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Rove Should Apologize. He Went Way Too Easy on Them (Yes!!)
OPINION EDITORIALS.COM ^ | JUNE 27, 2005 | JUSTIN DARR

Posted on 06/28/2005 2:49:42 PM PDT by CHARLITE

After years of attacks from the Left on the War on Terror, Karl Rove has finally said it like it is. America's Liberals have never approached the War on Terror with the seriousness it deserves. Oblivious to the obvious irony of Illinois Senator Dick Durbin's coerced and disingenuous apology for comparing the actions of American troops at Guantanamo Bay to those of the Nazis coming within the same week as Rove's comments, Democrats in Congress rushed to the aid of their ideological brethren attacking Rove and demanding either his resignation or a similarly disingenuous apology to that of Durbin.

This is more than the usual game of Washington tit for tat politics. While Karl Rove was only intending to criticize Moveon.org and other radical Leftist groups, he hit far to close to the truth for the comfort of the Liberals on the Hill, who above all else do not want the American people to know what they really see as the signifigance of 9/11 in American history. This is why the Liberals rolled out their venerable and well used "outrage machine" in response to Rove's comments. If the voters knew what the real opinions of the Democrats are, the Democrats could look forward to being the minority party for the next 10 years. And for this Karl Rove should have criticized them.

Rove was far too soft on the Liberals. He attacked a few fringe groups on the Left for recommending "therapy" rather than war as a response to 9/11 when he should have condemned the entire Democratic Party leadership and Liberal establishment not for just seeing 9/11 as a crime rather than act of war, but for attempting to manipulate the tragedy for policial gain and the advance of their agenda at the expense of American lives.

Just as a quick reminder. Here are a few of the statements of prominent Liberals and Democrats that vividly demonstrate Rove's point that Democrats are now trying to pretend do not exist.

Democrat Congressman Dennis Kucinich, "Afghanistan may be an incubator of terrorism, but it doesn't follow that we bomb Afghanistan." ("Offer the Hand of Peace," "Cleveland Plain Dealer," 9/30/01.)

Former Democratic Presidential Candidate Al Sharpton, "America is beginning to reap what it has sewn." ("The New York Times" 12/1/02)

Democratic Congresswoman Marcy Kapur, "One could say that Osama bin Laden... [is] very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown." (The Associated Press, 3/6/03).

Democratic Senator Patty Murray, "[Bin Laden has been] out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads... and the people are very grateful. We haven't done that." (World Net Daily, 5/17/05.)

Michael Moore, "[L]et's examine our contribution to the unsafe world we live in." (www.michaelmoore.com, 9/12/01.)

Democratic Senator Joseph Biden, the bombing campaign of Afganistan "reinforced existing stereotypes of the United States as a high tech bully." (Associated Press, 10/23/01.)

Democratic Senator and Presidential Nominee John Kerry, "War on Terror is far less of a military operation and far more of an intelligence gathering, law enforcement operation." (Associated Press, 3/19/03.)

The list can go on. But for a short cut you might want to read "Beyond September 11. An Anthology of Dissent," edited by Phil Scranton, which highlights the writings of over 30 of the most prominant Liberal thinkers who in one voice state that not only is the United States wrong in protecting itself from terrorism, but responsible for the attack to begin.

Then, after the Democratic leadership gives Michael Moore the seat of honor at the Democratic National Convention, they run around screaming, "How can you say we are soft on terror?"

Despite their denials, the Democratic leadership has gone far beyond just comments aimed at undermining the war effort and our safety, they have backed their words with actions.

Shortly after 9/11, nearly all Democrats supported military action in the War. This was not so much out of a sense of duty to their nation, but political survival. Opposing military action in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 would have been political suicide and the Democrats knew it. So they voted for the War and Patriot Act in the hopes the War on Terror would be fast and clean, leaving plenty of time for the voters to forget about it before the next election cycle as happened after the first Gulf War.

However, everything has not gone according to plan to for Left. The War has not been as easy as their weak resolve can stomach. More importantly, the War has kept the attention of the voters on national security, the traditional strength of the Republicans, and away from the Democrats’ preferred domestic policy agenda. The Democrats are faced with the prospect of remaining the minority party unless something drastic, like the War going poorly, happens. So, immediately after the initial public sentiments after 9/11 died away, the Democrats initiated a policy designed if not to actually limit our ability to fight the War, at least give the impression we cannot win.

Some of these policy decisions have been the opposition of the use of racial and religious profiling to identify security risks on airlines, demanding the closing on Gitmo and release of illegal terrorist combatants, and calling for a definite deadline for the pull out of American troops from Iraq. None of these changes would serve to help the United States' image abroad or improve our ability to fight the War, but they do serve the purpose of creating political scandal where there is none and maintaining as steady stream of negative news coverage to a liberal media that is so desperate to see Republicans out of power that they will consider retyped "official" memos where the originals have "mysteriously" disappeared as valid news sources.

This is what Karl Rove should have talked about. The systematic deception of the American people and undermining of the War by the Democratic Party for nothing more than a few seats in the House and Senate. The worse thing that can happen to the Democrats is for people like Dick Durban and Howard Dean to go out and actually articulate the belief and support of the Democrats in the ideas of groups like Moveon.org. It is alright to believe it, even act on it, but never say it. To the Liberals, gaining political power at the expense of another 9/11 and a few thousand more American civilans dead, is a price well worth paying.

Comments: justindarr@juno.com
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; alqaeda; apology; democrats; hagelisanidiot; karlrove; liberals; lyingtraitors; outrage; reaction; terror; terrorism
"While Karl Rove was only intending to criticize Moveon.org and other radical Leftist groups, he hit far to close to the truth for the comfort of the Liberals on the Hill, who above all else do not want the American people to know what they really see as the signifigance of 9/11 in American history."
"To the Liberals, gaining political power at the expense of another 9/11 and a few thousand more American civilans dead, is a price well worth paying.

1 posted on 06/28/2005 2:49:51 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Normal patriotic Americans knew exactly what Rove was talking about.


2 posted on 06/28/2005 3:00:09 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: CHARLITE

Alternatively, he could apologize by saying how sorry he is that the liberals are anti-American and pro-terrorist.


3 posted on 06/28/2005 3:00:29 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: nuffsenuff; Loyal Buckeye; ThreePuttinDude; Beth528; SMARTY; Ghost of Philip Marlowe; CyberAnt; ...
"Normal patriotic Americans knew exactly what Rove was talking about."......which might mean that these liberal screamers don't have nearly the support that they somehow or other believe they do.

Right?

Char :)

4 posted on 06/28/2005 3:02:51 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE
Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash. "We've got to ask, why is this man so popular around the world?" said Murray, according to the Vancouver Columbian newspaper. "Why are people so supportive of him in many countries that are riddled with poverty?" "out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building DAY CARE facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven't done that."

Didn't include the entire quote for the esteemed Senator Murray. She is SOOOOooooooooooooooooooo STUPID that she thinks Bin Laden is building DAY CAR FACILITIES; you know, so that women can park their kids while they go off to work or something. How stupid do you have to be? What part of Muslim Jihadist Fundamentalist Fanatical Killer does she not understand? Certainly not the Fundamentalist Muslim part; because they don't think women should work outside the home. No working outside the home = No Day care facilities.
5 posted on 06/28/2005 3:03:10 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: Baynative; doodles2

You should read this! - PING


6 posted on 06/28/2005 3:03:34 PM PDT by noexcuses
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To: CHARLITE

Correct.


7 posted on 06/28/2005 3:03:40 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: CHARLITE

Thanks for posting this--this is the Read of the Day


8 posted on 06/28/2005 3:04:29 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Don't suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: Mylo
she thinks Bin Laden is building DAY CAR FACILITIES; you know, so that women can park their kids while they go off to work or something.

Like getting their heads lopped off.

9 posted on 06/28/2005 3:05:53 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Don't suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: CHARLITE
"So they voted for the War and Patriot Act in the hopes the War on Terror would be fast and clean, leaving plenty of time for the voters to forget about it before the next election cycle..."

While I'd be the first to chime in on the suggestion that Dems only voted as they did for political reasons, I actually think there is an overlooked item in all of this discussion. That is the possibility that lib/dems were actually VERY frightened by 9/11, knew they had no ideas, they knew their own incompetence in previous years on the matter of international terrorism would probably be exposed, and they recognized (though would never admit it) that adults were in charge.

Once they knew this administration was doing all it could to keep things in check (once again, something they wouldn't admit to) - sometime after the first anniversary of 9/11 - they started their incessant harping again.

I throw it out for discussion. Maybe, just maybe...they really were afraid for sorry butts, and now feel safe enough to be obstructionist whiners?

10 posted on 06/28/2005 3:07:14 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

I can guarantee that's what Kerry, Pelosi, and Daschle talked about during that "40 minutes" where they claimed they couldn't speak.


11 posted on 06/28/2005 3:09:46 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: CHARLITE

"... liberal screamers don't have nearly the support that they somehow or other believe they do."


You are so correct .. and it was Kennedy who said the democrats may not be in the majority in the senate .. but they "represented the majority of the American people".

Which is ludicruos!


12 posted on 06/28/2005 3:12:08 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CHARLITE

Former Democratic Presidential Candidate Al Sharpton, "America is beginning to reap what it has sewn."

Rev. Al has me in STITCHES!

Sewn as opposed to SOWN.


13 posted on 06/28/2005 3:14:55 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

You are correct!

I remember the Democrats post 9/11 saying "Thank god Gore isn't president"


14 posted on 06/28/2005 3:16:14 PM PDT by listenhillary (FR is infiltrated with defeatists, socialists, pessimists, and fools all with intent to destroy us)
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To: CyberAnt
The morning talk show on WRKO Boston (yes, in MA) had as its poll question yesterday: What should Karl Rove do? Apologize? Resign? Nothing?

They read the results this morning. I forget the number for the first two, but "Nothing" got 72%.

It is the same station that carries Rush and Howie Carr, but the morning show isn't really conservative. Peter Blute is a Republican (former member of Congress, not liberal, but not really conservative), and Scotto is, well, it's hard to say . . . nuts? They were both sort of stammering when they read the results; they found it very hard to believe.

15 posted on 06/28/2005 3:18:38 PM PDT by maryz
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To: listenhillary; anniegetyourgun
I remember the Democrats post 9/11 saying "Thank god Gore isn't president"

And I remember stories of people seen removing the Gore bumper stickers from their cars shortly after 9/11.

I'll never forget the admission by Gerald Posner -- who was a signatory on a full-page ad accusing President Bush of stealing the 2000 election -- that he in actuality did not know that Bush stole the election, but rather he thought he knew better than the voters so went along with the accusation. He thought the ends justified the means.

He said he was horror-stricken post-9/11 at how close Gore had come to winning the White House.

17 posted on 06/28/2005 3:28:41 PM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: Baynative
The liberals I know don't seem to understand the problem with their core belief, which is that the US would be so much better if it cherry-picked the "best" parts of socialism and discarded the parts about gulags and such. They simply have no ability to grasp that every system has its own good and bad elements, and you can't simply "pick" parts and graft them to a completely incompatible system.

The liberals argue (several have used these precise same words) "But socialism has never been done properly!" As I've said many times here, when capitalism is not done perfectly, there are people out of work; when socialism is not done perfectly, there are gulags and mass graves. And there's no such thing as perfect.

18 posted on 06/28/2005 3:32:56 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Don't suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: alnick

I've always wondered how many Democrats woke up 9/12/01 as Republicans.


19 posted on 06/28/2005 3:33:02 PM PDT by listenhillary (FR is infiltrated with defeatists, socialists, pessimists, and fools all with intent to destroy us)
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To: maryz

"... they found it very hard to believe."


Yes .. even when presented with the TRUTH - the democrats/liberals are loathe to accept it. It's part of their arrogance that they know better than the lowly unwashed.


20 posted on 06/28/2005 3:35:15 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CHARLITE

bttt


21 posted on 06/28/2005 3:42:50 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Someone please ping me when Barak Obama utters an original thought.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I've been on an anti-socialist rant for some time. I get extremely irritated that I bump into them on FR. Usually on the medical related threads.

Socialism has only killed 100 million, can't we try it one more time?


22 posted on 06/28/2005 3:46:51 PM PDT by listenhillary (FR is infiltrated with defeatists, socialists, pessimists, and fools all with intent to destroy us)
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To: Mylo
"Senator Murray. She is SOOOOooooooooooooooooooo STUPID that she thinks Bin Laden is building DAY CARE FACILITIES."

Sorry that I missed this when you posted it. It's a great comment! You're absolutely right. Murray reflects the typical liberal stupidity.......what I call the "Kumbaya mentality." Just sing caribbean folk songs with these people, while doing the Jimmy Carter "Habitat" thing, and all will be well...."

Thanks for your remarks. Excellent!

Char :)

23 posted on 06/28/2005 3:58:14 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Once they knew this administration was doing all it could to keep things in check (once again, something they wouldn't admit to) - sometime after the first anniversary of 9/11 - they started their incessant harping again."

Your entire comment is excellent, Annie. And, in keeping with the above quote from it, it wasn't long before these creeps (led by Daschel and Pelosi) began creating the theme of Bush's reaction policies to 9/11 being "disturbing" and "troubling," their two favorite adjectives.

The top Democrat leadership were alarmed (possibly panicked) by the tremendous surge in GWB's poll numbers.....up to the high 80's or low 90's. That was when they saw that they had to begin attacking this brave president. Little by little, they chipped away at the genuine affection, appreciation and admiration that the American people felt for this man.

It is for that alone that I will never forget and never EVER forgive the Democrat party. Never! They attempted to destroy a president who, IMO, will emerge as one of the top 5 best presidents America has ever had. (Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Reagan and George W. Bush).

Bush supporter though I am, I nevertheless also think that he hasn't done nearly enough about securing our borders. That's just my personal opinion. Even without the threat of terrorists coming in mixed with the floodtide of illegals, the U.S. still can't possibly absorb up to a million new people each year.

Char :)

24 posted on 06/28/2005 4:06:39 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: Darkwolf377
when capitalism is not done perfectly, there are people out of work; when socialism is not done perfectly, there are gulags and mass graves.

Concisely expressed. I'll have to remember that one!

25 posted on 06/28/2005 4:09:20 PM PDT by maryz
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To: CHARLITE

I agree with you, and President Bush supporter that I am, I wish he would start utilizing the weapons we have, threaten Syria and Iran for their interventions, and move our soldiers out of harm's way.


26 posted on 06/28/2005 4:13:29 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: CHARLITE
Unfortunately, when it's a match-up between the Evil Party and the Stupid Party, the Evil Party generally wins - usually because the Stupid Party folds it's four aces against a busted flush and a good bluff.

Karl Rove got in was a sharp left jab, that's all. People who want to know the score already know the score.

A plurality of the American people have the alarm set to Snooze and just want to get back to "normal". They just want the unpleasant noises to stop.

27 posted on 06/28/2005 4:30:00 PM PDT by Gritty ("Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder" - Arnold Toynbee)
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To: CHARLITE
Rove's apology should read:

"I am so sorry that the liberal left was in favor of therapy and investigation rather than going to war as a response to 9/11. I am so sorry that their solution would have been ineffective."

28 posted on 06/28/2005 4:53:26 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: CHARLITE
I was surprised that when Ms. Murray said it that nobody else seemed to notice the logical disconnect or projection that made this kooky liberal think that a Muslim Fundamentalist was building day care facilities so that Afghan women could work outside the home. She was condemned for her comments, but I can't remember anyone else pointing out the 'day care facilities' line. I was surprised that it was left out when she was quoted in the post; had to include the full quote and observation.

What does it take for Secular Liberal Feminist Socialists to idolize a Muslim Fundamentalist Misogynist Terrorist and project their values upon them?

Unfortunately the answer is 3000 dead Americans.
29 posted on 06/28/2005 5:08:42 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: CHARLITE

Those that attack the Coalition AND THOSE THAT VOTED FOR THEM are anti-Iraqi and pro-terrorist.

Unfortunately that includes my mother.


30 posted on 06/28/2005 5:24:18 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Some day we may have to choose whether we'll be a criminal or a collaborator.)
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To: Mylo
I don't know what Senator Murry is talking about. The Army National guard was in Panama not to long ago, building schools, roads, bridges and digging wells for water. They have done this almost every year. We do this in other countries too.

If she as a US Senator doesn't know this and can praise an avowed enemy of this country she needs to be impeached for incompetence and stupidity.
31 posted on 06/28/2005 5:27:12 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: CHARLITE

Thanks for the ping!


32 posted on 06/28/2005 8:45:25 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: CHARLITE

Liberals allow the most liberal people to become their voice. Encourage Jimmy Carter to sit by someone more appropriate at your next convention. Don't elect Howard Dean to lead your party . Don't let George Soros be such a major player. Get rid of your wacko fringe and then Karl Rove will not have such an easy target.


33 posted on 06/29/2005 9:39:27 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: CHARLITE

The top Democrat leadership were alarmed (possibly panicked) by the tremendous surge in GWB's poll numbers.....up to the high 80's or low 90's. That was when they saw that they had to begin attacking this brave president. Little by little, they chipped away at the genuine affection, appreciation and admiration that the American people felt for this man.


It is for that alone that I will never forget and never EVER forgive the Democrat party.


I will never forgive the Democrats for giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Dick Durban, Ted (the swimmer) Kennedy, Robert (sheets) Byrd, Dingy Harry Reid, etc. have done more to hurt our efforts in the war on terror than the terrorists could ever dream of.

After last night's speech I saw Joe Biden saying that Iraq was a recruiting tool for terrorists and that George W had emboldened them. This from a man who fits that description perfectly.


34 posted on 06/29/2005 9:56:59 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan
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