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New amendment would protect attacks on religion by ‘intolerant people’
Catholic News Agency ^ | July 1, 2005

Posted on 07/02/2005 5:57:22 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/02/2005 5:57:23 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 07/02/2005 5:58:25 AM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

Don't we already have an Amendment for this? "Congress shall make no law ... prohibiting the free exercise ..."

I hesitate to criticise dear Rep. Istook and his supporters, but what's the use of another Amendment, when SCOTUS will simply rule that it doesn't mean what it says? Like, how much more clear could "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged," be?


3 posted on 07/02/2005 6:01:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: NYer
This is the wrong approach. We need a constitutional amendment to abolish judicial review. That will correct our entire misguided judicial philosophy of making law from the bench, not just dealing with one case. And it has the added attraction of fixing the real problem once and for all.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
4 posted on 07/02/2005 6:05:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NYer

The empty suits in the Senate will shoot it down when it gets to them.


5 posted on 07/02/2005 6:06:43 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: NYer

I don't know preceisely what this is getting at. Is this a proposal to end first amendment rights of people to criticize a religion? I don't agree with that. One should be free to criticize any religion in public as a private person. Just look at the law in Australia punishing a Christian pastor for criticizing Islam, and the proposed law in UK that would punish the same thing.


6 posted on 07/02/2005 6:07:18 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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The amendment reads: "To secure the people's right to acknowledge God according to the dictates of conscience: The people retain the right to pray and to recognize their religious beliefs, heritage and traditions on public property, including schools. The United States and the States shall not establish any official religion nor require any person to join in prayer or religious activity."

A fitting Amendment that shouldnt be necessary, but sadly is, due to the Supreme Court re-writing of the constitution.


7 posted on 07/02/2005 6:08:07 AM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Tax-chick

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged,"

I expect this to be re-interpreted to mean the right to wear tank tops!


8 posted on 07/02/2005 6:09:11 AM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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Oh, you mean like liberals who constantly attack Conservative Christians day in and day out? You mean like liberals who hate organized religion and anybody that dares make it part of their life?


9 posted on 07/02/2005 6:09:17 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: Unam Sanctam

"Is this a proposal to end first amendment rights of people to criticize a religion?"

Read the text of the amendment and ignore the misleading headline... it does nothing of the kind. It simply preserves (returns) the right to engage in voluntary, noncoercive religious expression in public places.


10 posted on 07/02/2005 6:11:12 AM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Is this a proposal to end first amendment rights of people to criticize a religion?

You can take it to the bank that should this amendment pass the first group of people to embrace it will be the moslems.

Doesn't our Republican controlled congress have something better to do with their time? First we are visited yet again by another flag burning amendment and now this. Meanwhile our borders are a free-for-all zone and the USSC just ruled that private property really belongs to the State. They need to quit wasting time with these pointless "feel good" amendments and actually do something about the issues that truly and adversely affect people!

11 posted on 07/02/2005 6:13:49 AM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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:-).


12 posted on 07/02/2005 6:15:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Italian author is being jailed for criticizing islam in Italy because its against the law to disparage a religion. This is not the way to go. What's being proposed in the name of Christianity will be trumped by muslims. We will have verses from the koran displayed right next to the ten commandments.
13 posted on 07/02/2005 6:28:39 AM PDT by photodawg
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To: Tax-chick
The catch phrase there is "Congress shall make..." The Founders didn't provide for "Supreme Court shall make no laws..."
Hopefully, Bush will nominate a SC Justice who follows the Constitution. I have my pen and stationary all set to encourage my CINO Senators, Mikulski and Sarbanes, to support the Nominee and the Constitution they swore to uphold.
But then, what did Mother Teresa say about a Nation that will kill it's babies?
14 posted on 07/02/2005 6:47:29 AM PDT by pieces of time
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To: WOSG

If that wasn't a possiblity it would be very funny.


15 posted on 07/02/2005 6:49:18 AM PDT by pieces of time
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The people retain the right to pray and to recognize their religious beliefs, heritage and traditions on public property, including schools. The United States and the States shall not establish any official religion nor require any person to join in prayer or religious activity.

Isn't that just a rewrite of what the first amendment already says, just wordier?

16 posted on 07/02/2005 6:52:55 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: NYer

I appreciate the sentiment but a "loser pays" law would be more effective and you wouldn't need a Constitutional Amendment.


17 posted on 07/02/2005 6:55:35 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Unam Sanctam; WOSG

It does seem that such an amendment shouldn't be necessary, but it may be. The act of at least trying to pass such an amendment may call attention to the fact that it appears that Christianity, the Ten Commandments, or anything that relates to the Judeo-Christian God are the only things that seems to be unprotected from political correctness, "hate-speech", etc. If other religious are attacked or questioned, whoever made the statement is viewed as "intolerant".

And look at all the trash Hollywood and "artists" have generated that has been anti-God. Maybe such an amendment, or the attempt to pass such legislation, will stop at least some of that bile.


18 posted on 07/02/2005 6:58:26 AM PDT by Joann37
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Do you think that this would make muslimes stop wanting
to kill christians and jews?


19 posted on 07/02/2005 7:04:21 AM PDT by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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To: pieces of time

Excellent points.


20 posted on 07/02/2005 7:07:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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