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Caption: Redesign Puts Freedom Tower on a Fortified Base
New York Times ^
| June 30, 2005
| Mine, Mine
Posted on 06/30/2005 6:39:24 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY
Well, I like it....nice lines and the view from the observation deck would be awesome.
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posted on
06/30/2005 7:20:42 AM PDT
by
ScreamingFist
(Peace through Ignorance)
To: OESY
I'm more concerned by the "Cultural Center" and it's contents on the sacred ground where our innocent fellow citizens were murdered by the jihadist pigs than I am about the design of the new tower.
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posted on
06/30/2005 7:24:30 AM PDT
by
Hat-Trick
(Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
To: OESY
Haha, I love how its 1776 feet tall.
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posted on
06/30/2005 7:25:33 AM PDT
by
Right_at_RiceU
(You don't need a gun to kill hippies, just soap or work.)
To: OESY
Oh, I don't know... I'd go for this design if the new tower and the four adjacent buildings were painted as fingers to form an enormous 'Freedom Bird-Flip' aimed towards Mecca...
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posted on
06/30/2005 7:28:53 AM PDT
by
ncson
(General Quarters, General Quarters!! This is not a drill, This is not a drill!!)
To: OESY; Southack; Squantos; Travis McGee
Seems like they took a cue from
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posted on
06/30/2005 7:34:25 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
To: OESY
WHy is Libeskind still in the picture? That liberal weenie was responsible for that last horrific building with it's friendly air turbines, plants, whatever. Let him go design some museum in San Francisco or Paris and leave the capitalists alone.
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posted on
06/30/2005 7:43:11 AM PDT
by
AbeKrieger
(Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
To: OESY
did anyone notice how the article linked on Drudge references a Nazi achitect?
Appraisal: Fear in a soaring tower
By Nicolai Ouroussoff The New York Times
snip
But if this is a potentially fascinating work of architecture, it is, sadly, fascinating in the way that Albert Speer's architectural nightmares were fascinating - as expressions of the values of a particular time and era. The Freedom Tower embodies, in its way, a world shaped by fear.
end snip
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posted on
06/30/2005 8:01:05 AM PDT
by
greylurker
(Biloxi Pinger)
To: OESY
i still say we should rebuild BOTH towers, but... this is a VAST improvement over that fagot assed design back in 2003 with it's "Open Air Structure" as a perfect example of a complete WASTE of space and materials!!!
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posted on
06/30/2005 8:06:14 AM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: OESY
This building is totally unremarkable. It shows no imagination whatsoever. Look at the innovative structures being put up in Asia and the Emirates to see how Western architecture is truly dead. This faggot Liebskind is an amateur.
To: Senator Kunte Klinte
The International Freedom Center: Understanding P.C.
The plans for Ground Zero give prominent position to a cultural center dedicated to telling the story of man's march toward freedom as an inspirational complement to the all-important memorial to those who died. But this International Freedom Center now faces challenge as a wholly inappropriate use of hallowed ground.
An organization representing families of some 9/11 victims yesterday joined calls for the Freedom Center to be removed as the primary gateway to, and a highly visible presence on, the 4 acres where stood the twin towers. The center, it is feared, is slated to become a platform for propaganda and for debating contentious issues that have, at best, a tenuous connection to the worst attack ever on American soil.
Daily News (New York), 6/21/05
[Through the kind offices of a friend at the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, I have gained access to some draft discussion plans for the proposed International Freedom Center. The following are extracts from a fictional document titled Outline Design Specification, IFC Provisional (incomplete). I am glad to be able to share them with NRO readers. J.D. ]
Main Entrance Lobby
Lobby centerpiece: Large statue, a group of semi-abstract human figures, suggesting a striving upwards, perhaps all with arms uplifted. The figures to include some identifiable features such as: slave manacles (broken), Native American feathered headdress, Muslim turban, campesino hat, etc.
Wall inscription: Sth. inspirational from non-slave-owning Founder or similar Tom Paine?
Tape loop: Welcome to the International Freedom Center, here on the site where once stood the World Trade Center. Here you will find a celebration of freedom, as the word has been understood yet its spirit all too often violated or ignored in the modern world. The tragedy of 9/11 was a blow against the freedom that we Americans claim to cherish. Yet our own attitude to freedom has been full of contradictions, as these exhibits will demonstrate
Hall of Economic Freedom
(Originally proposed thus. AR suggests change to: Hall of Freedom from Want.)
Centerpiece: Full-size statue appropriate to theme labor hero? How about Joe Hill?
Big wall photo at left: Workers in 19C textile mill, pref. children. Continues to: Same size pics, coal mine, steel mill.
Big wall photo at right: Agricultural workers ragged etc., pref. 19C. Continues to: Sth. similarly nonindustrial whale fishing? (Check w. PETA for acceptability.)
Tape loop: The first of all freedoms is the freedom from want. Yet our nation, which prides itself on its devotion to freedom, has been sadly backward in establishing this most basic of all freedoms. For all the abundance of our society, even today children go to bed hungry in the United States. Even today, working Americans cannot afford health insurance. Even today, while nations such as Cuba have achieved one hundred per cent literacy and full, free access to health care
Hall of Sexual and Reproductive Freedom
Centerpiece: Statue group, woman in business suit, briefcase, etc., two gay men holding hands all striding confidently to radiant future. One of the 3 figures should be African American, doesnt matter which. Can we do Hispanic in statuary? Without campesino hat? If not, oriental.
Big wall photo at left: Sth. from 19C showing haggard-looking woman with large brood of children outside hovel. Continues to: Gay-rights martyrs von Katte, Wilde of course, Turing,
Big text block narrating Wilde case superimposed. Lesbian martyrs? Check w. CP.
Mural at right wall: Montage of great figures & episodes from history of sexual etc. freedom: Sade, Hirschfeld, Margaret Sanger, suffragettes, Kinsey, Roe vs. Wade justices (exc. White, Rehnquist), Stonewall demos etc. TBs suggestion to work abortion doctor in cant be done, wd. have to show instruments, best go with picture of clinic, pref. one in picturesque setting.
Tape loop: For centuries American women were second-class citizens, lacking the right to vote, barred from the professions, expected to produce a baby a year until their frail bodies were worn out
Hall of Ethnic Freedom
Centerpiece: Large statue group Manacled slaves, Trail of Tears, interned Japanese family, Chinese railroad coolie
May need to be half size, lotsa possible figures here.
Mural at left wall: Montage of images showing sufferings under racism: slavery, internment, lynching, Chicano farm workers, etc. Continues to: Protests Wounded Knee, march on Montgomery,
Mural at right wall: Heros portrayed Chavez, MLK, etc. [Who for Japanese? Mineta? And KD suggests Vincent Chin who he?]
Tape loop: Americas past treatment of non-white citizens is a 300-year catalog of shame
Hall of Artistic Freedom
Centerpiece: Completely abstract culture vaguely suggesting uplift, aspiration.
Big wall photo at left: McCarthy hearings, 1st Amendment ironically superimposed. Continues to: Montage of blacklisted screenwriters etc., w. notes on subsequent fate, esp. suicides. (Can we get Giuliani in here? the Brooklyn Museum business?)
Mural at right: Montage of controversial art Jackson Pollock, Piss Christ, etc. (Mapplethorpe prob. too strong AR.) Angels in America angel v. photogenic, says RT.
Tape loop: Still in disagreement here. RT wants pitch for PBS, JS insists reading of Vagina monologues. Shd. make decision soonest.
Hall of Religious Freedom
(NB1: Need great care here with religious symbols MUST BE ALL SAME SIZE EXACTLY else 1st Amendment issues.)
(NB2: Research on symbols not yet complete. Wiccans use pentacle inscribed in circle. For Hindus we shd. show one of less threatening gods, pref. many arms. Ch. of Scientology still not responding emails.)
Centerpiece: Good multi-culti statue group turban, yarmulke, robed monk, etc.
Mural at left wall: Montage of images religious buildings, worshippers, etc. Mosque prominent at center. Crowd scenes at Ganges festivals, Kaaba, etc. Big head shot Dalai Lama. Continues to: Images of religious persecution Salem burnings, Orange Riots, Holocaust. [Did RT have any luck finding images of Muslims beaten post-9/11? Wd. be real neat.]
Big photo at right: TBD.
Tape loop: Following the unfortunate events of September 11, 2001, Muslims in America suffered suspicion and discrimination
-- nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire200506300935.asp
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posted on
06/30/2005 8:57:36 AM PDT
by
OESY
To: Baynative
Isn't that Liebeskind with those fruity glasses? Someone punch him for being so pretentious.
Love him or hate him, Trunp is the only one with the right idea, rebuild the twin towers!!!
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posted on
06/30/2005 9:03:27 AM PDT
by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
To: OESY
I think it's creepy to build anything there. I certainly would not want to work in the new building. I would not have wanted to work in the Twin Towers either.
To: OESY
Much better than the original pile 'o cr@p.
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posted on
06/30/2005 9:13:55 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
To: Baynative
Oh c'mon now. Good gracious. You read MUCH too much into one single photo!
(Aw, but funny nevertheless!)
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posted on
06/30/2005 9:32:43 AM PDT
by
AmericanInTokyo
(**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
To: Baynative
"... The Gitmo detainees arrive in the entrance hall here, are carried along the corridor on a conveyor belt -- in extreme comfort, and past murals depicting Mediterranean scenes -- towards the rotating knives; the last twenty feet of the corridor are heavily soundproofed. The blood pours down these chutes and..."
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posted on
06/30/2005 9:42:02 AM PDT
by
Sloth
(History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: OESY
Question. Why are we wasting time and space on a *expletives deleted* cultural center? Just rebuild em. Rebuild em, and make em taller. Listen to Trump (Never though I;d say that...)
To: Antoninus
Yes, but not nearly as good as Trump's design.
PUT 'EM BACK LIKE THEY WERE, DAMMIT!!!
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posted on
06/30/2005 10:41:48 AM PDT
by
Pete'sWife
(Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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