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Run Fast, Run Naked - An alternative approach to internet security
GoGov ^ | July 2, 2005 | GoGov

Posted on 07/02/2005 11:27:16 AM PDT by BJungNan

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1 posted on 07/02/2005 11:27:16 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
You simply format your hard drive once on month..

Better yet - reimage.

2 posted on 07/02/2005 11:30:27 AM PDT by TomServo ("Meanwhile, at Jackie Chan Technical College...")
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To: TomServo

Why is re-imaging better?

And won't this whole deal work only with dynamic IP assignment? (Sorry if dumb questions...not a computer professional here...)


3 posted on 07/02/2005 11:33:07 AM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: BJungNan

interesting...

my computer is online all the time, yet I don't have these problems......

then again, I try to hack at the pop ups and attempt to block them or change their IP addresses too :)


4 posted on 07/02/2005 11:36:17 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Got the Zot?)
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To: Gondring

reimaging allows you to not lose your information (documents, things you want to save, etc.), whereas reformating wipes EVERYTHING off of the hard drive and start with a clean slate...


5 posted on 07/02/2005 11:37:09 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Got the Zot?)
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Not a good idea. If you run naked you will soon be swamped with pop ups and data miners and trojans whether you have anyhting of value or not. All that crap is enough to slow you to a crawl. Besides, I enjoy cleaning house and shoveling all the crap out periodically.


6 posted on 07/02/2005 11:37:23 AM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: BJungNan

An interesting idea.


7 posted on 07/02/2005 11:38:52 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Gondring; TomServo
Re: Reimaging - I think the idea is that you get everything set up - your browser, email, etc. then image the drive. Then you can just restore the image with less work if you do indeeed format monthly.
I think. ;-)
8 posted on 07/02/2005 11:39:11 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (In honor of our bravest in armed service to our nation.)
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To: Gondring

You don't have to re-format/re-install anything. The image contains a copy of software/your preferred settings, etc. IOW - a computer setup just the way you want it - instead of going thru all the trouble of reformatting/reinstalling.
Of course - you'll have to reformat/install/setup the machine initially to create the image. But after that, it only takes 15-30 minutes to reimage and bang - it's setup just the way you like it. As far as my personal documents, etc - those reside on my server, which I back up to DVD once a week...


9 posted on 07/02/2005 11:39:12 AM PDT by TomServo ("Meanwhile, at Jackie Chan Technical College...")
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To: MikeinIraq
reimaging allows you to not lose your information (documents, things you want to save, etc.), whereas reformating wipes EVERYTHING off of the hard drive and start with a clean slate...

But that's the point, isn't it? If you just re-image, you're not cleaning up all the tracks created while running naked, and directory structures, file locations and CLSIDs and all will not be changed, perhaps?

10 posted on 07/02/2005 11:41:38 AM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: TomServo
I would think you would still want a pop-up stopper on the junk computer, just to stem the flow of those annoying opo-up ads.

I am not a big fan of more legislation to cure whatever ails our society, but I would favor the death penalty for pop-up ad makers and spyware purveyors, and I would hold ISP's financially liable after the first report of a spammer on its system.

I suppose I am naive about all this, and that the out of the country spammers could never be held accountable.

11 posted on 07/02/2005 11:42:08 AM PDT by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: BJungNan
Run Fast, Run Naked
12 posted on 07/02/2005 11:42:40 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: BJungNan

I have two computers, one for the 'net and the other for my development and other stuff. They are NOT networked, but they each have a ZIP disk drive, so if I download something I want to keep, I transfer it that way, or by burning a CD if it's really big file.

But the truth is, I haven't had any problem with spyware whatsoever since I installed Mozilla Firefox. Even so, I still use ZoneAlarm, Symantec Systemworks, and Ad-Aware.


13 posted on 07/02/2005 11:43:05 AM PDT by Marauder (Politicians use words the way a squid uses ink.)
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To: BJungNan
Even more simply, just run from a livecd such as Knoppix or Puppy on the throwaway machine.
14 posted on 07/02/2005 11:43:11 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Gondring

no necessarily, but it does remove any installed programs, i.e. spyware and all of that stuff....

if your virus definitions and security software is better than it was, it stands a better chance of blocking such intrusions...

but I wouldnt run around "naked" on the internet. That is what the hackers are waiting for....


15 posted on 07/02/2005 11:43:34 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Got the Zot?)
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To: expatpat

I guess no one has heard of MSNTV2. It's a very simple, user friendly, internet reciever similar to webtv. I'm using it to post this message. www.msntv2.com


16 posted on 07/02/2005 11:47:34 AM PDT by robby (xbox gamertag...........bainrowe)
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To: Gondring

Re-imaging in this case means restarting from square one. You do a clean install, put on all the programs that you want, and (before ever connecting to the internet) saving an image.

Then you browse around for a while, attracting all sort of bugs and such. But every so often you copy your previously-saved image of your clean start back onto your machine, in effect wiping everything that's been done since.

That being said, I have free anti-virus, free anti-spyware, and free anti-popup installed. They're all set to update and scan automatically. I almost never see a popup (about 1 or 2 month gets through--really), haven't had a virus for over a year (and the one that I had a year ago was caught and cleared automatically--caused no damage) and spyware is cleared daily if it gets through.

I have DSL and my computer is connected 24/7/365 and has been online for close to three years straight. $0.00 down, $0.00 per month.


17 posted on 07/02/2005 11:51:05 AM PDT by murdocj (Murdoc Online - Everyone is entitled to my opinion (http://www.murdoconline.net))
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To: BJungNan

Or, just get a Macintosh and use OS X with Firefox.

Problem solved.


18 posted on 07/02/2005 11:52:08 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: BJungNan

In theory a good idea. In practice, totally unworkable. What about downloading, online gaming, e-mail, etc. and trying to maintain preferences, cookies, etc. Who except a masochist would want to perpetually be in a state of reformatting, restoring, reinstalling, reconfiguring, reupdating, etc.? Unless this guy browes in a completely generic, image-free, courier text-based, non-interactive, vanilla environment, I don't see how this could work.


19 posted on 07/02/2005 11:53:12 AM PDT by omniscient
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To: snowsislander
Yup.
20 posted on 07/02/2005 11:57:10 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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