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'Today' OKs Gay Weddings
Broadcasting and Cable ^ | 06/27/05 | Broadcasting and Cable

Posted on 06/27/2005 9:05:17 AM PDT by Pikamax

'Today' OKs Gay Weddings Gay marriage may still be a subject of hot debate elsewhere in the country, but NBC's Today show has decided, with some outside prodding, where it stands: Same-sex vows are fine with them. For six years, the show has been running a series that offers an on-air wedding to couples willing to let viewers help select details down to the honeymoon location. One stipulation: “This opportunity is open only to currently engaged couples consisting of a male and a female.”

After inquiries from gay-rights activists and an article last week in The Advocate, the policy was changed at week's end. A Today spokeswoman explains that the show has always strived to have the winning couple get legally married on the show. Previous weddings had taken place in New York or Anguilla, where local laws bar gay marriages, but this year's contest is about “hometown” weddings—which might take place where gay weddings are permitted, notably Massachusetts.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baaaaaarrrrffff; gag; homos; homosexual; homosexualagenda; hurl; liberalmedia; mattlauerinthecloset; nbc; puke; samesexmarriage
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To: lynxaken


lynxaken
Since Jun 27, 2005

Why does your gay brother need to get married? It serves no purpose.


51 posted on 06/27/2005 10:07:39 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: CWW

I don't care about the Today Show and refuse to give them so much credit as to assume their shift is presentation will have national ramifications.

I do agree with your sentiment though.


53 posted on 06/27/2005 10:08:45 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: kallisti
"There are three kinds of people in the world...

Let me guess, hetero, homo, animalo?
54 posted on 06/27/2005 10:09:20 AM PDT by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: Pikamax

I don't watch the Today show anyway - and this is just another reason not to start.


55 posted on 06/27/2005 10:09:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ruiner

^
That's what I get for posting at work, I have no idea where "presentation" came from.

Back to the desk!


56 posted on 06/27/2005 10:09:55 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: lynxaken
Are gay unions really going to be the demise of marriage?

Like a typical DUh troll, you miss the point. Conservatives don't believe gay marriages will kill straight, we oppose it because it legitimizes an act we consider unnatural and perverse.

Tell me, Lynxaken - have you and your life partner set up your bridal registry yet?
57 posted on 06/27/2005 10:10:28 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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To: lynxaken
the functions of love, commitment and legal rights.

None of which requires a marriage recognized by the state.

60 posted on 06/27/2005 10:15:21 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: lynxaken
So you think animals that practice homosexuality are perverse as well?

It's not a perversion, it's a defect in the genetic makeup of the animal. Darwinism takes care of natural selection by ensuring 'homosexual' animals do not breed and pass on their genetic material.

62 posted on 06/27/2005 10:17:17 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: lynxaken
So you think animals that practice homosexuality are perverse as well

Animals don't possess the intelligence or reasoning capability that humans do, so that is an unfair comparison since they don't understand more than the bare basics of what they are doing. As a human being, you do.

Humanity survives because of procreation - you know, the penis in the vagina thing. I doubt we would have gotten very far if the only desire Adam had was to go around plugging the other guys anuses.
63 posted on 06/27/2005 10:23:09 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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To: lynxaken
The behavior itself is not destructive, only the attitudes towards it.

Ummm, AIDS, STDs, rampant drug and substance abuse. Shall I go on?

67 posted on 06/27/2005 10:25:50 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: lynxaken
LOL! You're making a naturalists argument. Do you think humans should cannibalize each other like animals do?
69 posted on 06/27/2005 10:28:09 AM PDT by hobson
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Interesting thread, gotta check on it later. Busy busy though!


71 posted on 06/27/2005 10:30:52 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: lynxaken
I know that my very charitable and moral brother had no choice in his sexuality

Funny. My gay brother doesn't believe the world has to change just to accommodate him. Guess my brother is nicer than yours.

72 posted on 06/27/2005 10:32:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: lynxaken
You are dishonest if you want to talk facts. We all know homosexual (anal) sex is a very risky type of sex with very high tranmission rate for STDs and AIDS. Homosexuals tend to have more partners, many anonymous, often in conjunction with using hard drugs like crystal meth. Many have AIDS yet still continue to engage in destructive dangerous behavior. Many do so in a carefree militant manner.

Your argument that heterosexuals also do drugs and get AIDS is moot. Your premise that homosexuality is not destructive is ludicrous.
73 posted on 06/27/2005 10:33:01 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: lynxaken
I guess we should start doing fertility tests on couples who want to get married then.

What the heck are you talking about?

74 posted on 06/27/2005 10:34:52 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: lynxaken

"Of course the most obvious is to provide a stable home for raising children"

Marraige itself doesn't provide stability without the two people in the marraige agreement being themselves moral stable people.
Marraige does not solve any problems.
If problems exist before the marriage, they will get worse after the marraige.

Legal unions are also prone to the same thing, but with the added 'benefit' of being 'temporary'.
And if something doesn't have permanence, then it can be thrown away like a used tissue for any and every reason.

Again, such things will only serve to help clog up the already insaen court system.


75 posted on 06/27/2005 10:36:49 AM PDT by Darksheare (Hey troll, Sith happens.)
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later pingout.


76 posted on 06/27/2005 10:37:48 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: lynxaken
Are you proposing that if gays get married suddenly heterosexual men will want to start having anal sex with other men?

How did you make that assumption!? Your balls-out (pardon the pun) advocacy of gay marriage has apparently clouded your mind and is causing some confusion.

By the way, I have two very good male friends who are gay, and as I have said before, I don't care what they do in the privacy of their own home, as long as they don't start sticking it in my face. It's precisely that kind of mentality that is hurting public acceptance of gay rights, not helping it.
78 posted on 06/27/2005 10:40:30 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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To: lynxaken
So you think animals that practice homosexuality are perverse as well? It's a shame you can't just accept that gays are acting on an inherent part of themselves

The difference between man and animals is that ANY dog can boink any other dog but man is capable of thought and choice. Some humans just choose not to think and they act like the animal kingdom.

79 posted on 06/27/2005 10:41:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: lynxaken

http://www.avert.org/statsum.htm

People living with AIDS
At the end of 2003, the CDC estimates that 405,926 persons were living with AIDS in the USA.

Of these,

36% were white
42% were black
20% were Hispanic
2% were of other race/ethnicity.
Of the adults and adolescents1 with AIDS, 77% were men. Of these men,

58% were men who had sex with men (MSM)
22% were injection drug users (IDU)
11% were exposed through heterosexual contact
8% were both MSM and IDU.
Of the 88,815 adult and adolescent women with AIDS,

63% were exposed through heterosexual contact
35% were exposed through injection drug use.
An estimated 1,998 children were living with AIDS at the end of 2003.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#aidsrace

Exposure Category Estimated # of AIDS Cases, Through 2003
Male Female Total
Male-to-male sexual contact 440,887 - 440,887
Injection Drug Use 175,988 70,558 246,546
Male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use 62,418 - 62,418
Heterosexual contact 56,403 93,586 149,989
Other* 14,191 6,535 20,726



80 posted on 06/27/2005 10:43:18 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
"11% were exposed through heterosexual contact"

of that 11% I would say close to 100% lied

81 posted on 06/27/2005 10:46:07 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: lynxaken

84 posted on 06/27/2005 10:54:37 AM PDT by PilloryHillary
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To: Pikamax

The Food Network's new stars are a gay male couple. *sigh*


85 posted on 06/27/2005 10:54:40 AM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: lynxaken

"If being homosexual itself is so destructive then why are there millions of gay men without drug addictions or STDs?"

So if 1/4 or more of gays have these diseases or are infected with STDs they received from their activity that's not an alarming figure?


According to accepted statistics there are something like 4,300,000 Gays and Lsbians in the US. To date around 525,000 have died from AIDS. The majority homosexuals. It can be argued that homosexuals who engaged in intravenous drug use likely spread the disease into the non-homosexual population. The legacy will be that unsafe homsexual practices led to the wide distribution of the virus that now decimates poorer countries.

http://www.homosexuellt.com/infosida/show_article.asp?Idnr=207
Homosexuals experience a wide range of bacterial infections, including gonorrhea, syphilis, shigella, and campylbacter. One study of homosexuals in New York city found that "... 64.3 percent of the [homosexual] men reported a history of gonorrhea and/or syphilis."
http://www.avert.org/aids-america.htm

Men who have sex with men however, are still at a high risk of HIV infection - in 2003 they accounted for an estimated 57% of AIDS cases amongst men and well over half of HIV diagnoses.


86 posted on 06/27/2005 10:59:11 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: lynxaken
If being homosexual itself is so destructive then why are there millions of gay men without drug addictions or STDs? Again, more than half of adults in Africa are infected with HIV,

You need correct info.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that between 1,039,000 and 1,185,000 people in the United States were living with HIV in December 2003. The previous estimate from 2002 showed that between 850,000 and 950,000 people had the AIDS virus.

More Than a Million in U.S. Live With HIV

More than a quarter of the people living with HIV have not been diagnosed, the CDC estimated, and some apparently don't want to know. Valdiserri noted that nearly a third of those who tested positive at CDC-sponsored sites around the country did not return for the test results.

U.S. reaches disappointing milestone in AIDS epidemic

A growing number of researchers question the "official" inflated numbers of HIV/AIDS prevalence in African countries such as Botswana, South Africa and Lesotho. Poor testing, a special diagnosis of AIDS in Africa and erroneous computer-generated estimates by the UN had led to "misleading" numbers, they hold.

Is the African AIDS pandemic a bluff?

U.S. CENSUS DATA SHOWS HOMOSEXUAL COUPLES ACCOUNT FOR 1 PERCENT OF ALL COUPLES

Link with a link

In footnote 42 on page 16 of this legal brief, 31 homosexual and pro-homosexual groups admitted the following: "The most widely accepted study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS). The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual. See Laumann, et al, The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States (1994). This amounts to nearly 4 million openly gay men and 2 million women who identify as lesbian."

Homosexual Urban Legends

87 posted on 06/27/2005 11:01:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: lynxaken
from your CDC link

"The leading cause of HIV infection among African American men was sexual contact with other men"

"Race and ethnicity are not, by themselves, risk factors for HIV infection."

"African American women are most likely to be infected with HIV as a result of sex with men [2]. They may not be aware of their male partners’ possible risks for HIV infection such as unprotected sex with multiple partners, bisexuality, or injection drug use

88 posted on 06/27/2005 11:02:11 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: lynxaken

90 posted on 06/27/2005 11:06:57 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Socialists are blessed with the desire to serve others. That's why most of them work @ McDonalds)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

OH! Just for the record...in before the ZOT.


91 posted on 06/27/2005 11:07:46 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Socialists are blessed with the desire to serve others. That's why most of them work @ McDonalds)
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To: GunnyHartman

close...pu**&s, d%#ks and a$$*oles.


92 posted on 06/27/2005 11:09:20 AM PDT by kallisti
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To: finnman69; lynxaken
Also, posting census data to indicate the number of gays in the United States is ridiculous. Many gay men live in fear of retribution and judgment and the last thing they want to do is indicate their sexuality on a government form.

Yet they want GOVERNMENT RECOGNITION and GOVERNMENT BENEFITS? You are as full of sh*t as your gay brother.

93 posted on 06/27/2005 11:09:53 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

Aw nutz! The mods took away our "toy". *sniff*


94 posted on 06/27/2005 11:11:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: All
Ok, I am so sick of this, I am going to rant for a moment. If you are easily offended, I suggest you skip this post. It is aimed at those who are trying so desperately to get my approval:

First, let me state unequivocally that I DO NOT CARE what people do in the privacy of their own homes. I support the notion that you want to live your life in a way that makes you happy. You know, that whole "pursuit of" thing. In fact, in this great country that's a concept that I and many others are willing to die for. But at some point, you pushed it too far. You weren't happy with your own pursuit of happiness and so you came gunning for mine.

Now you are trying to push my family into condoning or celebrating what you do in your private life. I JUST DON"T CARE. Leave us alone.

Do not force me to hold you up as some kind of paragon of virtue for whatever it is you do and watch you parade it around in public. I don't care if you are straight or gay. Just get it out of my face and away from my children and let us live in peace and oblivion. They deserve a childhood free of the complexities of sexual politics.

In fact, let my children have a childhood free from sexual discourse of any kind. They will learn soon enough. Why, why must they know everything when they are in preschool? That makes me feel violated and angry. Over an issue that I was perfectly happy to leave well enough alone. It has disastrous consequences.

I used to be able to simply avoid it. That made some mad. So you brought it into the streets, and into every form of public entertainment and discourse. I feel like you have become some sort of unhinged stalker. We have tuned out over 60% of all TV channels and TVLand was our last refuge. It is nearly too late for that. We now mostly watch old TV on DVDs. I can't even trust ads to not throw it in your face on the kids channels. It's not that we don't like YOU, it's that we don't want to be privy to your PRIVATE life.

I canceled my subscription to BH&G because it was filled with gay couples. Fine, beautiful house more power to you. I learn from many of you and always have. It's always been there. But at some point, it quit being polite. Now my kids pick it up and thumb through it and ask me questions.

If this was about love, I'd be with you on it. We should love our neighbors. We should respect our neighbors. Even when we disagree with their "lifestyles." But it's not. It's about sex and exhibitionism and predatory practices. And you can't tell me otherwise. Because if it was about love, you would be satisfied with love. You would be happy to have finally come to the end of your pursuit of happiness. But you got there and discovered you aren't happy, so now you are trying to blame it on me.

So, one more time. STAY OUT OF MY FACE. If you are secure in your lifestyle, you don't need my approval. If you need my blessing for whatever you are doing with those you love, you have bigger problems than me.

/Rant. I am sorry for the length. But I needed to get it off my chest.

95 posted on 06/27/2005 11:14:52 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: DJ MacWoW

He was probably the Queen of the Pride Parade in his hometown yesterday.


96 posted on 06/27/2005 11:18:23 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: pollyannaish

Excellent rant. Thank you!


97 posted on 06/27/2005 11:18:38 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: finnman69
He was probably the Queen of the Pride Parade in his hometown yesterday.

LOL!!!

He chose the wrong forum to play on. :)

98 posted on 06/27/2005 11:19:35 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: evets

Yes! Yes! Yessssss! Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh yessssssssssssssssssssss!


99 posted on 06/27/2005 11:19:55 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: pollyannaish

Thank you.

I will never understand why these proud gays insist that everyone openly embrace and approve of their "lifestyle". If they're so secure and happy, why should they care what anyone else thinks of them.

The fact of the matter is, gays have the right to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own homes, and no one will care. But they don't want privacy, they want everyone to acceptance and governmental endorsement.


100 posted on 06/27/2005 11:20:47 AM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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