Posted on 07/02/2005 11:17:15 AM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan
In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seekign a better way of life.
(Excerpt) Read more at arkansasnews.com ...
The article states that Gov. Huckabee supported House Bill 1525 by Rep. Joyce Elliot, D-Little Rock. The bill would have opened the door in Arkansas for illegal aliens to receive college scholarships.
Ugh, I had thought highly of Huckabee before this.
Gov. Huckabee opposed the Republican bill that supported the rule of law and supported the Democratic bill that supports illegal aliens.
Hucksterby isn't a RINO - us folks who disagree with him are.
Anti-soverignty and pro-open-borders are now mainstream in the GOP.
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.
Gov. Huckabee will likely seek the 2008 Repbulican presidential nomination. He chose, however, to criticize Arkansas senate Repbulicans in his own state who are simply trying to enforce the rule of law with regard to illegal aliens. He also chose to support an Arkansas Democratic representative that seeks to assist illegal aliens.
I heard that "The Huckster" was pro-OB on a FR thread several months ago
A self-proclaimed religious background is only that - self-proclaimed - many of America's immigration and illegal alien problems are because a Christian church in New Cannan, CT has broken federal and state and local laws by actually becoming coyotes and weasels in unlawfully bringing illeal aliens and their families into the USA, financing and supporting them, feeding them, helping illeal aliens unlawfully get US Social Security cards, CT Driver's Licenses, fake USA Birth Certificates, jobs, housing, and even giving them "sanctuary" housing within their church and church members's homes.
Now you see the Mayor of drug-gang ridden Danbury, CT asking the feds and the CT State Police and the CT Governor - to track, arrest, anfd deport illegal aliens who have destroyed Danbury, Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, and many other CT cities.
The CT State Police reply :
"Not my job man!!!!!!!"
Once upon a time I was one of the initial plaintiffs against the CT State Police and State of CT that became a massive class action civil lawsuit.
The Chief of the CT State Police resigned under media spotlights and my depositions of him and his crooked Gestapo - Governor Ella Grasso (up for re-election) said:
"This will end up on my desk"
Ella Grasso "decided" to "spend more time with my faimily...." and dropped out of the CT Governor's race -
CT's high-dollar hired legal firm advised the state to "settle" -
CT paid out over 17 million dollars and numerous cases were reversed or dropped
I killed the Queen of Connecticut
Do not ever PMO
Personally, when Slick Willie was cited by the DOJ for targeting Texas plates in Arkansas by the Arkansas State Police as those of drug dealers and illegal aliens - and the AK Governor Bill Clinton said he would do it again - I look beyond all of Slick Willie's other actions and agree with him fully on this - the DOJ under Ronald Reagan and George HW Bush was out of control on immigration, drugs, and borders - playing hand in balls with the ACLU and Mexico and AZTLAN.
We need to cherry-pick our allies as the need arises -
I do not hate Bill Clinton - I despise his actions and what he did/does - but I am pragmatic when it comes to the real world
Isn't it at least as unAmerican, unChrisitian, and selfish to keep them out of his publicly financed housing? Surely he has extra government owned beds that go begging nearly every night.
Let's see him set the example.
ITMT, keep the ILLEGALS on their own side of the border.
Any Republican who is really serious about running for President knows that the only way he can win is with a significant percentage of the Hispanic vote.
Republicans who make gratuitous insults to Hispanic voters are not serious candidates, they are merely vanity candidates trying to scam money out of people by creating anti-Hispanic hatred, fear and hysteria.
When Republicans go to vote in the primaries they will vote for someone who can defeat Hillary, not someone who has already thrown away his chances of winning by alienating one out of seven Americans.
btt
Illegal aliens should voluntarily leave this country or be deported. Gov. Huckabee viciously attacked two (2) courageous Republican state senators who believe in the rule of law, yet supports a Democrat who is seeking to make illegal aliens eligible to receive college scholarships.
I support the two brave Republican state senators. Hillary Clinton supports giving legal status to illegal aliens. Maybe Gov. Huckabee should be Hillary's running mate.
So, you admit that ILLEGAL ALIENS are voting in our elections.
Gov. Huckabee seems more concerned about the well-being of illegal aliens in Arkansas than about the well-being of American citizens in Arkansas.
How did you arrive at that conclusion. I referred to Hispanic voters, not illegal aliens.
It looks as if Huckabee, like so many other American politicians, has sold his soul to the Devil in order to maintain his political power.
This is an historical truth that cannot be denied. And today it is being reaffirmed by the fact that the immigrant friendly states and cities are the ones prospering while the immigrant-hostile states continue to lose jobs and populations.
I completely agree with you.
Hispanic-Americans are not the Devil. They are American citizens entitled to the same representation as Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, Polish-Americans, German-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Jewish-Americans Michigan-Americans, and any other group of citizens.
There are only winners and losers in electoral politics, which do you want to be?
Dear Mike, just a little hint: open borders is not a winning platform in Republican Presidential primaries. In fact,you just blew whatever chance you thought there was that another Arkansawyer might make it to the White House.
Republicans who make gratuitous insults to Hispanic voters are not serious candidates, they are merely vanity candidates trying to scam money out of people by creating anti-Hispanic hatred, fear and hysteria.
When Republicans go to vote in the primaries they will vote for someone who can defeat Hillary, not someone who has already thrown away his chances of winning by alienating one out of seven Americans.
Speaking out against illegal immigration is the best way for a Republican candidates to receive the Hispanic vote. 47% of Hispanic voters voted in favor of the anti-illegal immigration measure Prop 200 in Arizona. By continuing to speak out against illegal immigration, Republicans should be able to increase the number of Hispanics who vote for Republican candidates. It looks as though your "the sky is falling" hysteria regarding Hispanic voters is unfounded.
Keep up the fight.
To actually understand the issues involved in formulating an American Immigration policy, see Immigration.
It's a historical truth as related to legal immigration, not illegal immigration.
And today it is being reaffirmed by the fact that the immigrant friendly states and cities are the ones prospering while the immigrant-hostile states continue to lose jobs and populations.
Can you name one immigrant-hostile state because I can't think of a single state that is hostile to legal immigrants.
I didn't say, nor did I imply, that Hispanic-Americans are the Devil. I don't understand how you could have misinterpreted my comments to mean that.
I was born at night, not last night.
That's more information than I asked for or need.
All I wanted you to tell us is where you got the idea that I was saying that illegals were voting in our elections?
I neither said that at night nor in the daytime.
There is a vast difference between speaking out against illegal immigration and insulting American Hispanic voters.
Even a dog knows the difference between being kicked and accidentally stepped upon.
When people oppose illegal immigrants because they dilute our culture, lower our educational standards, have filthy habits, breed too fast, don't speak English, threaten our heritage and ruin our neighborhoods they are insulting all Hispanic Americans.
No one is fooled by insertion of the word "illegal" in the middle of hate speech.
Then who were you referring to when you said he has sold out to the Devil?
" This is an historical truth that cannot be denied. And today it is being reaffirmed by the fact that the immigrant friendly states and cities are the ones prospering while the immigrant-hostile states continue to lose jobs and populations."
California is prospering?
What planet are you on?
Prospering?
Tell that to the people in southern AZ where hospital emergency rooms are shutting down.
" Hispanic-Americans are not the Devil. "
Strawman.
No one on this thread used those words except you.
"When people oppose illegal immigrants because they dilute our culture, lower our educational standards, have filthy habits, breed too fast, don't speak English, threaten our heritage and ruin our neighborhoods they are insulting all Hispanic American"
Another strawman.
Mind pointing to a post in this thread where someone has said such a thing?
I've been actively involved in a number of Presidential primaries (and gubernatorial). There is always one monster issue that dominates every primary; and that is who has the best chance of winning the general election.
When the polls show the anti-Hispanic candidate losing to Hillary by 20 points, and Huckabee (or other serious candidate) defeating Hillary, the primary voters will vote for the winner, not the loser.
Did I limit my reference to this thread?
Yes both California and Arizona are doing very well. Where have you been? Don't you ever take time to get your facts straight before posting comments that everyone recognizes are foolish?
See post #15. Once again you have posted without checking your facts. Please start putting a little more time and effort into the contents before you post to me.
"See post #15. Once again you have posted without checking your facts. Please start putting a little more time and effort into the contents before you post to me."
I did, and you're caught.
"Hispanic-Americans are not the Devil. "
He never said Hispanic-Americans were the devil, he said that Huckabee sold his soul to the devil. It's a rhetorical flourish, not a racist accusation.
As usual, you take others words out of context, erect a strawman, and let the accusations fly.
"Yes both California and Arizona are doing very well. Where have you been? Don't you ever take time to get your facts straight before posting comments that everyone recognizes are foolish?"
I live in Arizona, but spent the last 5 weeks in San Diego.
How about you?
California state and cities have a busted budget.
Businesses are fleeing California.
Southern Arizona is seeing hospital emergency rooms close.
They had to raise my property taxes in Phoenix to support the County Medical Center because it's ground zero for medical treatment of illegal aliens with any medical ailment what so ever - at taxpayer expense.
I'm tempted to say that Huckabee needs to get out of politics and return to preaching, but I think he just needs to shut up.
Please take the time to look up the economic facts on California and Arizona before you waste me time with more inane posts.
"Do you even know what economic indicators are? Your property taxes and legislative wrangling over how to spend increased tax revenue are not economic indicators."
Increased tax revenue yes - because they RAISED THE TAX RATE for the purpose of paying for the county medical center.
Not just increased revenue - increased tax RATE.
Some of us vote our principles, rather than the polls.
Then, others have no principles, and just wander from election to election voting the polls, then wonder why "their side" is ignoring them.
This guy Huckabee wants to be President ?
HaHaHaHaHaHa !
I wonder what the other "Southern White Guys", Southern black guys, and other US-CITIZENS think about equal sharing with Illegal Aliens.
Adam, bayourod is a true political insider. Here's something form his "About" section:
"I've stated my agenda several times. I am a very conservative, loyal Republican and Bush supporter who believes that a small but vocal assortment of individuals and groups with divergent motives and agendas has independently converged to exploit the legitimate issue of immigration reform for their own purposes; and that the avalanche of emotional hysteria created by them is threatening the relationship between Republicans and Hispanic voters; and that unless stopped right now, could keep the Republicans out of the White House for many decades." . . .
"Labor unions are an another obvious group that has always fought immigrant labor and now sees an opportunity to co-opt the anti-illegals movement."
Bayourod was apparently unaware that the AFL-CIO has been supporting amnesty for illegal aliens since February 2000. Here is a link to a February 16, 2000, press release by the AFL-CIO supporting amnesty for illegal aliens:
http://www.aflcio.org/mediacenter/prsptm/pr02162000d.cfm .
The AFL-CIO supports giving legal status to illegal aliens just like bayourod does.
"Adam, bayourod is a true political insider. Here's something form his "About" section: "
That must be this weeks euphemism for "troll."
:)
It has been my understanding for some time that Huckabee has been moving to the left. I wonder if he is endorsing Lt. Governor Rockefeller as his successor. Rockefeller is a first cousin of popular Democrat Senator Rockefeller of WV.
How about "coyote"?
BUMP
Sources. Not opinion, roddy, sources. Put up, or shut up.
ping for later
I prefer it when border traitors openly announce themselves.
Unfortunately they have been setting policy for far too long, and won't stop until they all get kicked out office by angry voters.
Electoral politics is about winning and governing. If you aren't interested in winning why do even care about it? In politics you're either a winner or a loser. There's no blue ribbon for "loser with loudest principles."
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