Skip to comments.Allstate fires manager for Christian beliefs concerning homosexuality
Posted on 06/28/2005 11:42:01 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER
Allstate has fired a manager because he expressed his Christian beliefs concerning homosexuality. Matt Barber was a manager in Allstate's Corporate Security Division. On his own time, and without identifying himself as an employee of Allstate, he wrote a column posted on several websites which was critical of same-sex marriage.
An outside homosexual group complained to Allstate about the column. Because of their support for the homosexual agenda, Barber was immediately fired and ushered off company property.
The message is clear: To work for Allstate one must not publicly express their Christian belief in the Bible's teaching on homosexuality. Barber was fired because he did. Homosexuals can criticize and condemn the Bible's teaching and they are welcomed, but Christians must remain silent.
Allstate has sent a message to all their agents: If you are a Christian and believe the Bible's teaching on homosexuality, you will be fired. While Allstate touts its diversity, that diversity does not include Christian beliefs on homosexuality.
First, send Allstate Chairman Edward M. Liddy an email to register your complaint demanding both a public apology and reinstatement for Mr. Barber with back pay. Then call your local Allstate agent and tell him or her you will not be purchasing any insurance from them.
You can find a listing of Allstate agents in your area by clicking here . Tell the Allstate agent you will tell your friends about their disdain for Christians who believe the Bible's teaching on homosexuality.
Email Allstate Chairman Liddy Now!
Donald E. Wildmon, Founder and Chairman American Family Association
If he had an ounce of sense, he would have left his workplace and gone to the nearest lawyer's office. Allstate will pay for this one.
I think the termination was absolutely reasonable. How could a person work for Allstate and believe in God, too? (humor)
I am sure he will be in good hands.
(First really bad joke ping!)
Allstate just committed suicide.
Maude Flanders: "Ned doens't believe in insurance - he sees it as a form of gambling."
If he associated the Allstate name with his letter, I might understand this. But seems like both Allstate and the complaining employee ought to be sued.
exactly he needs to sue! sue! sue! When these companies realize their discriminatory pro homo policies cost them in the purse they'll start to get straight.
This is Christian Hunting, Caligula style.
And like a good neighbor..........nevermind.
I think that it could be a lawsuit against the guy who reported it, too. He intentionally interfered with the manager's contract with Allstate. Give him a taste of his own medicine.
Short story, my brother had a fender bender on a country road where a fellow with no insurance came around a blind curve too fast, crossed over the middle of the road and struck my brother head on. My brother filed a claim on his uninsured motorist policy since he only had liability and uninsured motorist coverage. Allstate then hired a lawyer to represent the GUY WHO RAN IN TO MY BROTHER so they wouldn't have to pay the $900 repair cost.
I dropped Allstate within the week.
Having a political life, including writing editorials and opinion pieces for public consumption, might be looked down on by workplaces that don't want to have to deal with your political life. Everyone should be aware of this risk.
If Archie Bunker were only here:
He would read the subject line, whince and say:
This is religious-based discrimination, which is a federal civil rights violation.
How long before the ACLU steps up and sues Allstate?
He should give Allstate some aflac on this one....
How did they find out who he worked for.....
I think Allstate was wrong but what possible case could this guy have (unless he's covered by state law)?
Private employer. They make the rules, for the most part. Especially if this state is an "at-will" employment state.
I think everyone agrees about that ;~D
It is discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion, which is illegal in all 50 states.
At will laws at work.
"On his own time, and without identifying himself as an employee of Allstate, he wrote a column posted on several websites which was critical of same-sex marriage."
Doesn't jibe with this:
"An outside homosexual group complained to Allstate about the column."
If he was unidentified, how did the homos connect him to his company?
No case there at all. The guy who reported it merely relayed factual information. I don't even see where the information could even be remotely considered secret.
It seems Alstate believes in God, because they sure don't cover "acts of God".
This Pee's me off. I'm cancelling my Alstate insurance TODAY.
I'll be sure to let them know that I can't use a company that curcumvents the constitution and restricts an emplyee's free speach and freedom of religion rights. ( I won't bother with the crappy insurance reasons, and i had this in mind regardless)
We can't just continue to take it up our "best intentions" forever. We should honor men of morals and convictions like this guy appears to be. Hopefully he wasn't a hypocrite, that ran around spewing hatred and anger without and love in his heart for anybody. I was like that for a long time.
Anywho, unless some key points are left out of this story, it sounds like a slam sunk. Even in today's liberal (vile) atmosphere.
Please post the e-mail information so I can join you in sending an e-mail to them.
I would never use Allstate anyway but...
Maybe he gave his name, but not his occupation. If this is the case then the homo's are getting incredibly aggressive in squelching dissenting opinion. Scary!!
Except the guy already worked there. But I know what you mean.
Still, I don't think he's covered by Title VII. I may be wrong.
Consequently, these folks should also know that we as private citizens have every right to drop them as our insurers and spread the word that they are a No Christians Allowed zone, which hires and fires based on personal politics. If that's how they wanna play...
An outside homosexual group complained to Allstate about the column.
Allstate should lose its collective shirt over this - blatant violation of civil rights.
I don't see how that would be necessary under the law of most states. The only question is whether he knew that it would affect the contract between them, and he had no privilege to interfere.
My guess is that it was his intent to interfere. The best defense would probably be that he had a privilege, but if Allstate is held to have violated this guy's rights, I don't see how any privilege would apply.
This story has been posted several times already. It turns out one site that posted the column, MensNewsDaily.com, added to the bio line on the article the fact that Barber worked for Allstate. He didn't put the line himself, nor did he consent for it to be added.
But they aren't allowed to fire anyone for their religion. Hence, the reason for the suit.
All State waived the deductible for both drivers.
Oh, and the guy has filed a lawsuit over this.
While I think it was a stupid decision to fire him, I still maintain that the right of a business to terminate an employee when ever they feel like it, for what ever reason, should stand. The consequences for stupid and/or biased decisions should come from somewhere other than the legal system, IMO. Customers may express their opinions about the matter with their wallets.
In my opinion that shouldn't be enough to warrant firing, but certainly solves the mystery of how the offended reader was able to know where he worked.
Sure they can. There's tons of ways an employee can be fired, disciplined, etc for practicing their religion.
Title VII only allows for some basic protections & there are many ways an employer can circumvent those.
I support what Matt said and his right to say it. Where he goofed up is that he allowed the name of his employer to be associated with his article. See the information at the end of the article in MensNewsDaily.
J. Matt Barber is a non-practicing attorney, an undefeated heavyweight professional boxer (Matt "Bam Bam" Barber), and a professional jazz drummer in the Chicago Land (IL) area. In addition to his Law Degree, Barber holds a Master of Arts in Public Policy. Matt Works for Allstate Insurance Company as a Territorial Senior Manager in Allstate's Law and Regulation Corporate Security (Internal Fraud Investigations) Department.
I think this is grounds for a stern warning, but certainly not grounds for firing someone. If this had been a pro-deviant lifestyle article, or pro-jihadist screed, I'm doubtful that the employee would have even received a warning let alone get fired over it. So, I'm not excusing Allstate for their obvious political correctness, but Barber really opened himself up to having this happen to him.
What happens when someone is fired for being pro-gay marriage? Has it been tried?
Well, good thing I don't use crooked Allstate anyway. I never have, I never will.
Thank God that I work for a place that doesn't care what I do and think on my time. Thankfully, my boss and I agree on most issues anyway.
There are no laws against "interfering" as you call it. Quite the contrary, you're free to voice your objections to either party in any contract at any time. If you have some factual information to divulge in the process, all the better. The only danger is if you invent something, at which point it becomes slander.
When asked, I tell people my insurance carrier is: Allstatefarmbureau.
But how did the group connect Barber to the insurance company? It turns out one site that posted the column, MensNewsDaily.com, added to the bio line on the article the fact that Barber worked for Allstate. Barber says he did not include that fact in the original column submission but that the site "disclosed that without my knowledge or consent."
It's buried in the article, but apparently his bio accompanying the article identified him as an Allstate employee.
He did not get fired for his Christian views. He got fired for associating his company with his personal views (views that the company neither holds nor supports).
Well that adds a whole new layer to the story...
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