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Toyota to build 100,000 vehicles per year in Ontario (Americans too illiterate to train)
CBC ^ | July 3, 2005 | STEVE ERWIN

Posted on 07/03/2005 3:25:54 PM PDT by ItsJeff

WOODSTOCK, Ont. (CP) - Ontario workers are well-trained.

That simple explanation was cited as a main reason why Toyota turned its back on hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies offered from several American states in favour of building a second Ontario plant.

Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train - helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled workforce in Cambridge.

"The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, whose members will see increased business with the new plant.

Acknowledging it was the "worst-kept secret" throughout Ontario's automotive industry, Toyota confirmed months of speculation Thursday by announcing plans to build a 1,300-worker factory in the southwestern Ontario city.

"Welcome to Woodstock - that's something I've been waiting a long time to say," Ray Tanguay, president of Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada, told hundreds gathered at a high school gymnasium.

The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually.

The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover research, training and infrastructure costs.

Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.

He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment.

"The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said.

In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

"Most people don't think of our health-care system as being a competitive advantage," he said.

Tanguay said Toyota's decision on where to build its seventh North American plant was "not only about money."

"It's about being in the right place," he said, noting the company can rely on the expertise of experienced Cambridge workers to help get Woodstock up and running.

Premier Dalton McGuinty said the money the province and Ottawa are pledging for the project is well-spent. His government has committed $400 million, including the latest Toyota package, to the province's auto sector, which helped finance $5-billion worth of industry projects.

"I think that's a great investment that will more than pay for itself in terms of new jobs and new economic returns," McGuinty said.

The provincial funds for the auto sector were drawn from a fund set up to attract investments specifically in that industry. McGuinty said no similar industry funds are being planned for other sectors, but added the province wants to attract biotechnology companies - those working on multibillion-dollar advanced medical research.

"What we have done for auto we would like to be able to do for biotech," he said. "That's where we're lending some real focus to at the present time."

Similarly, Emmerson said Ottawa is looking to help out industries that create "clusters" of jobs around them - such as in aerospace, shipbuilding, telecommunications and forestry - where supply bases build around a large manufacturer.

© The Canadian Press, 2005


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: automakers; manufacturing; toyota; workforce
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1 posted on 07/03/2005 3:25:55 PM PDT by ItsJeff
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To: ItsJeff

Or did Canada offer Toyota a bigger bribe?


2 posted on 07/03/2005 3:26:41 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

More like Toyota is getting fed up with the UAW screwing with their NUMMI plant in California.


3 posted on 07/03/2005 3:27:43 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ItsJeff

It's not really that surpising.


4 posted on 07/03/2005 3:27:48 PM PDT by MarkeyD (I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: Spktyr

I'm sure that didn't help. But I'm still betting on the bigger bribe :)


5 posted on 07/03/2005 3:28:39 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ItsJeff
...Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment.

Oh, Lord.

6 posted on 07/03/2005 3:29:38 PM PDT by ItsJeff
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To: ItsJeff

The unions sent another plant packing.


7 posted on 07/03/2005 3:29:39 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: ItsJeff

Who is illiterate in the South?


8 posted on 07/03/2005 3:31:22 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: ItsJeff

I hope that the "too illiterate" Americans have enough sense NOT to buy a Toyota vehicle.


9 posted on 07/03/2005 3:31:23 PM PDT by GOPologist ("On some days you may feel like a dog; on other days you may feel like a hydrant!")
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To: ItsJeff
"The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said.

...and on another thread; American teachers are mewling for a generous salary increase.

10 posted on 07/03/2005 3:32:30 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and proud of it!)
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To: ItsJeff

Remember, these plants are opening up in the middle of *nowhere* in these states. The population is decidedly rural and many people in the area drop out at the 6th grade or earlier.

They would have the same difficulty if they set up in downtown Detroit. The local workforce *is* illiterate.


11 posted on 07/03/2005 3:33:34 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
More like Toyota is getting fed up with the UAW screwing with their NUMMI plant in California.

From my limited experience with our Canadian operations – Canada has *much* more liberal labor laws than the U.S. I personally wouldn’t think you’d run to Canada for that reason.

12 posted on 07/03/2005 3:37:00 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: ItsJeff

Too illiterate? Canada must have more literate illegal aliens.


13 posted on 07/03/2005 3:37:16 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: GOPologist

" I hope that the "too illiterate" Americans have enough sense NOT to buy a Toyota vehicle."

How the hell can you blame Toyota ? These " illiterate " Americans could get their shi- together if they had the desire/ambition . Even dyslexics can get help for chrissakes .


14 posted on 07/03/2005 3:37:41 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: ItsJeff

someone ought to send a copy of that to every union school in the u.s.


15 posted on 07/03/2005 3:39:43 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Spktyr

The will find out the CAW (Canadian Auto Workers Union) is more corrupt and thug filled than the UAW.


16 posted on 07/03/2005 3:39:55 PM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: Conservatrix
Who is illiterate in the South?

Your average red neck, hip-hop, Latino American worker.

17 posted on 07/03/2005 3:40:04 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: GOPologist

"I hope that the "too illiterate" Americans have enough sense NOT to buy a Toyota vehicle."

Conversely, as a literate American I have no problem with buying a Toyota.


18 posted on 07/03/2005 3:40:57 PM PDT by Moral Hazard (I question the bargaining power of the Union of the Snake.)
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To: ItsJeff

Toyota doesn't hire 'illiterate' workers. They are very demanding and selective. I imagine the same is true for Honda. What a load of Canadian crap.


19 posted on 07/03/2005 3:41:15 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: hgro

Yes, but when Toyota got the NUMMI plant from GM, the UAW was already there. Want to bet that the CAW isn't in this plant? (Yet.)


20 posted on 07/03/2005 3:42:32 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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