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Civil War authority Shelby Foote dead
AP via CNN.com ^ | 28 June 2005 | Unattributed

Posted on 06/28/2005 10:45:07 AM PDT by Moose4

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To: Moose4

Sad to hear. The PBS Civl War documentary with his insight was one of the best things I have ever seen on TV.


51 posted on 06/28/2005 11:36:52 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Moose4

The story goes that Burns was just supposed to talk to Foote for a couple of hours. Foote was so good, that Burns ended up with 11 hours of usable footage. Frankly, I would pay more to see the uneditted footage than I would for Burns' stilted, agenda driven finished product.

Godspeed, Mr. Foote.


52 posted on 06/28/2005 11:42:18 AM PDT by danno3150
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To: Moose4

This is very sad news for me. I was fortunate to meet him a couple of times over the years. He was always very kind. When I was a kid, he lived just a short distance from my family outside Memphis. Rest in peace Mr. Foote.


53 posted on 06/28/2005 11:43:16 AM PDT by DarthDilbert
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To: kayak; Dog

A loss...Foote MADE that Burns Civil War series.


54 posted on 06/28/2005 11:43:46 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*)
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To: WKB; bourbon

Mississippi ping


55 posted on 06/28/2005 11:43:53 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Moose4

I saw him once on CSpans booktalk. I believe he wrote all his books longhand, using an old "dip" fountain pen, where he had to dip the pen's nib in an inkwell everytime, after writing out just a few words.


56 posted on 06/28/2005 11:44:28 AM PDT by BansheeBill
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To: Moose4
RIP Mr. Foote.


57 posted on 06/28/2005 11:46:50 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: danno3150

Frankly, I would pay more to see the uneditted footage than I would for Burns' stilted, agenda driven finished product.


Agreed. Mr. Foote was the only thing that kept me from throwing my TV out in the front yard while watching Burns' "historical" epic...


58 posted on 06/28/2005 11:50:31 AM PDT by awelliott
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To: awelliott

I've read all three volumes of Foote's Civil War chronicles and I got the sense that ol' Shelby thought that the wrong side had won the war. It sort of amused me that Burns, given his agenda, completely missed that and made Foote a focal point of his piece.


59 posted on 06/28/2005 11:57:10 AM PDT by danno3150
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To: bobbdobbs
That works out to 1000 words per volume. Doesn't seem like a lot. :-) Leave it to CNN.

It was a 3,000 page trilogy. Maybe the CNN version has an abridged version with really, really big print?

60 posted on 06/28/2005 11:57:21 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: WKB; MagnoliaMS; MississippiMan; vetvetdoug; NerdDad; Rebel Coach; afuturegovernor; mwyounce; ...

BIG MS PING.


61 posted on 06/28/2005 11:59:12 AM PDT by bourbon (Hal Needham is my hero.)
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To: EllaMinnow
"his shorter Civil War books like "Stars in Their Courses: The Gettysburg Campaign."

I believe that book is an extended excerpt from Volume 2 of his Civil War trilogy.

62 posted on 06/28/2005 11:59:14 AM PDT by PMCarey
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To: Ditto; x

ACW Bump


63 posted on 06/28/2005 12:01:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Moose4
I fell in love the with old guy during Ken Burn's,The Civil War.

RIP to a Southern Gentleman.

64 posted on 06/28/2005 12:01:26 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: bourbon


Oh my goodness. I think husband has some of his books.


65 posted on 06/28/2005 12:02:14 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Billthedrill
Nope. That'd be a Mississippi Delta accent.

Link to obit in the Clarion-Ledger.

66 posted on 06/28/2005 12:05:18 PM PDT by bourbon (Hal Needham is my hero.)
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To: mware
Some of my favorite commentary from Foote was when he was talking about the men both North and South who fought in that war. It was as if he personally knew them.
67 posted on 06/28/2005 12:06:43 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: Constitution Day

Sad...

His "The Stars in their Courses" and "The Beleagured City" are a must buy in audiobook.... read by the author of course.


68 posted on 06/28/2005 12:07:58 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: devane617

That was the golden era of PBS.


69 posted on 06/28/2005 12:08:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: mware
"I fell in love the with old guy during Ken Burns,The Civil War."......

You and me both. I bought his books for my ex and when we divorced, he took them! Funny, he never fought for custody of our son. I'm not sure if that says more about my ex or about Mr. Foote's books!
He was a true Southern gentleman and there are not that many of those left...suave demeanor, draw-you-in-accent, dashing manner, quaint and respectful. Class all the way!
70 posted on 06/28/2005 12:08:47 PM PDT by 4everontheRight ( "I'm learning to dread one day at a time" --- Charlie Brown)
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To: BigCinBigD

Quote: But, O Sarah! If the dead can come back to this earth and flit unseen around those they loved, I shall always be near you; in the gladdest days and in the darkest nights . . . always, always, and if there be a soft breeze upon your cheek, it shall be my breath, as the cool air fans your throbbing temple, it shall be my spirit passing by. Sarah do not mourn me dead; think I am gone and wait for thee, for we shall meet again . . .




(2005 version)
Yo S Wazzzz up? Almost got my balls almost got shot off today....

P.S. This is not a cutdown on todays soldiers but our corsening and lowering of society in general.


71 posted on 06/28/2005 12:10:06 PM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: RadioAstronomer; RightWingAtheist; Xenalyte; Tax-chick; MississippiMalcontent; tarzantheapeman

Bibliopath ping.

72 posted on 06/28/2005 12:10:50 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: DarthDilbert
This is very sad news for me. I was fortunate to meet him a couple of times over the years.

I understand he was very much the gentleman but did not care for the limelight and that he wouldn't sign autographs, even of his own books.

73 posted on 06/28/2005 12:13:23 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: PMCarey
I believe that book is an extended excerpt from Volume 2 of his Civil War trilogy.

You're right, they are excerpts. We bought "Stars in Their Courses" on our last trip to Gettysburg, and "The Beleaguered City" on our last trip to Vicksburg. They make better travel companions than their over-800-page predecessor.

74 posted on 06/28/2005 12:13:25 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: Physicist

I am sorry to read this. :-(


75 posted on 06/28/2005 12:14:24 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Americanexpat

His three book series on the Civil War was excellent. He will be missed.


76 posted on 06/28/2005 12:14:58 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Moose4

Did an hour with him for PBS when the Civil War miniseries premiered. Met him at a studio near his house in Memphis. A small, soft-spoken and courtly gentleman, spoke just the way he did in the series. Very, very smart too, with the mind of novelist, which he was first and foremost. He got teary-eared only once, when we talked about his life-long best friend, the late Walker Percy, an even greater novelist.
Shelby invited me to go out and get some barbecue after the shoot, and I had to decline because my crew wanted to see Graceland. I still regret that one.
But at least I do have some correspondence from him, written in his elegant hand with a dipped pen . . .


77 posted on 06/28/2005 12:19:29 PM PDT by giant sable
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To: Ditto
I understand he was very much the gentleman but did not care for the limelight and that he wouldn't sign autographs, even of his own books.

Actually I find this to be the act of a gentleman.

He wishes his privacy to be respected.

I always found it somewhat rude to approach someone famous and take their photograph or autography

78 posted on 06/28/2005 12:20:18 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: EllaMinnow
They make better travel companions than their over-800-page predecessor.

See my post 68, they're even better for travelling.

79 posted on 06/28/2005 12:22:17 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Moose4
He was an artillery officer in WWII, a talented novelist, and a great historian. I very consciously modeled my style of researching history on his Narrative History of the Civil War. Coming just a few days after my grandfather died, this hurts almost as much.

Thank you, Mr. Foote for rekindling my interest in the War Between the States and for showing me the value of learning the details and the funny little anecdotes that humanize history. I'll never forget you.

80 posted on 06/28/2005 12:23:15 PM PDT by Bombardier (Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Reenact, and stamp out farbiness!)
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To: Moose4
Now this is a real loss. A mind like that and the ability to put words to paper come along far too rarely.

Rest in peace, good sir. You've earned it.

81 posted on 06/28/2005 12:24:30 PM PDT by LilDarlin (Being very feminine got me this far; it will get me the rest of the way, too!)
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To: Tax-chick

When did Brian die??????? Damn....this week is sucking more and more all the time......


82 posted on 06/28/2005 12:25:05 PM PDT by Bombardier (Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Reenact, and stamp out farbiness!)
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To: Bombardier

Enjoyed his work tremendously. He will be missed.


83 posted on 06/28/2005 12:26:48 PM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: Publius
His 3-book history of the Civil War is a must-read for anybody serious about history.

I have two copies of his three-part history (one for reading, one for the bookshelf), and the MP3 version, which I believe runs about 160 hours.

Certainly my favorite Civil War historian.

RIP

84 posted on 06/28/2005 12:27:03 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier
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To: Bombardier

Couple of weeks ago?


85 posted on 06/28/2005 12:27:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Benedicere cor tuo! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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To: Non-Sequitur; x; mac_truck; M. Espinola
Interesting Interview with Shelby Foote.
86 posted on 06/28/2005 12:32:42 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: billnaz
I've read his trilogy over and over again, and found only one error, where he puts Spencer carbines in the hands of John Buford's troops as they held off Ewell's corps west of town. Buford's guys carried mostly Sharps carbines. The Spencer carbine didn't get in the hands of the troops until the following October.

There has certainly been a lot of confusion about whether Buford's men had single shot carbines or Spencer repeating rifles (as I learned in researching my ancestors' 8th IL Cav). It's too bad Foote never cleared it up in later printings or speeches.

Nevertheless, his writing and speaking style was superb, and the fact that he spent 20 years researching and writing his three volume narrative is impressive.

87 posted on 06/28/2005 12:34:05 PM PDT by ravinson
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To: Tax-chick

Damn.....I was in line of battle a couple times with his 5th NY Zouaves. Man, this week is just getting better and better..... /sarc


88 posted on 06/28/2005 12:35:08 PM PDT by Bombardier (Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Reenact, and stamp out farbiness!)
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To: BigCinBigD

"..we have death so constantly before our eyes that it loses it terrors, and the question with us is not so much whether we shall die or not, but how we shall die and among what surroundings."

Capt. William Wheeler, 13th NY Light Artillery
Sept. 5, 1863, Catlett's Station, VA
killed in action June 22, 1864 at Kolb's Farm, GA

so long Mr. Foote.


89 posted on 06/28/2005 12:36:13 PM PDT by teacherwoes (If you can read this...thank a caring teacher)
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To: Bombardier

I'm so sorry for your loss ... much more personal for you than for those of us who've only seen a person on television.


90 posted on 06/28/2005 12:37:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Benedicere cor tuo! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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To: Tax-chick

Reenacting is a small world. Some of the people I met and came to call friends have been fairly well known. But Brian as well.....dang.....


91 posted on 06/28/2005 12:40:24 PM PDT by Bombardier (Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Reenact, and stamp out farbiness!)
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To: mware
I always found it somewhat rude to approach someone famous and take their photograph or autography

I agree. I have met a number of "famous" people and have never once asked for an autograph. I do think it rude, and also I really have no interest in having their signature on a sheet of paper (with the exception of perhaps a blank check. ;~)).

But if I ever had the pleasure of meeting Foote, and if I had one of his books at hand, I probably would have been tempted to ask him to sign.

92 posted on 06/28/2005 12:40:52 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Bombardier

I'm very sorry.


93 posted on 06/28/2005 12:47:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Benedicere cor tuo! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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To: ladtx

Amen to that, first Brian Pohanka, and now Mr. Foote. It's a tough time to be in the Civil War historical community.


94 posted on 06/28/2005 12:54:02 PM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: Moose4

I wore out several editions of his books. RIP, old companion of my gray matter.


95 posted on 06/28/2005 12:59:07 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Braak

I had not heard that Brian Pohanka died. You are right, it is a tough time for the Civil War historical community.


96 posted on 06/28/2005 1:05:36 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: Ditto
I do have some signed copies of books, but always obtained them at book signings. The only autograph I have is of Dr. Jonas Salk, and that hangs on the hall of my study.
97 posted on 06/28/2005 1:12:33 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: danno3150
I don't know that he thought the wrong side won the war, but unlike some of the other historians on the Burns piece, with their clear northern bias, he showed reverence and respect for the men on both sides. I remember him saying he admired most Lincoln, Lee, and Nathan B. Forrest (not necessarily in that order!)

A truly wonderful American..we need more like him.

98 posted on 06/28/2005 1:14:20 PM PDT by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: ravinson

Some of the confusion might come from the fact that members of Custer's Michigan Brigade on the eastern side of the battlefield carried Spencer repeating rifles, or so I've heard.

Hats off to your brave ancestors in the 8th Illinois Cavalry. I understand that a few of my ancestors were in Ewell's corps opposing them.


99 posted on 06/28/2005 1:14:45 PM PDT by billnaz (Retired Soldier and Proud NRA member.)
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To: Moose4
His appearance in the PBS documentary was one of the highlights of that production. Mr. Foote's audio book "Stars in Their Courses", is superb.

Thank you, Mr. Foote

100 posted on 06/28/2005 1:15:52 PM PDT by muleskinner
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