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Muslim cleric from Russia held at Guantanamo reports Qur'an desecration
Associated Press by way of Winnipeg Sun ^ | 28JUN05 | JIM HEINTZ

Posted on 06/28/2005 10:22:34 PM PDT by familyop

MOSCOW (AP) - A Muslim cleric formerly held at Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba said Tuesday U.S. guards there regularly desecrated the Qur'an by putting it into a toilet, although he added he never witnessed it himself.

Airat Vakhitov, who described himself as a former imam of a mosque in Tatarstan, a majority Muslim republic in southern Russia, is one of seven men released from Guantanamo in 2004 and returned to Russia. He and the six others were held in Russia for three months, then released a year ago.

Vakhitov said at a news conference organized by the state RIA-Novosti news agency guards in Cuba threw the Qur'an in the toilet. But he later told The Associated Press he did not witness the actions.

"A Palestinian named Mahir, who was in a neighbouring cell, had seen it and told me about that," Vakhitov said. "Many other people in Guantanamo also told me about that."

A spokesman at U.S. Southern Command in Miami, which oversees the prison, declined to comment on the specifics of the allegations. But he said such claims were found to be untrue in an investigation released last month by Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, commander of the joint task force at Guantanamo Bay.

That report showed "no Qur'ans are flushed down the toilet at Guantanamo," spokesman Lt. Col. Jim Marshall said. He said many al-Qaida members use allegations like these to help increase recruiting.

A statement from Pentagon spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Flex Plexico did not specifically address Vakhitov's allegations, but said "it is important to note that al-Qaida training manuals emphasize the tactic of making false abuse allegations."

Vakhitov said he was held both by forces from Russia and its breakaway region of Chechnya on suspicion of spying. He said he later moved to Tajikistan, where he claimed to have been kidnapped by members of the radical Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, affiliated with al-Qaida, and then taken to Afghanistan, where he was held by the Taliban and then sold to U.S. forces.

Vakhitov said when he was held by U.S. forces at Kandahar, Afghanistan, he personally saw Qur'ans desecrated.

"In Kandahar, they tore up copies of the Qur'an and even put it in a bucket of feces," he said.

In May, Newsweek magazine published - and later retracted - a story that claimed interrogators at Guantanamo flushed the Muslim holy book down a toilet.

The administration of U.S. President George W. Bush blamed the report for deadly demonstrations in Afghanistan and protests throughout the Middle East. The Pentagon later disclosed five instances in which U.S. guards mishandled the Qur'an.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; 200505; 200506; 2006; airatvakhitov; catchandrelease; chechnya; clerics; flushedkoran; gitmo; guantanamo; imams; imu; kandahar; libyths; newsweek; quran; retraction; russia; tajikistan; tatarstan; terrorism; vakhitov
"He and the six others were held in Russia for three months, then released a year ago."

...Russia...not Chechnya. "One man's terrorist is..."

1 posted on 06/28/2005 10:22:36 PM PDT by familyop
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To: BringBackMyHUAC
Ping!
2 posted on 06/28/2005 10:23:08 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop

So what!!!! Punk, I am more than your equal, and I will not bow down to your scumbag prophet, ever!


3 posted on 06/28/2005 10:26:28 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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WOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 06/28/2005 10:27:13 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: familyop

Flush flush.. I like this trend.


5 posted on 06/28/2005 10:27:21 PM PDT by LAURENTIJ
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To: familyop
"although he added he never witnessed it himself."

Laughable. I happen to know this cleric actually flushed the Koran down the toilet, although I never witnessed it myself.

6 posted on 06/28/2005 10:28:34 PM PDT by Williams
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To: vpintheak

Don't you understand? The messsage is that every OTHER religion deserves respect, except yours. Every other family deserves protection, except yours. Every other country's sovereignty is sacred, except yours, and so on ...


7 posted on 06/28/2005 10:30:22 PM PDT by Williams
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To: familyop
"....they tore up copies of the Qur'an and even put it in a bucket of feces."

Hey kids.....you can do this at home.

8 posted on 06/28/2005 10:31:51 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: familyop
although he added he never witnessed it himself.

Why is this news, and why is this dude free?

9 posted on 06/28/2005 10:32:11 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC
Have a look at this from a quick search.

RFE/RL

"Mintimer Shaimiev, the 68-year-old president of Tatarstan, said he made his decision to stay in power for another term at the request of Russian President Vladimir Putin. . . . Yesterday, Putin formally nominated Shaimiev and submitted his candidacy to Tatarstan's legislature for approval. Shaimiev's candidacy is to be considered by the republican State Council within 14 days. Under federal laws, if the Tatar parliament fails to approve Shaimiev for president, Putin has the authority to dismiss the State Council.

With the move, Shaimiev thus becomes one of the first regional leaders to support Putin's decision to abolish elections and instead appoint the heads of the 89 administrative regions.
"

So it's under the Russian Federation government.
10 posted on 06/28/2005 10:35:00 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: ncountylee
A bucket of feces?

Maybe somebody should inform this cleric that in the Western world, we have ... indoor plumbing.

11 posted on 06/28/2005 10:35:12 PM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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To: familyop

I don't care!!


12 posted on 06/28/2005 10:35:13 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: All

So let me get this straight. This guy knows a guy whose cousin knows a guy who was told by another guy that his cousin's friend's brother had seen a guard flush a Koran down the toilet? Come on. You lying terrorists can do better than that. Only the America-hating, Liberal morons in the MSM would publish something as dumb as this.


13 posted on 06/28/2005 10:36:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Echo Talon
"Why is this news, and why is this dude free?"

...because the Russian government set him free.
14 posted on 06/28/2005 10:39:08 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop
How can anyone believe these clymers from the Turd World, when they speak of books being flushed down toilets..

Hell, most of them saw their first flush toilet in Guantanamo --- and couldn't know it's impossible to flush a book down a toilet...

NO ONE seems to have seen the dastardly act....
In this case, the source was a Palestinian!
WHO in their right mind believes a Palestinian?

Jeeeez....the press needs to STOP printing these stories and contributing to the misinformation getting back to the already irrational, lunatics in the Arab world.

Semper Fi
15 posted on 06/28/2005 10:39:18 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: familyop

These kinds of articles should be headlined:

"Murderers and Attempted Murderers Held at Gitmo . . . "


16 posted on 06/28/2005 10:40:21 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: river rat
"How can anyone believe these clymers from the Turd World, when they speak of books being flushed down toilets.."

...exactly, and well said.
17 posted on 06/28/2005 10:42:12 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I'm stuunned I tells ya. A mooozluuum would lie? What next? Representation in our Senate? Oh yeah, they already have that. Just ask Dick Durbenladen.


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18 posted on 06/28/2005 10:42:25 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: familyop

grrr


19 posted on 06/28/2005 10:45:03 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Williams
Ya know, it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference between these pathetic little Muslim fruitcakes and most DemocRATic politicians.

Geez, is it like a religion with these moonbats? The Holy House of "Keep Repeating Nonsense Until Enough Dumb American Voters Believe This Verbal Vomit"?

20 posted on 06/28/2005 10:45:08 PM PDT by kromike
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To: rawcatslyentist

Yup!


21 posted on 06/28/2005 10:50:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: AmishDude

A good project for our kids though.


22 posted on 06/28/2005 10:55:09 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee
Hey kids.....you can do this at home.

Call a news conference, and say you're going to burn a Bible. Watch what doesn't happen.

Call a news conference, and say you're burning a koran. Watch the media show up to record the police arresting you on some vague charges of disturbing-the-ragheads.

23 posted on 06/28/2005 10:56:29 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: 300winmag
...the police arresting you on some vague charges of disturbing-the-ragheads.

Too true.

But can still enjoy in private or with close friends.

24 posted on 06/28/2005 11:02:16 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee
"A Muslim cleric formerly held at Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba said Tuesday U.S. guards there regularly desecrated the Qur'an by putting it into a toilet, although he added he never witnessed it himself".

This isn't news! I guess if a muslim says it, it must be true now, or could it be, it's just the popular thing to say now because you will get your name in the paper?

John Kerry regularly passes government secrets to the Ayatollah in Iran, and other enemies of the USA. I never seen it, but he regularly does it.

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25 posted on 06/28/2005 11:27:18 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Good photoshop job!


26 posted on 06/28/2005 11:32:45 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: AmishDude
A bucket of feces?

Maybe somebody should inform this cleric that in the Western world, we have ... indoor plumbing.

They keep that bucket of feces right next to the flush toilet. Flush toilets are strictly for drinking out of and koran flushing at Gitmo.

Sheesh. They aren't even good lies, but that doesn't stop the media from printing it.

27 posted on 06/28/2005 11:34:52 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: familyop

Old News Mr. Terrorist. Haven't you heard we don't care whether the quran was desecrated. You better call home and tell momma because you won't get any sympathy here.


28 posted on 06/29/2005 12:03:16 AM PDT by puppypusher
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