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Oriana Fallaci goes on trial for anti-Muslim book
United Press International ^ | 10/9/2005 | Elizabeth Bryant

Posted on 06/27/2005 2:53:40 PM PDT by Cincinna

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To: RegulatorCountry

Just don't try order anything at a Boston sub shop or a NY deli with that lingo :)


51 posted on 06/27/2005 4:06:52 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: martin_fierro; Charles Henrickson
IYAM, the whole trial is a Fallaci...
52 posted on 06/27/2005 4:11:48 PM PDT by mikrofon ("How Michel got his Houellebecq")
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To: handy old one

Yup, I already ordered it on Amazon. She is an amazing writer, very clear and cohesive, good common sense springing from years of living history. It is quite an honor, really, to make the Muzzies mad enough to take you to court. Way to go, Oriana.


53 posted on 06/27/2005 4:22:19 PM PDT by bboop
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To: Steve_Seattle

New book -- you can order it ahead, on Amazon, but it is not yet released. Comes out soon, tho. Should be good.


54 posted on 06/27/2005 4:24:07 PM PDT by bboop
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To: Cincinna

I highly recommend "Rage and Pride" to anyone who has not yet read it. It is superb.


55 posted on 06/27/2005 4:26:50 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: M. Espinola

"Just don't try order anything at a Boston sub shop or a NY deli with that lingo :)"

I wouldn't even try. I only "know" a little of it due to summer jobs down around Florence, Marion and Summerville while in college. It's easier to understand than speak for me.


56 posted on 06/27/2005 4:26:57 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Cincinna
"Funny how I don't seem to see such attention from those corners these days."

I'd bet money she appreciates/enjoys being an "infidel" to those folks today..........

57 posted on 06/27/2005 4:29:04 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: Cincinna

i already ordered the book--Screw the french and screw the muslims(very intelligent ,i know,but it's what is called for here)


58 posted on 06/27/2005 4:32:26 PM PDT by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: martin_fierro

It doesn't sound as bad in French.

Bee -GO


59 posted on 06/27/2005 4:35:21 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: Cincinna
i guess this is the speed for the french reader
60 posted on 06/27/2005 4:35:58 PM PDT by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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To: martin_fierro

....but it's the same word in French, so I guess it doesn't help.


61 posted on 06/27/2005 4:36:45 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: Cincinna
Already been published--I've had a copy for two years. Haven't read it cover-to-cover, but have read large portions of it.

She wrote it, then translated it to English herself, and there are a few rough spots, but I enjoyed it greatly. She's a former communist, but she speaks eloquently of the need to defend Western culture, even Christianity (and she's not a Christian, but is sympathetic to it) against the ravages of Islam.

Very thoughtful book, and despite the fact that I'm a capitalist and a Christian, she and I have much we agree upon. She's very intelligent and makes perhaps one of the best cases for the threat Islam represents that I have ever read.

Remember: Italy has a problem with muslims. They're on the front lines. Some of the goings-on in Rome with all the hordes of muslim immigrants will shock the reader.

Get the book. Read it for yourself. Enjoy!

62 posted on 06/27/2005 4:37:23 PM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Cincinna

The Rage and the Pride was published here several years ago. I bought a copy then, and it is very good. I believe you are thinking of her new book, not the one she is on trial for.


63 posted on 06/27/2005 4:40:16 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: StatenIsland

I have it; it's a thin book. Less than 200pp. Rather too long for an essay, but...


64 posted on 06/27/2005 4:40:51 PM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: M. Espinola

Doesn't matter, as in France, that's how bigot is pronounced.


65 posted on 06/27/2005 4:41:11 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: SittinYonder

Yes, and unfortunately the word "Bigot" means exactly the same thing in French as it does in English. However, both Fallaci and Houellebecq - and indeed Bigot - are fighting for the right of all of us to defend ourselves against dhimmitude.


66 posted on 06/27/2005 4:43:58 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Cincinna

Oriana just needs to stay here, where free men still live. A day will come when France and Italy will pay for their stupidity. I vote against ever sending my Grandson to bail their sorry arses out again.


67 posted on 06/27/2005 4:45:25 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: RegulatorCountry
It's like a whole other language
68 posted on 06/27/2005 4:54:01 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Cincinna

Racial hatrid? Last I checked, islam is not a race. The communists putting her on trail are nothing more than apologists for a dark age death cult. I wish there was a way we could raise money to bring Oriana to America!


69 posted on 06/27/2005 4:57:17 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: M. Espinola

"It's like a whole other language"

Gullah sure is. It's a throwback to the Carribean slave trade, a sort of Creole language combining English, French, Spanish, Portugese and certain West African languages. Sounds pretty when spoken, but for the most part I can't tease any meaning out of it. The language survived on the barrier islands, where many freed former slaves were given the proverbial forty acres and a mule. This land is very popular for development now, and the culture and language is in danger of being wiped out. That would be a shame. I love the differences across our country, especially the dialects. The northern Outer Banks of NC still have echoes of Elizabethan or even Cockney speech patterns... oot and aboot the hoose (out and about the house), hoi toide (high tide), soond soide (sound side), that sort of thing. It's fading, which is sad.


70 posted on 06/27/2005 5:04:03 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Cincinna

France is also where former actress Brigitte Bardot was fined last year for her "inflammatory" book on Muslims and gays. Among other things, she lamented "“Islamization of France” and the “underground and dangerous infiltration of Islam.” Further, “Mme. Bardot presents Muslims as barbaric and cruel invaders, responsible for terrorist acts and eager to dominate the French to the extent of wanting to exterminate them,” the court said.


71 posted on 06/27/2005 5:10:53 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: M. Espinola

"Until recently, though, Gullahs (sometimes called "Geechee" elsewhere in the South) hid their unique culture, speaking the dialect in private or not at all. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who hails from the Gullah culture of Georgia, has said he was ashamed of the way he used to speak, and indeed, Gullah was mistakenly cast as bad English grammar."

Link to article in full:

http://www.gullahtours.com/bostonglobe.html


72 posted on 06/27/2005 5:12:16 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Paul_Denton

"I wish there was a way we could raise money to bring Oriana to America!"

Apparantly, Oriana is living in NY. She is suffering from cancer and is in frail health.

It might be possible to contact her publisher and send her support through them.


73 posted on 06/27/2005 5:40:38 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Cincinna

Ms. Falacci is just telling it as it is.


74 posted on 06/27/2005 5:43:28 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (we should not hesitate to resolve the tension in favor of the Constitution's original meaning-Thomas)
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To: RegulatorCountry
That was a very interesting article. I would wholeheartedly agree with Justice Thomas on this overview of this manner of speaking.
75 posted on 06/27/2005 6:35:30 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Cincinna

Cancer? dang that's sad. Prayers for her.


76 posted on 06/27/2005 7:00:21 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: M. Espinola

Shame? You need to get out in the world more. Broadens your perspective.


77 posted on 06/28/2005 7:13:03 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Cincinna
With Oriana until my last breath.
78 posted on 06/28/2005 3:33:09 PM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: an italian

Have you read anything by her, except her terrorism books?


79 posted on 06/28/2005 3:35:20 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

I've read EVRYTHING she wrote, EVERYTHING she's writing and EVERYTHING she'll write. She's fantastic.


80 posted on 06/28/2005 3:36:52 PM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: an italian

Okay...I agree she is fantastic. But I would hardly classify her as a conservative.

True story: In the early 1980s I'm in a barbershop waiting for a haircut and pick up a playboy magazine. After looking at the pictures I stumble across this 10,000 word interview with her. I read it in shock and awe, then actually bought the outdated magazine for $20.00 from the barbershop.


81 posted on 06/28/2005 3:42:15 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
I've never heard from this interview...

In anyway, yes sir... She's not the typical "conservative" but her mind is the best one we have today in Europe. That's sure.
82 posted on 06/29/2005 3:08:22 AM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: an italian

For many, she's best remembered for playing mind games with Henry Kissinger and getting him to make the confession that he sees himself as a hero on a white horse...or wants the publc to see him that way. However, her opposition to Vietnam was bitter and extended and she thought America's involvement in Afghanistant was a mistake -- she would have prefered to let the Soviets have it...etc,. etc.


83 posted on 06/29/2005 10:55:12 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

To me her best book is "a man"...


84 posted on 06/29/2005 11:57:04 AM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: Cincinna
In her book -- a best-seller in Italy and Spain -- Fallaci characterized Muslims as "vile creatures, who urinate in baptistries" and "multiply like rats."

I'm certainly not aware that Muslims are rapidly reproducing.

85 posted on 06/29/2005 11:59:29 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: an italian

Have you read Inshallah? That's brilliant.


86 posted on 06/29/2005 12:00:39 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
Sure I've read it. And when we had an horrible terrorist attack in Nassyria (12 nov) I saw on TV the same scenes Oriana described in that book.

And even "If the sun dies" is really good..
87 posted on 06/29/2005 12:04:45 PM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: Cincinna
"...Two others, including the Human Rights League, simply want disclaimers that its disparaging passages on Islam don't accurately reflect the Muslim religion....

Maybe on BizarroWorld, but down here, it's spot-on.

88 posted on 06/29/2005 12:04:55 PM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: an italian

Okay, my favorite fallaci story. About ten years ago I'm walking down West 57 Street in NYC. And striding (striding!) towards me amid the lunch time crowd is Fallaci. She was wearing this cape like thing that was fluttering out behind her and taking long strides. I was about to stop her to say how much I like her books, when I noticed the expression on her face, which was, "Don't even think of talking to me." People were actually getting out of her way...


89 posted on 06/29/2005 12:08:51 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
My favorite Fallaci stories: When I went to Florence I went to some of her relatives on Ponte Vecchio, I asked them and they said me She was in NY. This summer I passed a mouth in Midtown waiting to see her... And She was in Italy writing her last book "Oriana Fallaci interviews Oriana Fallaci"... This summer I'll come again.

Don't say a word... I'm sooooo luck.
90 posted on 06/29/2005 12:24:13 PM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: durasell

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433064/posts?page=7#7


91 posted on 06/29/2005 12:24:55 PM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: an italian

I don't speak Italian...


92 posted on 06/29/2005 12:27:09 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

pardon?


93 posted on 06/29/2005 12:28:22 PM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: Cincinna
Its only been available in Italian for some time. Hopefully an English translation will be forthcoming. Oriana Fallaci's work is a tribute to the Tuscan dialect that Italians call "la lingua Dei." Literally, divine speech. Latin humanists despised it but there's no denying of all the Romance languages that grew out of the old Latin, Italian is the most musical of them all. And here we have the Eurotrash prosecuting Oriana for telling the world the truth about Islamofascism. Shame on Europe for going after an old lady!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
94 posted on 06/29/2005 12:31:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: an italian

The link you gave me was a post in Italian


95 posted on 06/29/2005 12:53:13 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

Oh no... the post was only a wish to an happy birthday to miss Fallaci... It was not in Italian...


96 posted on 06/30/2005 1:09:03 AM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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