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This really disturbs me (vanity)
6/29/05 | Thomas Jefferson II

Posted on 06/29/2005 6:12:22 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II

Clinto said in Houston former First Lady Barbara Bush "announced us. And she said she has started to call me son. I told the Republicans there, I said don't worry, every family has one, you know, the black sheep. I told them, this just shows you the lengths the Bushes would go to get another president in the family. I wish I could get them to adopt Hillary."


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Everytime I see one of these guys, I see the other. With Hillary the obvious front-runner, what are the chances that the Bushes help Barbara's Daughter-in-law into the White House. I want to puke everytime I see these two guys together.
1 posted on 06/29/2005 6:12:22 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Well you must have really tossed your cookies reading about Billy Graham's tongue bath with both Bill and Hillary last week.

Truth is, conservative principles just don't mean the same thing to the elite as they might to you or me. Fine slogans and a terrific way to reach voters, but not a good thing to allow to regulate one's social calendar.


2 posted on 06/29/2005 6:17:16 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (NEW and IMPROVED: Now with 100% more Tyrannical Tendencies and Dictator Envy!)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
I want to puke everytime I see these two guys together.

Then don't look.

3 posted on 06/29/2005 6:18:41 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Testimony to the proposition that we should be looking for a Third Party political outsider in 2008.


4 posted on 06/29/2005 6:21:52 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Their only mutual interest is fudging on their golf score cards. :-)


5 posted on 06/29/2005 6:23:13 AM PDT by verity (Big Dick Durbin is still a POS)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

It disturbs me, too. H.W. doesn't seem to have any more discernment than to haul bill clinton around like the family pet. What's to stop someone seemingly so devoid of common sense than from one day opening a can of motor oil and pouring it on his Corn Flakes?. Really.


6 posted on 06/29/2005 6:27:06 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Just another disgraceful moment. This just shows what we are up against. I have this eerie feeling that Hillary is going to SLITHER to the center and not being sure that the Republicans will muster up a strong candidate she may take the White House. A Cheney/Guiliani ticket might be the only chance that we have, and Cheney said he has no intention to run, and Guiliani says he loves the private sector.


7 posted on 06/29/2005 6:30:09 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Beez-a-bubba is a black sheep alright!


8 posted on 06/29/2005 6:30:21 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Does it hurt Hillary or help Hillary? How many people actually believe Bill and Hill are still together? Can Bill keep his ego in check so his "wife" can run?

I think Bill will be Hillary's worst enemy during the election.


9 posted on 06/29/2005 6:32:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
It disturbs me that the Bush Family and the Graham Family would allow itself to tarnished and used by the Clinton Partnership for image building!

WTF!!! Its been said politicians are accentually all alike and this friendship between the Clintons and Bushes seems to prove it.

41 & Barbara don't seem to be bothered by what the Clinton say or do to harm their son's presidency and this country!

10 posted on 06/29/2005 6:33:02 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

I am a cynic when it comes to politics; therefore, this is how I view this whole relationship:

The Clintons don’t like anybody but themselves. Their friendships are based on using people for their own gain whom they later dump. What is there to gain from the Bush “friendship?” Clinton wants to be Secretary General of the UN and will need President Bush’s support. Should he achieve this, Clinton will never speak to the Bush family again.

What is there to gain from the Clinton friendship? Just another friend. The Bush family asks nothing in return.


11 posted on 06/29/2005 6:34:03 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: TexasCajun
41 & Barbara don't seem to be bothered by what the Clinton say or do to harm their son's presidency and this country!

Because it does not matter now. He has already been elected to a second term. They cannot hurt him, politically.

12 posted on 06/29/2005 6:36:48 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: AppyPappy
Pls purchase Klien's book on Hillary, read it and pass it along.

This book really identifies exactly who and what Hillary really is and how manipulative, demanding and controlling she is.

We can't let Hillary become the first Lesbian President!

13 posted on 06/29/2005 6:36:53 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Bush and Clinton go waaaaaaaay back....back to their days of business in Arkansas.


14 posted on 06/29/2005 6:37:08 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Some day we may have to choose whether we'll be a criminal or a collaborator.)
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To: David
Testimony to the proposition that we should be looking for a Third Party political outsider in 2008.

No we have to keep voting Republican so we can win the White House then things will turn around, oh wait that didn't work...we have to keep voting Republican so we can keep the House of Rep. then things will turn around, nope that didn't work either...we have to keep voting Republican so we can 'win back the Senate' then things will turn around...darn it, running out of catchphrases for reasons to keep voting Republican....

15 posted on 06/29/2005 6:40:00 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: TexasCajun

Yes, they are rehabilitating Bill's image. By rehabilitating Bill's image, they are helping Hillary get elected. Perhaps Savage's original claim after the Clinton library opening that they are going to install Hillary next is not as far fetched as I originally thought.


16 posted on 06/29/2005 6:40:20 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (Even the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.)
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To: David
Testimony to the proposition that we should be looking for a Third Party political outsider in 2008.

Funny, that's just the strategy that got Clinton elected in '92 to begin with. I'm sure it's an option that Hillary is pursuing, likely with the witless help of McCain.

17 posted on 06/29/2005 6:40:36 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
...They cannot hurt him, politically.

Huh???? 2008 is 3 years away!

The democrats take their orders from Hillary, not Reid and not Dr. Mean.

The President can't even get his U.N. Ambassador confirmed and you say they can't hurt him politically.

-have another cup of coffee and reevaluate that-

18 posted on 06/29/2005 6:41:17 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

OH! And the Bushes are stupid and do not realize this. They will help Bill get in the UN, and Hillary get in the White House. Yeah, the Bushes have become quite successful being used by establishment liberal democrat out of the kindness of their hearts. I'm starting to feel better now.


19 posted on 06/29/2005 6:44:57 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: billbears

It always seems like the Republicans are just a few party members short of "pushing through their agenda."

First it was, oh if when win the Presidency then we can push through out agenda. Bush got elected, but the Senate was still even. Then Jeffords jumped and they need more Senators to "push through their agenda." Then they went up to 52 Senators, but it was the RINOs holding them back. Now with 55 Senators they now need 60. Of course if they got 60, then they'd need 65 to account for RINOs.

It's like the Republicans are holding a carrot stick out in front of us. Many have abandoned conservative principles because they think going to the center will keep them in power. I guess they never learned from 1992.

The failure of the Democratic party is bad for conservatives. When there is no reasonable opposition, there is nothing to keep the Republicans in check.


20 posted on 06/29/2005 6:48:43 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (Even the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.)
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To: TexasCajun
The President can't even get his U.N. Ambassador confirmed and you say they can't hurt him politically

I'm sure that Walker is sitting in the White House right wondering how bad it is going to hurt him politically if he does not get hid UN Ambassador confirmed. I can see him pacing back and forth saying to Laura ... "If I can't get this guy confirmed it is going to squash my chance of becoming the Baseball Commissioner."

21 posted on 06/29/2005 6:50:21 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: verity
"Their only mutual interest is fudging on their golf score cards. :-)"

Anyone who believes this is their only mutual interest has been hiding their head in the sand since about 1990. Much more here than meets the eye and the original posters concerns should be taken seriously.

22 posted on 06/29/2005 6:51:59 AM PDT by Lloyd227
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To: Barney Gumble
Get the new Hillary book, it has lots of good background on Hillary and her ambitions.

Hillary Rodham is a closet liberal feminist 100% and has to ride the coattails of a man to get to where she is today.

She is so driven that she would compromise the real Hillary Rodham for power.

23 posted on 06/29/2005 6:54:15 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

How can the world ever hear about Jesus if we don't get close to them?

Be real.


24 posted on 06/29/2005 6:54:21 AM PDT by Preachin' (Georgia finally saw the light in 2000.)
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To: billbears
Testimony to the proposition that we should be looking for a Third Party political outsider in 2008

Testimony that we need to realize that we have to start a second party. Let's realize that we do not have a two party system but a one-party system with two ugly heads. The only reason that these jokers keep playing this two party bad act is because they know that if we ever figure out that there is only one party we may go out and form the second.

25 posted on 06/29/2005 6:54:46 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
OH! And the Bushes are stupid and do not realize this.

You called them stupid. I didn’t.

I’m saying the Bushes are genuinely good people, and that they have nothing to gain from this friendship.

Go twist something else out of context, so you can become offended all over again.

26 posted on 06/29/2005 6:56:31 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
It's politics as usual for the elites.

Give the public and media a good show then everyone shows up for drinks and laughs.

27 posted on 06/29/2005 6:58:33 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I stand corrected. The Bushes are such nice people that they will, out of the kindness of their hearts, help people gain power who have a totally different idealogy. YEAH! And the voters in America voted for Clinton out of the kindness of their hearts, wanting nothing in return. You may not have used the word "stupid", but it sure sounded like stupid to me.


28 posted on 06/29/2005 7:04:18 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: billbears
darn it, running out of catchphrases for reasons to keep voting Republican....

The place we need to concentrate is within the Party. Stronger conservatives need to be chosen in the primaries, and the country club dinosaurs need to be weeded out.

The other area we need to attack is big city and county government; Republican party leaders are ceding these fights over to the Dem machines far to easily, and that is where the Dem vote stealing apparatus lies. If it wasn't for the Dem fraud machines in Seattle, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Philly, the 2004 election would have been a tidal wave.

Finally, we need to start grooming some new leadership. The Dems have Obama, Ford Jr. and such on their fast track; who is being pushed by the Party? If you want a conservative future, now is the time to bring up the public profile of the next generation, because the CC Republicans are pushing the Schwarzenegger/Giuliani/McCain types while deriding the Tancredo/McClintock types.

If you want the Party to stop drifting Left, start pushing it Right.

29 posted on 06/29/2005 7:04:39 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Useful idiot?


30 posted on 06/29/2005 7:05:28 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Useful idiot?


31 posted on 06/29/2005 7:05:29 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: LexBaird

Well said LEX


32 posted on 06/29/2005 7:07:00 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
The only reason that these jokers keep playing this two party bad act is because they know that if we ever figure out that there is only one party we may go out and form the second.

Exactly. But we also need to get those that complain for four years about who they voted for only to go in and vote for the same party to quit doing it. It's not changing a single thing. Just finally own up to the fact that the Republican party is just another facet of liberalism.

33 posted on 06/29/2005 7:08:43 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

You should have used that word to describe yourself. It fits.


34 posted on 06/29/2005 7:10:47 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
>>just don't mean the same thing to the elite as they might to you or me<<

A truer statement was never written. I continue to believe that even republicans will see that we have an elite class that runs the show. They support each others efforts, whether in politics, business, selling books, etc. You need to take a close look at people you support.

35 posted on 06/29/2005 7:11:13 AM PDT by devane617
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

It seems that the agenda from the executive branch has strikingly similar for the past 16 years........

Bigger and more intrusive government and continued massive growth in spending.

Birds of a feather...................


36 posted on 06/29/2005 7:12:33 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: billbears; David
darn it, running out of catchphrases for reasons to keep voting Republican....

Isn't that the definition of insanity?

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

Don't know about y'all, but I'm just about DONE with the (so-called) CONSERVATIVE party!

37 posted on 06/29/2005 7:13:24 AM PDT by MamaTexan (**Every year**.... more Americans die at the hands of illegals than were killed on 9/11)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

The Bushs are so magnanimous that they just want a friend, and the Clintons are evil users. Are you gullible or what? Put this situation into your life. Would you invite someone of his ilk into your vacation? They are not trying to save his soul. They are not helping out a down and out person, they are hob-nobbing with an equal. Either all the things said about the Clintons are untrue, or the Bushs can relate to those things. IOW there is very little difference between them on a personal level. Since I know Clinton is a low-life scum sucking pig, that makes anyone with Bush as a last name, suspect in my eyes.


38 posted on 06/29/2005 7:17:25 AM PDT by jeremiah (Patrick Henry said it best, give me liberty or give me death.)
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To: David
No. Testimony to the axiom "keep thine enemies close". They are both former presidents, and have southern roots.....we will never know them on a personal level, and can never know what those men had to endure while they were responsible for the fate of the free world.I think they might have a common bond that draws them together.
Third party is not the way to go......unless you want to see Bush '41 visiting Billy in Hillary's white house.
39 posted on 06/29/2005 7:17:44 AM PDT by photodawg
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To: MamaTexan

Don't worry. I haven't voted for a Republican candidate for awhile. I usually vote 3rd party or leave it blank


40 posted on 06/29/2005 7:19:05 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
Just curious as to how many people on this thread have friends or family members that they continue to spend time with who are liberals.

Personally, I have both family and friends that I spend time with who are liberals.

41 posted on 06/29/2005 7:28:50 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Lloyd227

Lloyd, Where is your sense of humor?


42 posted on 06/29/2005 7:31:27 AM PDT by verity (Big Dick Durbin is still a POS)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

You are good. Real good.


43 posted on 06/29/2005 7:34:11 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: devane617

The best thing for conservatives to do is to gain control of their party apparatus in the state they live. Get involved and keep sending solid conservatives up the pipeline. Never - ever - vote the party endorsed card at caucuses or conventions. Ask around and get connected to the malcontents (as long as they are conservative). Screw the 'moderates' that seek to build coalitions (i.e., dilute conservative goals and messages). Once the control of the party is in place, the national level will begin to feel the heat.


44 posted on 06/29/2005 7:38:45 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (NEW and IMPROVED: Now with 100% more Tyrannical Tendencies and Dictator Envy!)
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To: MEGoody

Well, I have a biological brother that is a bleeding heart liberal. I have not talked to him since 1988. I got married, had two kids. He had two kids, without getting married since that year. He has never seen my kids, I saw one of his, once. I guess I will see him at my mother's wake (God forbid she pass), if he shows up. The rest of my family is conservative to moderate. But, more importantly, most who call themselves conservatives had absolutely no idea of what a conservative is. Even on this sight there are many who think they are conservative, and can only pass as moderates.


45 posted on 06/29/2005 7:43:54 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
You know what burns MY butt???

A fire about 2-1/2 feet high.

< cymbal >

46 posted on 06/29/2005 7:48:30 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER....
47 posted on 06/29/2005 7:49:07 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: billbears
Don't worry. I haven't voted for a Republican candidate for awhile. I usually vote 3rd party or leave it blank

Have any won election? Do you vote in the primaries? What have you done to get someone you would consider worthy of your vote into a position to win an election?

48 posted on 06/29/2005 8:12:38 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
Well, I have a biological brother that is a bleeding heart liberal. I have not talked to him since 1988.

Have you not talked to him because of his liberalism, or was it something else?

49 posted on 06/29/2005 8:31:53 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

I have not talked to him because we have nothing of substance in common. We are friends with people that we choose to be friends with. If he were not my brother, I would have nothing to do with him. The fact that he is my brother should not erase all of that. I am one of five kids in the family. I have a solid relationship with three. His liberalism and my conservatism are certainly the underlying fundamentals that drive our thinking, which causes us to have less in common. I do not have any friends who are liberals. I am sure that there are many who consider themselves moderates. I live in Illinois. There are many here who voted for Bush and Obama. HUH? How can a guy who thinks that Bush is the best person for the job believe that Obama is the best person for the job. IGNORANCE RUNS RAMPANT IN THIS WORLD!


50 posted on 06/29/2005 10:22:15 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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