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