Skip to comments.The Young Labeled 'Entitlement Generation'
Posted on 06/27/2005 6:36:38 AM PDT by GPBurdell
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In following generations there is a huge outcry for reform of the SS system. The baby boomers, with their huge vote, are the guardians of the status quo. Even on here you can see the difference. One can't have the attitude of "I'm going to get mine and who cares about who follows" without accepting responsibility for it.
What industry are you in? These days, almost anyone can start their own company with virtually no capital, and most people with a capacity for hard work should.
Yes I cant agree more, the spoiled whining of the anti-Bush, anti-America bashers is so typical of the 60's generation. These folks are the apex of entitled and never had to compete for anything in society. These are the trust fund babies and limosine liberals that want to keep kids enslaved in government schools, while sending their lil angels to private academies...
I'm currently in Telecommunications (in a 'provisioning' position). I've been doing this type of work for about 6 or 7 years.. it's certainly not my main love in life.
Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.
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If there's an "entitlement generation", it ain't young people. It's people now receiving, or soon to receive, Social Security.
Interesting to see a Baby Boomer in the workforce be so open about his intolerance of younger workers. I've talked to others about the age discrimination for Generation X (now approaching 40) and the disrepect that some co-workers exhibit towards us.
They would rather give supervisor positions to divorcees with no degree than someone with a college degree and 5-7 years experience.
The way age discrimination is spelled out in the workplace only applies to elderly workers.
We will forever get the short end of the stick.
At least some people are willing to admit their prejudice.
Ummm, GW is a Boomer.
GenReagan will NOT be working 32 years at the same company. What with outsourcing, bankruptcy, and corporate takeovers, you can be sure of that.
Best you can hope for is 32 years in the same field.
And so were Clinton, Gore, and Kerry.
John Kerry was even a leader of the youth movement Baby Boomers. Whether kids accepted him as such or not... Even Gary Trudeau mocked this in a 1970s Doonesbury strip.
Not every member of the "Baby Boom" age bracket (post war birthrate explosion) shared the same behavioral traits although they all grew up in largely the same society.
Just as not every member of GenX/GenReagan subscribes to the same politics or work ethic.
when we speak about a generation we are making generalizations. Not ALL boomers suck neither are all Gen X-ers virtous. But X42 (slick whilly) was the quintessential baby boomer.
Wow, that's great. I'm happy for you.
See, I'm not going to let you get away with that. I believe whole-heartedly that GW is representative of far more Boomers than Bill Clinton. I would even go so far as to say that Clinton represented in character and in action, a small minority of boomers.
Of course he is/they are. This thread is full of wonderful irony. All the newer generation who resent the "entitlement" label and are trashing the boomer generation, are mad because they think they somehow have been getting screwed out of something they are **gasp** entitled to!
"In their day, baby boomers were rabble-rousing hippies, while Gen Xers were apathetic slackers."
The most visible baby boomers WERE rabble-rousing hippies. Gen Xers had no visibility at all in the boomer dominated media which expected them to act like rebels without a clue, and so the rabble-rousing hippies CALLED them apathetic slackers.
"Now, deserved or not, this latest generation is being pegged, too as one with shockingly high expectations for salary, job flexibility and duties but little willingness to take on grunt work or remain loyal to a company."
Why would college grads who've witnessed corporate 'loyalty' to employees dwindle down to in the last 40 years have any intention of being tied to a corporation by anything other than contract? Most states have at-will hiring and a company can fire you for coughing funny. And that's assuming you get hired at all, if you're a white male.
If your plan is to be loyal to and work for the same company for your entire career, unless you own it, you're fooling yourself. And even if you do manage to work for a company that retains you for however long it takes your pension to vest, odds aren't so great that your pension plan will be there any more, and the government certainly doesn't care if United or GM abrogates its responsibilities to retirees, regardless of the companies' promises to do so and retiree reliance on those promises. Cash is the only thing employees can keep and rely on. Small wonder the younger ones know to demand top dollar.
I don't feel entitled to Social Security. I'm actually not even interested in receiving it. I just don't want to be forced to keep paying for it.
I only feel entitled to Social Security in that it was taken out of my paycheck and I'd like to get it back.
I've been cleaning up after Boomers my entire life, and frankly, I'm sick of them. Yes, there are some decent Boomers, but for the most part, their generation has been an absolute pox on the Republic.
Very well said. I agree completely.
Not EVERY boomer deserves scorn--there are plenty on this board that deserve credit for doing their best to change this redistributionism when they could. But I'm not about to say it's the majority and I'm not about to agree that Gen X has an entitlement mentality toward Social Security, when I don't know a single Gen Xer who believes they'll ever see a Social Security check, let alone believes they're 'entitled' to one. We'll see who screams loudest when the checks don't come in. I bet it won't be Gen X or the Millenials who are bitching about being entitled.
Respect used to be something elders deserved for their wisdom and hard work for their progeny. I see that now it's something some of you feel generationally **gasp** entitled to, without any reason for it.
From the CBO 2002(Prior to the Medicare Rx plan introduction)
We're going to by hampered our entire working lifetimes of mandatory outlays for Medicare and Social Security that will be greater than discretionary income, we wil see our infrastructure slowly crumble as the previous generation uses its large numbers as a voting bloc to maintain their subsidies, and no politician willing to faceoff against the AARP.
To top it all off, when we are nearing retirement, we'll be outnumbered by younger generations because of immigration, limitingour voting power to maintain the status quo for our own retirement and medical security.
While each American is responsible for his/her own outcome, in many ways we will be trapped inside a rigged system if we want to strive for the illustrious American dream.
Even saying this, I presume most Freepers will strive and succeed, but along the way we'll be paying for the long term negative savings rate amongst the baby boomer generation and our own generation.
Made my point. If you think you're entitled to that you'll be the first generation saince the 1930's to enjoy such privileged status. Good luck.
It sounds like you think you're entitled to decide which government fiasco you will fund and which you won't. I feel the same way about Model Cities, Synfuel Corp, and the Department of Education. Good luck.
I was there too, crossing Liberty Street to meet a Comex floor broker for lunch when things went boom.
You see what you want to see and in doing so insult most of the military echelon that has been planning and winning the war in Iraq...or do you suppose that the Generals are anything but mostly boomers?
In return, I get to retire in 2032, the day SS goes bankrupt.
So, yeah, I have my own money, and my own plans. Because I work my tail off.
I was on the 49th floor of WTC 2. It was NOT fun.
Translation: "Pay me because I breathe."
More like $300k, actually.
And I never expect to see a DIME in return.
I'm a boomer.
So get off your lazy but and VOTE!
Yeah, it's called income. *I'm* entitled to *my* income. Me, not a bunch of geezers who decided before I was even born that they didn't have to save for retirement because, hey!, they could just get the government to take *my* money from me and give it to them. But I don't blame the boomers as much as I blame the geezers who *started* this welfare state. I mean really, the boomers haven't even started retiring yet and we're already trillions in debt thanks to SS. How could that be the boomers fault or the fault of younger folks? It's not. It will be their fault however once they start living off the taxpayers just like their parents and grandparents have been doing for all these years. Really, I resent *anyone* who thinks he has a right to live off the fruits of someone else's labor. And without even an ouce of shame? *That's* what's really pathetic about this entire mess.
i'm a Gen Xer. Went out on my own at 27 y/o and would never work for someone again unless I was paid big big dollars.
I see no problem with young people not feeling a sense of loysalty to a company if there is no mutual feeling.
The old ways are dead. Its kill or be killed.
BS. I started with nothing in my own business and did it out of my parents' basement. Three years later, I own my office, have a good clientele, and am rocking and rolling. It takes blood tears toil and sweat.
I would NEVER work for someone again!
My first job out of law school was for a baby boomer WASP from CT. He was an arrogant liberal jerk. He looked at me like just another wop, but F'em, I quit, started my own practice, and never looked back.
I get into argumemts withg my boomer dad all the time. I want to be left alone and left for dead if I fail. I don't want anyone to pay for my care, no one to pay for my welfare, I want to be left the F%^^ alone to make a decent legal living not having to subsidize old peoples' drug habit.
I don't want New T Gingrich or Clinton deciding what I can and can not watch. Just leave me alone!
Boomers are typically weenies who are gutless wonders.
They are truly a cynical bunch who are ruining our country through a variety of venues.
And, for the record, I've voted in 4 elections now, and the only one I *slightly* regret is voting for Perot in '92, since it allowed x42 into the White House.
You think you will have paid in more?
Guess again - I got to start paying in 1974. Been paying 15% of my income ever since.
Please, give it back.
And stop whining about how you contributed 10 years, at your minimum-wage job.
I really have no more patience for it.
Well, after working from 7-7, seven days a week, for the past two months, I think I am entitled to SOMETHING, other than grief from my boss.
What? 15% of my wages? Damn right I'm entitled to them - I earned them after all.
How have you been?
I work for myself and really resent the lazy entitlement types who are nowhere to be found 7 at night or on the weekend while I try to scratch out a living.
I went to a wedding and got into an argument with some liberal B%^^& from Brown U. who told me I was greedy and only out for myself and to think of myself as part of some global community.
I told her the Bronx NY and my monthly bills are my global community. I was actually scared that people like this vote and really want to punish productive people.
The boomers and older generation are just feeling foolish at how scammed they were by this whole ponzie scheme and resent that we figured it out very early on. I worked for a Boomer who was a liberal arrogant WASP'y jerk Iwanted to bring down to the Bronx for a few lessons.
Theelderly are sadly mind controled and hopeless in this whole debate. We, on the other hand, have big fat bulls eyes on our chests.
Late wave boomers won't see it either. I have been working since 1976 and won't see a dime of SSA -- SSA does NOT factor into my retirement planning. If it is still around, I will use it as a windfall to buy hats or something.
But the point of the article is that Entitlement Generation kids had that stupid "self esteem" thing going -- awards for everyone! -- and now have to actually prove themselves and they are collapsing.
If I have the chance, I will speed this along. I had to work a lot of crap jobs to get where I am -- it helped build my character. If these poo-buck kids hold their hands out to me they will get them slapped -- HARD.
Hey, good for you. At what point did I knock it? It's just not for me... is that alright by you?
Owning one's own business.