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James Lileks: A Drink That Implies Flavor
The Minneapolis/St Paul Star Tribune ^ | June 29, 2005 | James Lileks

Posted on 06/28/2005 6:53:32 PM PDT by quidnunc

Fiends. Fiends! Not even Pottery Barn has had the gall to mail the first Early Late Summer 05 catalog. Well, let's restore our sense of perspective with a true summer topic: summer drinks. I'm not going to do this feature-section style and trot out some fancy recipe that requires mashed mangoes, truffle juice, Spanish sea salt for the rim and Peruvian tequila pressed from Inca mummies. I'm talking about the stuff we buy at Target because it's three bucks for a 12-pack.

Usually I stock up on lemonade and cola, and that's it. But on my last trip I saw an entirely new variant on the Coca-Cola paradigm: a black-and-white can called Coke ZERO. At first, you're wary; what if the can's empty? Can't say they didn't warn you. Then you're happy: finally, something that puts Pepsi One in its place. Hah! You thought you were so cool, with your one-calorie drink, but little did you know that the eggheads at Coke had managed to eliminate even the final, stubborn calorie, the one that always hung on the side of the can and wouldn't let go. You can almost imagine the moment they perfected the formula, and the lone calorie squirted out of the test tube like a watermelon seed expelled by a yokel: ptui! Then they beat it with their shoes. Evil, nasty calorie! You die now!

It's a mystery to me why people drink regular soda, frankly; if you're supposed to consume no more than 2,500 calories a day, it doesn't make sense to take half of them in the form of high-fructose corn syrup. You might as well just implant those jiggly liter bottles in your belly and take the stuff through the stomach lining. Of course, not everyone likes diet soda, because:

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TOPICS: Editorial; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: lileks
Quote:

Road construction. It can be a pain, but the end is worth it. You've got a choice: You can complain about lousy roads or you can complain about construction to fix them — it's not fair to complain about both!

Indeed, but that won't stop the kvetchers.

1 posted on 06/28/2005 6:53:32 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

"It's a mystery to me why people drink regular soda, frankly; if you're supposed to consume no more than 2,500 calories a day, it doesn't make sense to take half of them in the form of high-fructose corn syrup. You might as well just implant those jiggly liter bottles in your belly and take the stuff through the stomach lining."


Amen! If you are a woman, your daily calorie intake should be closer to 1,500 if you aren't that active. If you want to lose some weight, try going cold turkey on anything containing high-fructose corn syrup, and go easy on the cane sugar as well.


2 posted on 06/28/2005 7:01:56 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

Can you actually still get cane sugar in anything anymore?

;)


3 posted on 06/28/2005 7:05:09 PM PDT by ECM
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To: ECM

Sweet tea (here in the South). I drink far too much of it, but at least it doesn't contain corn syrup. For some reason, that is supposed to be worse for the body than cane sugar.


4 posted on 06/28/2005 7:10:24 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: ECM

Ever drink Jolt? "All the sugar and twice the caffeine."


5 posted on 06/28/2005 7:11:05 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: quidnunc
This review just confirms to me that taste buds vary more in the interpretation of diet drinks than regular soft drinks.

I like regular Coke. I hate Diet Coke. I think Coke Zero tastes amazingly close to regular Coke. However, I know people who think Diet Coke tastes the same as regular Coke. Some of those people like Coke Zero, and some think it tastes awful. Some can't tell the difference between the three.

Now that there's Coke Zero, I'll probably never drink another Diet Coke. And there are Diet Coke drinkers who will never like Coke Zero. It makes me wonder if yet another formulation would satisfy a THIRD constituency of dieting Coke drinkers who don't like either Coke Zero or Diet Coke.
6 posted on 06/28/2005 7:14:35 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: quidnunc

You obviously are not aware of my diet rules:

A diet coke and a Milky Way balances each other out, no calories.

Broken Oreos contain no calories, they leak out of the broken ends. Eat them with no fear.

Always put your scale on the "NEGATILE". That is the tile in the bathroom that the scale reads one pound less than any other tile.


7 posted on 06/28/2005 7:22:04 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: beezdotcom

I had my first Coke Zero yesterday, and hadn't been clued in ahead of time about what it was supposed to taste like. I was suprised to find out that it tasted exactly like regular Coke to me. It doesn't quite taste exactly like regular Coke once it warms up though.


8 posted on 06/28/2005 8:11:58 PM PDT by mhx
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To: mhx

I drink Sam's Choice diet cola. The taste is about the same as any other diet cola. But the important thing is that it is only fifty cents for a two liter bottle.
I can't see spending more than that for flavored water.


9 posted on 06/28/2005 8:18:55 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: beezdotcom

I saw Coke Zero at the store and couldn't figure what was the difference between it and Diet Coke. I figured it was a marketing tactic to get people who normally avoid diet sodas to try it. Personally, I haven't tried it. I do drink both Pepsi and Coke, but I also drink Diet Coke, especially the caffeine free type if I know I going to sleep soon. I don't want sugar or caffeine in me when I'm trying to sleep. I avoid Diet Pepsi because it's gross.


10 posted on 06/28/2005 8:29:45 PM PDT by graycamel
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To: beezdotcom

I drink Diet Coke and recently tried Diet Coke with Splenda. Thought it would be better, but it was vile. To some people, it probably tastes more like regular Coke, but to me, it tasted way too sweet, like chugging Coke syrup. It might be pretty good with half the sweetener, but people are so used to getting too much sugar and too much salt, if you dial down either one, they complain there's no flavor.


11 posted on 06/28/2005 8:30:14 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: ECM
"Can you actually still get cane sugar in anything anymore?"

Well, yes, but you have to live near Ft Worth...


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12 posted on 06/28/2005 8:35:24 PM PDT by decal (Where were YOU when AndyScam broke? Sluthering, perhaps?)
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To: quidnunc

Do they still sell Coke C2?


13 posted on 06/28/2005 8:40:08 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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14 posted on 06/29/2005 5:35:01 AM PDT by Constitution Day (FREEHLL)
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To: Cecily
Sweet tea (here in the South). I drink far too much of it, but at least it doesn't contain corn syrup. For some reason, that is supposed to be worse for the body than cane sugar.

The small intestine can absorb only so much corn syrup. The rest is converted into deadly gases that pollute the environment and contribute to global warming.

15 posted on 06/29/2005 5:48:32 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (Ignore alien orders.)
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To: JusPasenThru
The small intestine can absorb only so much corn syrup. The rest is converted into deadly gases that pollute the environment and contribute to global warming.

I'm dreadfully sorry, but I just had to say that the juxtaposition of your topic and your screen name made me chuckle. :-)

16 posted on 06/29/2005 6:13:16 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: quidnunc

17 posted on 06/29/2005 6:17:44 AM PDT by Petronski (Oligarchy about one create least hand for anything)
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To: quidnunc
One of these days, restaurants are going to figure out that sometimes people are willing to buy a diet soft drink that is caffeine-free. I drink Diet Coke all the time, but occasionally I'd like to do without the caf. In a restaurant, I have to choose between diet and decaf.

Ah, well. In the grand scheme of things, I've lived several decades with this injustice, and I suppose I'll survive a few more.

18 posted on 06/29/2005 6:17:53 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: Petronski
Oligarchy about one create least hand for anything

Eh?

19 posted on 06/29/2005 6:19:15 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

It's part of a random string of words I got in a spam e-mail, but it almost seems to make sense.


20 posted on 06/29/2005 6:27:17 AM PDT by Petronski (Oligarchy about one create least hand for anything)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
One of these days, restaurants are going to figure out that sometimes people are willing to buy a diet soft drink that is caffeine-free

Every time I fill out a comment cart, I add a comment to this effect. Still waiting for it to become the norm (I know of one place where I can get a regular or C/F Diet Coke, but, as a pizza joint, it's particulaly Atkins-friendly...)

21 posted on 06/29/2005 6:30:09 AM PDT by kevkrom (“It’s good to remember whom people turn to when they’re desperate — and it ain’t Kofi Annan.”)
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To: ECM; Cecily; decal; Constitution Day; JusPasenThru
Can you actually still get cane sugar in anything anymore?

In the US, unless it specificly says "Cane Sugar" on the package it is probably beet sugar. They're both sucrose.

Glucose and Fructose (fruit sugar) are monosaccharides. They have the same chemical formula (C6H12O6) but different shapes.

Two monosaccharides combine to form a disaccharide and a water molecule is released. For example, one glucose and one fructose combine to form one sucrose (table sugar). Other disaccharides are lactose(milk sugar) and maltose(precursor to beer).

'La bonne cuisine est la base du véritable bonheur.' - Auguste Escoffier
(Good food is the foundation of genuine happiness.)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

22 posted on 06/29/2005 6:40:18 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Petronski
It's part of a random string of words I got in a spam e-mail, but it almost seems to make sense.

Somebody set you up the bomb.

23 posted on 06/29/2005 7:56:21 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: LonePalm
In the US, unless it specificly says "Cane Sugar" on the package it is probably beet sugar.

Not likely. All the beet sugar plants in the area I grew up in went out of business long ago. The more productive cane sugar is cheaper to import than beet sugar is to produce domestically. Corn syrup is even cheaper.

24 posted on 06/29/2005 8:00:07 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: LexBaird
Actually domestic sugar beet production is 3-4 times sugar cane production as of FY'04. (Source: USDA)

'La bonne cuisine est la base du véritable bonheur.' - Auguste Escoffier
(Good food is the foundation of genuine happiness.)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

25 posted on 06/29/2005 10:00:04 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm
Could be so now, but all the beet sugar processing plants in Idaho and Utah went belly up in the 70's. The only beet farmers there now grow them for cattle feed. I do know that beets produce less sugar per ton than cane.

See this article. In part: "To ensure high sugar prices, the Department of Agriculture constrains the supply by designating the overall domestic sugar consumption in advance. FY 2005's allotment is about 8.1 million tons. The 2002 Farm Bill set the foreign import ceiling at 1.53 million tons, but the administration only allowed 1.23 million tons for FY 2005, which is the amount determined by the WTO Uruguay Round Agreement. As Kudlow suggested, CAFTA's 109,000 tons increase is nothing compared to the 300,000 tons the administration could add. The Farm Bill also mandated a fixed proportion between the cane sugar and beet sugar production of 54.35 percent to 45.65 percent, respectively."

In short, domestic beet production is being propped up by subsidies and import controls on foreign cane sugar.

26 posted on 06/29/2005 10:26:28 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: LexBaird
I have no arguement with what you posted.

I approach the subject from a culinary standpoint. Either way its not as sweet as a winning lottery ticket.

'La bonne cuisine est la base du véritable bonheur.' - Auguste Escoffier
(Good food is the foundation of genuine happiness.)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

27 posted on 06/29/2005 10:32:06 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: quidnunc
I'm talking about the stuff we buy at Target because it's three bucks for a 12-pack.

Now you're talking. But I just got five 12-packs for five bucks this weekend at Shaws, including a 12-pack of Coke Zero. I like it. Hard to tell the difference between it and Diet Coke, except the initial sip tastes a little bit more like real Coke.

28 posted on 06/29/2005 10:41:26 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Cecily
If you want to lose some weight, try going cold turkey on anything containing high-fructose corn syrup, and go easy on the cane sugar as well.

I watched my 16-yr-old nephew down a 2-liter bottle of Pepsi and half a blueberry pie at a family gathering last Thanksgiving. You might be surprised that he's a fat pig.

29 posted on 06/29/2005 10:43:31 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan

I hope he will shape up some day. I can't believe that schools now allow vending machines on the premises, but I suppose they make some money from it.


30 posted on 06/29/2005 10:55:18 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: HHFi
At least everyone here knows that they didn't get the same make and model of tongue.
I tried Diet Coke with Splenda and absolutely loved it. It's sweeter than regular diet coke but isn't close to the gross, syrupy sweetness of regular coke.
31 posted on 06/29/2005 10:56:41 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G

I tried the Diet Coke with Splenda recently. (It was on sale, and I had a coupon, so it came out free.) It wasn't bad, but I still like the regular diet Coke better. Have you ever noticed that the caffeine-free stuff doesn't seem to have as much carbonation?


32 posted on 06/29/2005 6:58:08 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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