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New tax for broadband customers?
CNET News.com ^ | Fri Jul 01 2005 | Anne Broache

Posted on 07/02/2005 1:25:00 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Many broadband customers will pay new universal service taxes akin to those on their telephone bills if Congress bows to suggestions from rural legislators...

The USF currently collects a fixed percentage of revenues from long-distance, wireless, pay phone and telephone companies so that it can pass on subsidies to low-income customers, high-cost areas, and rural health care providers, schools and libraries. Most companies come up with their share, set for this quarter at 10.2 percent, by charging their customers a fee.

The USF should continue to be "industry funded," but the base of contributors should be expanded to "all providers of two-way communications, regardless of technology used, to ensure competitive neutrality," a bipartisan coalition of rural legislators said in a June 28 letter to the U.S. House of Representatives Energy and Commerce Committee, which will be drafting the rewrites. That means companies providing broadband services such as VoIP over telephone wires would also have to pay into the fund...

"If our residents are to be competitive in today's fast-paced, technology-driven global marketplace, our communities will require affordable high-speed, high-capacity access to data and information over the Internet," Rep. John Peterson, R-Penn., co-chairman of the Congressional Rural Caucus, said... "If the private sector is either unwilling or unable to provide that service at an affordable price, we'll find a way to provide it for ourselves."

The wireless industry applauded the proposed change "since wireless consumers are significant and disproportionate payers into the universal service and intercarrier compensation systems," Steve Largent, CEO of CTIA - The Wireless Association, said in a statement...

The Universal Service Fund in recent years has faced allegations of waste, fraud and abuse. The FCC announced in June a formal inquiry into its management.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: broadband; energyandcommerce; fcc; fees; johnpeterson; longdistance; newtaxes; payphone; stevelargent; subsidies; tax; telcomact1996; telephone; universalservice; usf; voip; wireless
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To: newzjunkey
Isn't this Universal Service tax the 'Al Gore' tax. The tax voted on by 2/3 of Clinton and Gore? By fiat.
A tax that was to increase to approx. 8% of your long distance phone bill.
Wasn't this tax supposed to connect all the poor school districts to the internet?
Now it's high speed service for residents.
21 posted on 07/02/2005 3:07:57 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

One of these days people are going to wake up to the fact that there is no advantage to working your ass off to become part of the middle class and pay taxes.
Sit back and let the government take care of everything.

Then what.
( darn it's only 6:15 AM, I should be really pi$$ed by 8)


22 posted on 07/02/2005 3:17:00 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie
"Then what."

Then you are French.

23 posted on 07/02/2005 3:26:46 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Kozak

They'll go after satellite broadband as well. Satellite TV is not taxed in many states, but the cable companies have been lobbying Congress to have satellite TV taxed. Some states have bowed to pressure and have begun taxing satellite TV, all because cable feels threatened by competition. That's the only reason why cable companies have been going this route.


24 posted on 07/02/2005 3:27:09 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: newzjunkey

The power to tax is the power to destroy.


25 posted on 07/02/2005 3:28:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: Vinnie

Under the 1996 Act, all Americans are to have access to the benefits of the information superhighway - schools, libraries, hospitals and clinics. I also found that it may be other principles that, consistent with the 1996 Act, are necessary to protect the "public interest" are to be decided by the FCC.


26 posted on 07/02/2005 3:29:45 AM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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To: Vinnie
Wasn't this tax supposed to connect all the poor school districts to the internet?

You're confusing the USF with E-Rate, which was the subsidy used to wire disadvantaged areas to the internet, largely in rural areas by small local phone companies. By "wiring disadvantaged areas to the internet", that included wiring schools and community colleges to the internet and providing an "on ramp" for home users, whether they were accessing by dialup or xDSL. It's all smoke and mirrors. Not everyone could get broadband, and many were limited to one provider (usually the locally owned phone company) like myself.

27 posted on 07/02/2005 3:33:29 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: endthematrix
Under the 1996 Act, all Americans are to have access to the benefits of the information superhighway - schools, libraries, hospitals and clinics.

It's a lie. So-called "natioanl providers" have largely concentrated on urban areas, where they can reap the most. If Wildblue is anything like Starband, I'll be pretty irate, and end up eating the $299 install fee. So far, I haven't seen any demonstration site for Wildblue around these parts. Having been to a Starband demonstration, I wasn't at all impressed. My 56k dialup was much faster.

28 posted on 07/02/2005 3:38:33 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; Vinnie
Nope. The E-rate is one part (schools and libraries) of USF.
29 posted on 07/02/2005 3:41:23 AM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Bandwidth is quickly eatened when a provider sets up shop.
30 posted on 07/02/2005 3:42:57 AM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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To: varyouga

I don't see why its a good idea for urban Americans subsidize those in rural areas. Things like cheap broadband and communication bandwith in general, is an added reason for people to move to the cities. By forcing urbanites to subsidize rural people, we are causing a missallocation of resources.

Of course the broadband tax may only be a few dollars a month, so it by itself doesn't mean much. But I've seen this type of thinking in quite a few areas, and it does start to add up. Anotehr example is electricity where it is much cheaper to bring electricity to metropolitan Americans, but they end up paying the same flat rate as rural Americans anyway.


31 posted on 07/02/2005 3:44:34 AM PDT by ran15
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To: Vinnie

If everything is equalized anyway, there is no reason to even try to make things cost effective.


32 posted on 07/02/2005 3:48:55 AM PDT by ran15
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To: Truth29
Then you are French.

Not possible, I insist on bathing once a week whether I need it or not.

33 posted on 07/02/2005 3:50:13 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: endthematrix

Absolutely. The first handful of customers already on Wildblue will be disappointed when the 4mb/sec pipe is scaled back and more customers sign on.


34 posted on 07/02/2005 3:51:12 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Exactly they chose to live in a rural area. One of the disadvantages of a rural area, is services are a lot more expensive to deliver. But there are advantages.

Maybe the rural person wouldn't mind financing urban Americans travel expenses to nice scenic parks and wilderness fun?


35 posted on 07/02/2005 3:51:50 AM PDT by ran15
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To: Kozak

Not really. Satellite Internet delays don't work too well for internet phone or vpn.


36 posted on 07/02/2005 3:54:24 AM PDT by I_dmc
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To: ran15

It's cheaper in a large city because the provider doesn't have to trench a single wire dozens of miles to one single person's home. Fiber is ridiculously expensive, which is why you don't see a huge movement to start laying down fiber to every home or business in this country. They could do it, but the providers would still end up passing the "savings" onto the customer.


37 posted on 07/02/2005 3:55:37 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Yep same with electricity. A lot cheaper to hook up a huge apartment building with a ton of residents, then digging trenches between a bunch of homes. Or putting power lines up, then maintaining them.

There is also economies of scale going on. Where you can have maintenance crews and server technicians with a constant workflow, and little travel time. And specialized equipment in addition.

If it wasn't for our major cities being liberal meccas, stopping growth and doing crazed socialist engineering, I think many more people would move towards the major centers, as the cost of living would be so much cheaper.

The Chinese with their super dense cities are throwing in broadband like crazy right now.


38 posted on 07/02/2005 4:13:53 AM PDT by ran15
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To: Vinnie

One of these days people are going to wake up to the fact that there is no advantage to working your ass off to become part of the middle class and pay taxes.
Sit back and let the government take care of everything.

Then what.


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Then you go back to taxing the richest 1% uh, I mean 2%.


39 posted on 07/02/2005 4:20:35 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Democrats, Socialists........................ Is there really a difference?)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

One day you won't even be able to make it to the middle class by working your ass off.


40 posted on 07/02/2005 4:22:46 AM PDT by Wolfie
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