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GOP is criticized for campaign of Mafia metaphors
North Jersey Newspapers ^ | 06.29.05 | JOSH GOHLKE

Posted on 06/29/2005 10:32:25 PM PDT by Coleus

Republicans' liberal use of Mafia metaphors has angered some Italian-American activists who weighed in on the contentious campaign for the governor's office Tuesday.

Also on Tuesday, Republican gubernatorial candidate Doug Forrester enjoyed some unexpected praise from environmental leaders who are at odds with his Democratic opponent, U.S. Sen. Jon Corzine, over preservation of a Delaware River island.

The Italian-American activists gathered in Trenton to demand an apology from top Republicans, who have repeatedly compared Corzine and his allies to mobsters in an effort to underscore his links to the party's most controversial figures.

"To actually have a party organization that uses this as a playbook ... is disgraceful," said Robert Bianchi, president of the state chapter of the Italian-American Bar Association. "A lot of times, Italian-Americans have just accepted these insults as a punching bag, and I'm not going to do that."

Republicans have not said anything about Italian-Americans in general, but party Chairman Tom Wilson has on several occasions referred to "La Cosa Nostra," another name for the Italian Mafia, and called Corzine and other Democrats "capos," or mob chiefs. Bianchi said that perpetuates negative images of Italian-Americans to the exclusion of more laudable figures such as explorer Christopher Columbus and continental namesake Amerigo Vespucci.

Manny Alfano, who heads an organization called the Italian-American One Voice Coalition, wrote a letter to Wilson decrying the "cheap effort to taint the electoral process." Alfano was one of several critics who pushed Corzine to apologize for two jokes he reportedly made about Italian-Americans during the 2000 Senate campaign.

A call to Wilson on Tuesday was returned by two Italian-American Republicans, former acting Gov. Donald T. DiFrancesco and Assembly Minority Leader Alex DeCroce, who explained that Wilson meant no offense.

Earlier, several environmental leaders appeared with Forrester in Trenton to applaud the Republican's stance in favor of preserving a 300-acre island in the Delaware River near Camden. State and local officials have agreed on a plan to develop housing and a golf course on Petty's Island, but environmentalists say the state should accept owner Citgo Corp.'s offer to donate it as open space.

Corzine said in a statement Tuesday that it remains unclear whether the redevelopment plan is up to environmental and economic standards. However, he said the oil company's donation offer should be viewed "very skeptically" given pollution problems on the island, which is home to a pair of bald eagles.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alfano; backroom; baldeagles; bianchi; corzine; eagles; forrester; itanians; mafia; newjersey; nj; nj05; njgop; njpolitics; pettysisland; slang
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1 posted on 06/29/2005 10:32:25 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

so all mobsters are Italian?


2 posted on 06/29/2005 10:34:33 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Coleus
but party Chairman Tom Wilson has on several occasions referred to "La Cosa Nostra," another name for the Italian Mafia, and called Corzine and other Democrats "capos," or mob chiefs.

Well, when the shoe fits....

3 posted on 06/29/2005 10:34:58 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (The Democrats have the right mascot; everyone knows what comes out of an ass)
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To: Coleus
Tell these people to STFU and ask them if they ever criticized The Sopranos.
4 posted on 06/29/2005 10:36:29 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Echo Talon

Maybe they should start using the Swahili Mafia metaphors.


5 posted on 06/29/2005 10:37:48 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (The Democrats have the right mascot; everyone knows what comes out of an ass)
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To: Coleus

This is Democrap Gumba BS.. Give me a break, a few Hollywood words are no substitute for a real slap in the face, like being called a metrosexual.. Bada bing .. :)


6 posted on 06/29/2005 10:39:09 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Paul Atreides

well you have the Russian Mafia, Sicilian... ya know not really exclusive to Italy.


7 posted on 06/29/2005 10:40:49 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Echo Talon

I know. I was just being facetious to the content of the complaints, by the people in the article.


8 posted on 06/29/2005 10:41:41 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (The Democrats have the right mascot; everyone knows what comes out of an ass)
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To: Coleus

Cuomo is a "mean son of a bitch" who "acts like"a Mafioso."--Bill Clinton


9 posted on 06/29/2005 10:43:17 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Don't suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Didn't Bubba apologize to Mario, for those comments, while claiming that he didn't say them in the first place?


10 posted on 06/29/2005 10:44:25 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (The Democrats have the right mascot; everyone knows what comes out of an ass)
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To: Paul Atreides
oh, and don't forget about the Gay Mafia :D
11 posted on 06/29/2005 10:45:57 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Paul Atreides

LOL Exactly. I didn't say it, and I apologize for it.


12 posted on 06/29/2005 10:48:51 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Don't suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: Coleus
Tony Soprano and his family may be killers but they're still OUR family. Stop persecuting Italians in New Jersey! ;-)

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
13 posted on 06/29/2005 10:51:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Echo Talon
I am an American of Italian descent (Sicilian actually, which has even more of an oldschool mob flavor).

I always encouraged the gangster stereotype - after all, if I were to hand pick a set of traits to intrigue women and strike mild fear in the hearts of people who don't know me well, it would be the modern Italian gangster myth/stereotype.

I embrace it - I actually have a fairly notorious surname, and I would often get asked if I was 'connected.' After years of telling people the truth ("no"), I realized most of the folks didn't believe me anyway, so now I casually say "Yes, that's my family, but I'm not involved with that kind of stuff...these days."

;-)
14 posted on 06/29/2005 10:55:07 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

Your supposed to say, if I told ya I'd have to kill ya. :D


15 posted on 06/29/2005 10:58:09 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Clemenza

Bada-PING!


16 posted on 06/29/2005 10:58:15 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Echo Talon

;-)


17 posted on 06/29/2005 11:10:52 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

Is that you, Mr. Gotti ? ;-)


18 posted on 06/29/2005 11:11:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Nope, but close.


19 posted on 06/29/2005 11:12:13 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

Gambino ?


20 posted on 06/29/2005 11:13:50 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: HitmanNY

Lansky?


21 posted on 06/29/2005 11:14:27 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: HitmanNY
OR, if you really want to do it right... you will have to use a little but of your acting skills... When they ask, "ask are you connected?" You need to take a slightly deep breath hold it a little bit look a little stunned at the question, and take your eyes off him moving your head from side to side scanning the background as you say, "uh.. no...why?" all the while looking a little nervous and rocking side to side a little bit on your feet. then if its just someone you don't know that much or whatever say "uh.. i gotta go" still looking around and scanning the area. :D
22 posted on 06/29/2005 11:15:42 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: durasell

Meyer Lansky, yeah, now that's an Italian name if I ever heard one. :-D


23 posted on 06/29/2005 11:16:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: HitmanNY

Clinton?


24 posted on 06/29/2005 11:16:45 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Oscar Meyer Lanski (note the "i") had his name changed on Ellis Island.


25 posted on 06/29/2005 11:18:10 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Coleus
The Italian-American activists gathered in Trenton to demand an apology from top Republicans, who have repeatedly compared Corzine and his allies to mobsters in an effort to underscore his links to the party's most controversial figures.

It seems the dems aren't real happy with the truth being spoken in spite of the fact that they constantly accuse Pubbies of "Lying." Rather amusing actually.

26 posted on 06/29/2005 11:20:57 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Little known fact: The word "mafia" is actually derived from an Arabic word.


27 posted on 06/29/2005 11:22:11 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

His original name was Maier Suchowljansky, born a Polish Jew (though many in "the business" considered him "paisan").


28 posted on 06/29/2005 11:23:52 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Nope.


29 posted on 06/29/2005 11:24:17 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: durasell; fieldmarshaldj

It's an oldschool name with plenty of notoriety in the NYC are a well into the 1980s and 1990s - one of the region's crime families still bears the family surname.


30 posted on 06/29/2005 11:25:18 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Echo Talon

See, you know what I'm talking about! ;-)


31 posted on 06/29/2005 11:25:37 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Diddle E. Squat

;-)


32 posted on 06/29/2005 11:26:01 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: durasell
Little known fact: The word "mafia" is actually derived from an Arabic word.

Yep - Sicilian (the dialect/language most identified with the Italian Mob) is a mishmash of Italian, Greek, Maltese, and Arabic, and probably some other influences from the region.

33 posted on 06/29/2005 11:27:17 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

I knew some of those characters and know how they act. :D


34 posted on 06/29/2005 11:27:52 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: HitmanNY

That's the line that many believe. There's also a story about it being an acronym. Apparently someone traced it back to arabic that translates from "bold men." Something about being hired to fight off arab invaders.


35 posted on 06/29/2005 11:30:00 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Echo Talon
Good friends to have, I think, though its best if they 'owe you one,' rather than you 'owe them one,' capesh? ;-)
36 posted on 06/29/2005 11:30:26 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

Bonnano ? Genovese ? Lucchese ?


37 posted on 06/29/2005 11:31:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Talese?


38 posted on 06/29/2005 11:33:15 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

That's so Gay.


39 posted on 06/29/2005 11:34:11 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: durasell

I like the language of the oldschool Italian Mob - refering tko their enterprise as 'Cosa Nostra,' literally 'Our Thing,' as in 'the man has his thing, and we have our thing.' Kinda cool, if you ask me.

People also don't know much about the history of the mob in NY and in the states. What started in some respects as legitimate protection from gangs from other neighborhoods, crooks, etc, quickly (and naturally) evolved into 'protection from us!' From there, some 'victimless crimes' like booze and prostitution seemed natural, and it degenerated from there.

Still, mob life isn't nearly as violent as media suggests. while getting roughed up here and there happens, I recall reading that there is something like only 300-400 Italian mob-related hits in the USA in the 20th Century. While people on the outside like the concept of 'whacking' people, the truth is that it was relatively rare, mostly because it was just bad business.

Not that I would know much about this kind of stuff...


40 posted on 06/29/2005 11:34:39 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

lol, I was friends with this guy is HS and his family/extended family were strange. Leave it at that.


41 posted on 06/29/2005 11:36:36 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

One of the great Italian American writers. Too bad nobody reads him anymore...like Puzo, they only know him for the Godfather, which was only a so-so book -- but he also wrote one of the great immigrant books of the twentieth century -- Fortune Pilgram, which I'd put up there with any other immigrant book.


42 posted on 06/29/2005 11:36:41 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Echo Talon

That's a good kinda strange, if you ask me. Honestly, I never understood that exagerated outrage italian americans have. It's part of our cultural heritage, it's not an indictment of any italian in particular.

And it's sexy and dangerous - like I said, if I were to sit down and write myself a sterotype, it would look a lot like the Italian/Gangster one. ;-)


43 posted on 06/29/2005 11:38:36 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

Every immigrant group gets its turn at crime, just like they get their turn at sports and entertainment. And, I might add, contributing something along the lines of food to the American appetite.


44 posted on 06/29/2005 11:39:11 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

Exactamundo, as the Fonz (another great fictional Italian-American) would say! ;-)


45 posted on 06/29/2005 11:40:27 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

have you ever heard the "Jerky Boys"? I like the pranks they do with the character Frank Rizzo, they are hilarious! :D "This is Frank, FRank RIzzo! Open your ears wacky a*S!" :D cracks me up every time :D


46 posted on 06/29/2005 11:42:17 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: HitmanNY

...and then they move out to the 'burbs, the kids wear Polo and grow soft.


47 posted on 06/29/2005 11:42:27 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

Hey, I'm 1/4th Welsh. When is it gonna be OUR time ? ;-)


48 posted on 06/29/2005 11:43:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: Coleus

...yo...howze you doin'...?


49 posted on 06/29/2005 11:44:30 PM PDT by Checkers (Gitmo has killed fewer people than Michael Schiavo.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Welsh? Tough one. If you have any Irish in you, well, they already had their time.


50 posted on 06/29/2005 11:47:54 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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