The great leap backward - The land is no longer free

World Net Daily.com ^ | June 27, 2005 | Vox Day

[af_vet_rr]

I'm not saying that its a conspiracy at all. IMO, it is just a case of both major parties simply being drunk on power. They both want power, over anything and anyone, and are willing to do and say anything to get it. Add that to the fact that the major players in both parties are completely isolated from the average citizen. These guys all work together, and live near each other for a good portion of the year. A good number of them have held the same office for decades (making them senior member and subsequently capable of setting an agenda for others to follow). Think about it, most of the people politicans associate with on a daily basis are other politicians. It stands to reason then, considering all of this, that they would eventually start thinking in pretty much the same way.

All good (and true) points. They are very much isolated from the rest of us, and out of touch. It's like when people try to pretend that President Bush was once a guy just like the rest of us - I always get a good laugh out of that. I don't mean to pick on him, because he's far from alone, he just happens to be a good example.

Very few policians have a truly humble or normal background (and this goes back thousands of years). Those that do, don't last long in Washington.

They do these things, and somewhere in the back of their mind, they think "since it doesn't affect me, it won't affect any of my constituents".

They really are divorced from reality - nobody is going to take their dream home, nobody is going to confiscate their business so that more apartments can be put up.

[af_vet_rr]

I am 36 and every year it seems to grow worse. I can't decide whether it is my personal perspective (father of 3 and middle aged) or is there really a shift taking place.

Things seem to be changing at a rapid pace, and it's hard to seperate truth from exageration.

Just hangin' on for the ride...... and I don't even have cable TV....

36 is not middle aged, because I'm older than you and consider myself middle aged - if 36 was, then I'd be just "old", lol.

Anyways, my view is this. I'm the same Conservative/Republican I was 30 years ago. The Party, on the other hand, is not the same party I joined.

I haven't left the party, the party has left me.

The fact that you have recognized this just in your lifetime tells me I'm not crazy, and it tells me that something is wrong.

[Desron13]

Jim Quinn on his nationally syndicated radio show posed the following:

"At what point does tyranny imposed by a government morally justify the use of violence to overthrow that government."

I think at the current rate our government at all levels is trampling our constitution, the time is not far off. It may be time to start shooting the bastards. I'm sure the second amendment is next.

[vigilo]

"Watching C-Span2.. John Croyn(sp?) of TX got up on the Senate floor discussing this very same issue and requesting the Legislators enact some type of protection for the property owners. To restrict the use of eminent domain by the Federals and that the States should also enact laws governing property protection in the same manner."

I'm sure that'll be just as effective as their fight for constitutional gun rights and against abortion. In better days, the court would have been tarred and feathered for what they have done in the past few years. But, today we are too civilized to do that. I fear we are too civilized to be free. To be free, the lords must be afraid of you. Our lords don't fear us because they know we're too civilized to every actually DO anything beyond writing angry letters. As a free people, we have become a joke.

[Strutt9]

"Our lords don't fear us because they know we're too civilized to every actually DO anything beyond writing angry letters. As a free people, we have become a joke."

Have we really become too civilized or just extremely complacent?Letting or hoping others will do what we must do for ourselves. Is it hopping that someone else fight this fight rather than initiating the fight?

[NCSteve]

The solicitor general, the President's representative before SCOTUS, argued in favor of the city.

AFAIK, this is not the case. City of New London was represented by a private law firm from Hartford and the Bush Administration filed no brief. Do you have references to the contrary?

[frankiep]

I really have no idea, that's why I was asking. I won't believe any answer on this either way though unless it is accompanied with a reference.

[vigilo]

"Have we really become too civilized or just extremely complacent?Letting or hoping others will do what we must do for ourselves. Is it hopping that someone else fight this fight rather than initiating the fight?"

No doubt that's much of it. But it sill boils down to being too 'civilized'. i.e. a bunch of Nancy boys. And I do not excuse myself from my own condemnation.

[NCSteve]

I won't believe any answer on this either way though unless it is accompanied with a reference.

Always a good policy.

Here is the reference I used: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/04-108.htm

[Tree of Liberty]

I was very mistaken. The solicitor general did NOT file any brief in the case. I took some second hand information as truth and did not verify it. I apologize.

The only comment from the executive branch that I've been able to find is from Scott McClellan on June 24:

Q Thank you. Scott, does the President plan to introduce legislation to counter the Supreme Court's decision on eminent domain? Isn't a man's home his castle?

MR. McCLELLAN: First of all, on the Supreme Court decision from yesterday, we were not a party to that case. The President has always been a strong supporter of private property rights. Obviously, we have to respect the decisions of the Supreme Court, and we do.

[NCSteve]

I took some second hand information as truth and did not verify it. I apologize.

Been there, done that. No worries, mate. It happens.