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Italy Demands 'Full Respect' From U.S. Over Terror Suspect's Seizure
International Herald Tribune by way of NY Times ^ | 02JUL05 | ELISABETTA POVOLEDO

Posted on 07/01/2005 4:13:31 PM PDT by familyop

ROME, July 1 - Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi demanded to day that the United States show "full respect" for Italian sovereignty, after summoning the American ambassador to explain the reported abduction of a Muslim cleric by officers and operatives of the Central Intelligence Agency . . . There have been growing calls from the opposition, as well as some members of the governing majority, for clarification of the relationship between the United States and Italy.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; berlusconi; cia; gwot; italy; minister; parliament; prime; silvio
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1 posted on 07/01/2005 4:13:31 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

Someone who is registered at the NY Slimes, flip them off for me. Thanks.


2 posted on 07/01/2005 4:15:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: familyop

Get ready to boycott the Italians. Why don't they just STFU!

Besides, we're all on low carb anyways..so to hell with their pasta!


3 posted on 07/01/2005 4:15:18 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: familyop

Well Italy, if a terrorist is on your soil and you do nothing about it, just understand that we will. Is that respectful enough for you.


4 posted on 07/01/2005 4:16:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: familyop

Here is a good definition: "We will make no ditinction between terrorists, and those who harbor them"


5 posted on 07/01/2005 4:17:38 PM PDT by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: DoughtyOne

The question is: Did we ask Italy to do something about the terrorist before we kidnapped him? We are putting one of the few allies we have (Berlusconi) between a rock and a hard place. Imagine if Mexico sent a bunch of Federales to kidnap a wanted person from the US and take him to Mexico. We would rightfully have a problem with that as we are a sovereign country.


6 posted on 07/01/2005 4:18:13 PM PDT by winner3000 (part)
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To: DoughtyOne

"...clarification of the relationship between the United States and Italy."

LOL!


7 posted on 07/01/2005 4:18:24 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: DoughtyOne

user: timeslies163
pass: daily


8 posted on 07/01/2005 4:18:28 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: familyop
If you had arrested this known terrorist POS, and extradited him, then you wouldn't have to hear my response:

Yawn.

9 posted on 07/01/2005 4:18:54 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: MediaMole

LOL!


10 posted on 07/01/2005 4:19:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: winner3000
We are putting one of the few allies we have (Berlusconi) between a rock and a hard place.

No

An Italian judge is doing that.

We can settle this diplomatically or on the battlefield.

11 posted on 07/01/2005 4:20:52 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: DoughtyOne

I'm glad the Americans did this. I want the terrorists to know that they are not free from the wrath of the American people, anywhere.

But notice how the media is protraying this as a "kidnapping" of a "cleric" instead of a rendition of a dangerous terrorist.

Plus where's the evidence that the cleric was 'tortured' come from-the whining terrorist himself.

I'm sick of the media.


12 posted on 07/01/2005 4:21:04 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: winner3000

I don't know, but we don't harbor known terrorists.

They do.

I'm sure that we did this after years of delay.
And in all probability, telling the Italians our intentions would have simply meant that they would warn him, hide him, and protect him


13 posted on 07/01/2005 4:22:47 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: winner3000

As for the first part, that IS a reasonable question. And no, we don't want to put allies in the hot seat. Was Berlusconi on our side regarding the ransomed reporter? I doubt it.

As for Mexico, I think you'll have a hard time convincing me that a federale is comparable to our special forces.

Italy has a right to be pissed. We have a right to think ransoming people for millions just pays for more terrorist bombs.

I guess it's a push.


14 posted on 07/01/2005 4:22:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: winner3000

This is payback for that goofy reporter chick that managed to get an Italian Secret Service agent killed. Nothing more.


15 posted on 07/01/2005 4:22:50 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Yes, we'll dance, if we get to lead. Smirk!


16 posted on 07/01/2005 4:23:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: familyop

This is somewhat worrisome. This is the first I've heard that Berlusconi was out of the loop on our actions, whatever they were. As long as it was just some leftie judge complaining, I was not concerned. But Silvio has been pretty solid since 9/11. I don't take his possible alienation lightly. Of course, I'll need to hear about it from somewhere other than the Slimes before I really pay attention.


17 posted on 07/01/2005 4:24:33 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: familyop

The Italian government can say what it wants, but I don't believe the CIA did this without their knowledge.


18 posted on 07/01/2005 4:24:35 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Someone who is registered at the NY Slimes, flip them off for me. Thanks."

...wrong, and the piece came from a publication of Italy's blood sister. You-a flippa-me-off-a? I donutta care. Here's anudda one.

Berlusconi protests over CIA ‘kidnap'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1434969/posts
19 posted on 07/01/2005 4:25:29 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: familyop
Ahem.

"Full Respect"?

Maybe for the Romans.

For a nation full of over-cooked pasta bellies?

Italy should be happy that we still talk with them.

20 posted on 07/01/2005 4:26:05 PM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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