Posted on 06/27/2005 3:21:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Okay... then what good would sprinklers do?
Let's be real. If these dopes won't check the battery in a smoke detector, what are the odds they'll do the required service & maintance on a complicated Sprinkler System.
My guess is 10100 to one.
And pay a staff to go out and check the batteries twice a year too. It would be cheaper.
Could you define where 'we' is?
NY, CA, ?
And when 'we' passed said ordinance and to what purpose?
And no offense, (honestly) but since more people die each year in bathtub accidents and from falling off ladders, what are your ordinances on those items in order to protect the people who live in 'we'?
very good point about the added false alarms.
First comes the requirement for new homes to have sprinkler systems.
Next comes the requirement that older houses are to be retrofitted with sprinker systems before they can be sold.
After that comes the requirement that ALL houses are equipped with sprinker systems.
Then, the local government will require that all houses within the city limits be inspected yearly and tests be performed by local companies loyal to the current administration.
Once all houses have sprinkler systems, they will have to pay a yearly permit fee to be allowed to have their homes certified "safe and in compliance with the fire code." Without this permit, you will not be allowed to live in the dangerous house.
Next, the county will require all residents external to the city to conform to the same requirements.
Once the state realizes the money and additinal power this will bring, a state regulation will be written along with an additional compliance permit and sticker that will have to be applied to the front door of each home in the state.
Next, the federal government will be involved and make it a nationwide regulation complete with an additional permit and federal sticker that must be applied to your front door.
Once the federal government gets involved, we will have "no notice" inspections to catch those who forge fake door permits.
But hey! It's worth it........it's for the children. Don't you feel better knowing that big brother is keeping you safe? No matter what the cost in money and freedom, safety trumps all!
Halon is now outlawed and has been for a long time.
(((Groan)))
It's so true.
But WE DON"T HAVE TO TAKE IT!!
If you're not trapped with this yoke yet, speak up!
Please - don't give them anymore bright ideas.
After all imaginable precautions had been adopted, I doubt fire deaths will fall appreciably as the tinderboxes of older homes in disrepair and ajoined housing in cities would still be a problem.
Life has its risks.
You have nailed it. Whatever the additional cost, it is added to the base cost for property tax assessments. These new regulations will artificially raise the community value of comparable sales. The value of homes without sprinklers will be raised because of the value of the new home sales. Higher values = more tax money. Government wins again...roll over.
I've done that. I've given away CO detectors too. Cheap way to save lives, IMHO.
A box of smoke detectors down at the soup kitchen might not be a bad idea, either.
Anyone with a Mortgage should just send their monthly Bill to company's like Pfizer, they'll eventually own it anyway, might as well let them make the payment. The Sprinkler Bill as well, since they'll just be protecting their investment. Blackbird.
It can displace O2 if the volume is sufficient, for the space involved, and it can also be an irritant.
"Sprinkler heads have to be installed per NFPA so every ten foot of floor space is covered."NFPA 13D does not require every square foot be covered.
"In a house you need a pump in lieu of a 'stand pipe'."Standpipes are only required in structures 4 floors and higher or with internal travel distances of more than 200’ (150’ in a sprinklered structure).
Whether or not a sprinkler system has a pump depends on the type of system and the water pressure in that area. Some systems just have heads coming off the domestic tap in each of the protected areas.
"The main feed to the house has to be separate from your domestic water supply…"No, it does not. The flow required by a system depends on its use; foster home, private residence, ect... If the domestic water feed cannot provide the required flow you can install a new water feed or provide tanks and a pump. Typically a 13D system flow should be enough to provide 2 heads for 10 to 30 minuets depending on the occupancy.
"Of course I'm only basing my opinion on 35 years in commercial construction - estimating, engineering and project management."Yeah, that sounds about right.
Safty nazi's seek to enter your home in the name of safety.
Open up its the safety nazi's to inspect your home.
Knock! Knock!
Knowing Maryland's reputation for honest government, would anyone be surprised if it transpired that someone with influence in the Montgomery County government had a financial interest in a company that makes or installs home sprinkler systems? Or at least had a brother or a cousin who did?
These things don't happen spontaneously.
My opinon is that yeah, cars may be cheaper without airbags and houses more expensive with copper wires but those are worthwhile.
Kids are better off slepping with a sprinkler head above them, because the fact is smoke detectors do not wake many children up.
One well place sprinkler head would have saved almost a hundred people in the Rhode Island fire.
You are wise.
Follow the money.
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