Karl Rove nails the anti-victory neurosis of the Left

The Star [South Chicago] ^ | 7/3/5 | Michael Bowers

[dixiechick2000]

Great read!

New tagline bump!

[Chi-townChief]

CHICAGOLAND PING

[Milligan]

Questions...

#1) Did Osama received aid from the CIA when the Soviet's invaded Afghanistan back in 1979. Some say he did but others said he provided his own money to fight the Soviets.


#2) Was Osama an important Majahdeen leader or was he one of many who came in to fight the Soviets?

#3) If Osama didn't take aid from the US then he's a hyprocrite in his Feb 12, 2003 message saying it was okay to fight along the Iraqi socialist.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2751019.stm

#4) When the Soviets decided to withdraw from Afghanistan in Feb 1989 he made fatwah against the US that same month.
http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm
If his band of merry men could take out the Soviets they could take out the United States. I'm baffled when socialist workers of the world aligned themselves with AQ. What would happen to the secularist if AQ set up theocracies around the world? Are they useful idiots for the AQ?

My enemy's enemy is my friend.

[Defiant]

Ed Koch has already endorsed Hillary for 2008.

[expatpat]

Excellent post!

[justshutupandtakeit]

Answers:
1- No. Our aid went primarily to the Northern Alliance forces not bin Laden.
2-He was important but one of several including the dude he offed right before 9/11.
3 - That was no question
4- Nor was that a question.

[TADSLOS]

Good stuff.

[longtermmemmory]

Liberals (now we use the new hidey term de jour "progressive") hate being exposed.

[longtermmemmory]

Has hitlary changed her israel position?

She stopped kissing arafats widow?

[Fledermaus]

Bowers had me until he wrote, "Thank God, George W. Bush knows this".

Does he really? Why do we then allow fighters to pour over the Iraqi border from Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia? Why are we not killing them as they cross before they get into safehouses?

I know much of the WOT is fought behind the scenes, but what is seen at it's face looks weak and unorganized. Why doesn't this administration fight the public perception part against the liars in the press better?

Let those described in this article and by Rove whine. I don't give a rats behind. I want to see a strong face on a strong military that is allowed to leave a large and strong footprint.

Don't mess with us or you will die. Some day, somewhere.

[Milligan]

Did my own research over this week end. Why I'm asking silly questions is that I have to go and visit my anti-war relatives back in Massachusetts. They think F911 is gospel. I just like to poke a whole in one of Moore's conspriacry theories.

They like to gnaw on this one..."The evil CIA funded Bin Laden!" After digging around the internet I came up with two articles. Osama was rabid anti-American way back during the 1980's. There were two groups fighting the Soviets in the Afghanistan. The Arab-Afghan and Afghan natives.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98115,00.html

http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists/binladen/2.htm


His fatwah's shows his intent to topple American infidels just like he did with the Soviet Union atheist.

This is bad news for my relatives they are practicing Wickins!

[justshutupandtakeit]

Here are their lies:

1 US funded Osama;
2 US provided Saddam with weapons;
3 Saddam not involved in terrorism or terrorist attacks on the US;
4 Bush allowed bin Laden's relatives to leave after 9/11 but it was Richard Clark who actually gave approval after FBI clearance;
5 Bush claimed Saddam had WMD and that was the reason to go to war. He actually gave many reasons which were repeats of charges made in the Regime Change in Iraq Act passed in late 90s and signed by Clinton.
6 Al Queda and Saddam were enemies. Fact was they had been working together since the early nineties. The Pharmaceutical factory Clinton blew up in the Sudan was a joint Al Queda/Iraqi operation.

There are tons of stuff here to clobber those dunces with have fun.

[Milligan]

How about the Afghanistan civil war 1989-1996. The Taliban came into power in 1996 with the blessing of the Clinton Administration.

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/howthe.htm

http://www.historyguy.com/afghan_civil_war.html

Far fetch?

[Christopher Lincoln]

Until I see real evidence of it, I will continue to disbelieve that Bin Ladin had anything to do with the Afghan resistance to Soviet aggression. I suggest that already in 1979, he was quite clear on who his real enemy was, and it was not the Soviet Union.

It isn't strange that AQ and the Taliban should have taken credit, after the fact, for driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan; the communists themselves had used that line many times, with great success.

[spintreebob]

They just want to shoot them in the shoulder."
I don't think they would even go that far.

Liberals would do it... with a tranquilizer dart filled with ritalin... After all, the terrorists just have ADD.