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All the more reason to exersize your 2nd amendment rights.
1 posted on 06/28/2005 1:46:18 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Then does this mean we don't have to pay the taxes that pay their salaries. We pay for the service of protection etc. If the police have no duty to protect us, then just exactly what should we expect them to do? I think these Judges have suddenly dropped 40 points of their IQ


2 posted on 06/28/2005 1:51:21 AM PDT by marty60
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This is nothing new.

(Hartzler v. City of San Jose, 46 Cal. App. 3d 6 (1st Dist. 1975)).


3 posted on 06/28/2005 1:57:31 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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Don't you just love it!
And for years the government has been doing just about everything possible to chip away at our 2nd Amendment rights. So, it is not only harder for we the people equip ourselves for our own defense, but we are now told that the police aren't responsible for defending us either.


10 posted on 06/28/2005 2:19:09 AM PDT by frankiep
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I am just surprised that there were two dissents in that case, even though both predictably came from the left side of the Court. Law enforcement agencies in the United States have never had an obligation to protect any individual.


11 posted on 06/28/2005 2:19:19 AM PDT by snowsislander
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The police have apparently never had a Constitutional duty to protect anyone.

All they really have to do is show up and take good notes.
12 posted on 06/28/2005 2:27:07 AM PDT by SoIA-79 ("The plans differ; the planners are all alike." Bastiat)
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The police are there to preserve order and investigate crime, pretty much in that order. Protection is, and always has been, the individual's responsibility. The very existence of a restraining order is proof of that. If the cops had the job of protecting each of us, no one would need a restraining order.


14 posted on 06/28/2005 2:33:44 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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it seems to me the citizens of every city now have great grounds for a class action lawsuit for false advertising against the police forces of every city that have cop cars painted with to serve and protect on the side and great defenses to use in court if you get arrested for illegal possession of a hand gun in Chicago la or new york or any other stalinist dictatorship of a city that outlaws all firearms possession

16 posted on 06/28/2005 2:33:48 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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18 posted on 06/28/2005 2:39:35 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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To: Nathan Zachary
This ruling affirms a tradition going back to the 19th century... the duty of the police is to protect society, not particular individuals. Self-defense therefore is an obligation that must be exercised by the concerned individual seeking protecting from danger.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
20 posted on 06/28/2005 2:47:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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AMEN! If the cops do not have to respond, then we must have firearms. This argument should destroy gun control!

If the cops pretend to work, then we should pretend to pay them.

21 posted on 06/28/2005 2:48:29 AM PDT by A.B.Normal
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Police motto: Defend and Protect. Police reality: get a good case to the prosecution.


22 posted on 06/28/2005 2:52:07 AM PDT by carumba
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In a major metropolitan area the on duty cop to citizen ratio is one cop to a few thousand citizens at best. Tough job to accomplish if the SC ruled otherwise.

Of course, the 2nd amendment exists, in part, to assist me in facilitating my own protection.

26 posted on 06/28/2005 3:39:10 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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See my tagline.

The worst thing we ever did was to start "professional" police forces. They have turned into the enforcement arm of our leftist, anti-American courts and become a plague on the populace.

A citizens militia would be cheaper, more effective, and less likely to pander to idiotic legal decisions by renegade judges.


28 posted on 06/28/2005 3:49:14 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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police do not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm...

Will this decision make getting a "carry permit" easier in a place like Albany, NY?

33 posted on 06/28/2005 4:11:36 AM PDT by infocats
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police do not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm...

Will this decision make getting a "carry permit" easier in a place like Albany, NY?

34 posted on 06/28/2005 4:11:47 AM PDT by infocats
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police do not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm...

Will this make getting a "carry permit" easier in a place like Albany, NY?

35 posted on 06/28/2005 4:12:42 AM PDT by infocats
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It's more important for them to be out there giving out tickets for drivers not wearing seatbelts.


37 posted on 06/28/2005 4:14:32 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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This from a Court who says the police aren't obligated to enforce restraining orders going along with the decision from the same Court who gave the State and locals as well as the Feds the right to take our land without a true definition of Just Compensation. This is totally out of control.
47 posted on 06/28/2005 4:40:47 AM PDT by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: Nathan Zachary
IIRC, the courts had ruled on this (the same way) a number of years ago...

BTW, last night, the Penn & Teller Showtime show, Bu11$hit had an episode on gun control, and the first 7 or 10 minutes were heavily anti-gun. However, the remaining 20 - 23 minutes were so seriously pro-gun ownership, that they even had Jackie Mason saying that anyone who supports gun control is a "f'n moron!" Gotta love ol' Jackie!

Mark

51 posted on 06/28/2005 5:01:37 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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The Supreme Court ruled... police do not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm...

It's pretty obvious the Supreme Court has developed the same outlook on the Constitution.

54 posted on 06/28/2005 5:41:01 AM PDT by Gritty ("The moment you give up your principles your civilization is dead. Period." - Oriana Fallaci)
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